heelfan exposed?

10/25/2010 8:15:26 AM

What is it with City fans and getting a tattoo before it happens. Remember the guy who got the UEFA Champions League tattoo last year.

10/25/2010 8:26:15 AM

I can't believe that's true


that shit looks like a shop if I ever saw one

[Edited on October 25, 2010 at 8:54 AM. Reason : no one is that stupid... are they?]

10/25/2010 8:53:57 AM

yeah I was thinking... that's a damn good tattoo artist

10/25/2010 9:22:09 AM

If it is shopped, it shows people's views of City fans when they read it and think someone would do that.

10/25/2010 9:35:58 AM

there's just something not right about it


like somebody in their art dept just learned how to use the multiply filter

10/25/2010 9:53:19 AM

I believe it.

10/25/2010 11:55:52 AM

It's definitely a shop making fun of the original idiot with the CL tattoo.

Funny indeed.

10/25/2010 8:23:07 PM

lol gamecast:

Quote :

"Park looks for Carrick but pace is not really the Englishman's forte. In fact, I'm struggling to remember what is..."

haha for real. playing carrick is like having a handicap...i dont understand how he continues to play

10/26/2010 3:19:04 PM

chicharito in the 90th to win

10/26/2010 4:56:06 PM

yeah, that was a pretty nice little goal

10/26/2010 5:02:04 PM

Blackburn is laying it on against Chelsea atm.

Up 1-0. Complete control of the first 25 minutes.

10/30/2010 10:25:19 AM

1-1 Blackburn & Chelsea

Dempsey has 2 goals and Fulham is up 2-0 on Wigan

10/30/2010 11:02:29 AM

Was there ever a doubt Blackburn would give it up?

10/30/2010 12:14:57 PM

Both Chelsea and Arsenal grab late winners. No surprise that they won, but I didn't think it would be as difficult as it was.

10/30/2010 12:19:41 PM

Lol, City.

10/30/2010 12:34:10 PM

Yeah, I hoped Tevez enjoyed his vacation.

10/30/2010 12:38:05 PM

fucking time warner cable

channels weren't working, said I needed to replace the box, which I did and now my box is "not authorized for service"

of course this shit had to go down on Saturday morning... GRRRRRR

10/30/2010 1:02:21 PM

That sucks. I'm fed up with TWC and all I use them for is internet.

10/30/2010 1:15:42 PM

Yeah, I was told that satellite has serious issues in our apt complex so I pretty much had no choice. I'm dropping this shit the first chance I get.

How's the United game going?

10/30/2010 1:17:15 PM

1-0 United on a Vidic header from Nani.

10/30/2010 1:17:46 PM

from the commentary, sounds like it's a pretty entertaining game

10/30/2010 1:18:19 PM

Quote :

"That sucks. I'm fed up with TWC and all I use them for is internet."

this.

10/30/2010 1:23:36 PM

Should have been a penalty anyway. Fuck off, Spurs...

[Edited on October 30, 2010 at 2:15 PM. Reason : lol, that was awesome... there was no free kick genius.]

10/30/2010 2:14:17 PM

ahahahahahha Gomes you fucking idiot

10/30/2010 2:16:51 PM

^
What happened?

10/30/2010 2:35:19 PM

gomes put down the ball like it was a free kick for a handball on nani, but the ref never called it, so nani kicked the ball in. really dumb move by gomes.

10/30/2010 3:42:10 PM

ill have to see this on replay, but basically from what i read what happened on the play fletcher summed it up the best by what youre supposed to do (in nani's position)

"It's one of those where nobody really knows what's happened, but Nani has no option other than to put the ball in the net. He's got the opportunity to score - he's got to score. We are always told to play to the whistle.''

10/30/2010 5:59:02 PM

I'd like to also note that Nani has been killing it lately. Giggs was spot on

[Edited on October 30, 2010 at 6:51 PM. Reason : pretty much all season. leads epl in assists and he is a scoring threat]

10/30/2010 6:50:42 PM

maxi.

10/31/2010 3:20:02 PM

finally saw the Nani goal and it's a poor decision from Clattenburg (just like it was an equally poor decision when Liverpool scored that goal against Sunderland, so I'm not accused of being biased)

There's an obvious Nani handball when he falls over and it looks as though Clattenburg's playing an advantage, which is ridiculous as there's obviously no advantage in your own penalty area. And when Gomes puts the ball down and Nani comes over top of it... surely the advantage is gone and you'd go back and award the free kick, just like they do when the advantage 'never materializes' at midfield.

This whole "Nani is a cheat" crap is stupid because you can't blame him for anything... it's just another example of a referee being intimidated at OT and making a bad call. And also, Gomes should have made sure of the free kick vs. advantage situation before he put the ball down like that

11/1/2010 8:12:42 AM

It was not a bad call.

Quote :

"which is ridiculous as there's obviously no advantage in your own penalty area."

That is patently false. There are no rules about not being able to apply advantage in your own box.

Nani committed a handball on the ground. Gomes restored Spurs' advantage by picking up the ball. There was no way for Nani to have any more of an advantage by playing the ball with his hands while on the ground with it. He couldn't play it to feet. As soon as the ball was picked up by Gomes, Spurs had the run of play returned to them and play should have carried on.


Gomes is an absolute moron for not just booting it up the field or even tossing it out to one of his players. Not a refereeing mistake at all. Gomes is just a moron.

11/1/2010 9:01:08 AM

Never said there were rules regarding advantage but it was pretty obvious there was no advantage in that particular situation to have Gomes take the free kick or to continue on with play. Clattenburg obviously didn't do a good enough job making the play-on advantage call clearer to Gomes and Spurs. It wasn't clear to anybody - it's not like Nani knew the situation and instinctively went to the ball and scored, he had to double and triple check with the referee as to if he could play the ball or not.

That's the referee's fault for not making his decision of advantage (whether that was the right call to do so or not) clearer to the players.

Goalkeepers always pick up the ball and carry it to a free kick spot, goal kick, etc. Gomes picking the ball up and placing it down has nothing to do with "restoring advantage."


P.S. - Nani should have been carded for the hand ball anyways so a play-on call was the wrong choice to begin with.

[Edited on November 1, 2010 at 9:21 AM. Reason : intentional hand ball]

11/1/2010 9:17:06 AM

I want you to explain to me how the goalkeeper taking possession of the ball is not a clearly defined instance of advantage changing between teams.

It also doesn't matter that he put it down. Him putting it down in front of himself does not remove the fact that he had possession of it, that his objective was to move the ball forward, and that Spurs had the advantage.

Furthermore, Nani was hauled down in the box and should have been handed a penalty. He wasn't, so he played the ball with his hands. No way in hell any ref worth his salt would give him a card for that, especially when the ball was immediately recovered by the defense (Gomes).



On top of all that, the adage is "play to the whistle" for a reason. Gomes should have been trying to get that ball the fuck out of there. Instead, he's an idiot and he got burned for it.

11/1/2010 9:50:32 AM

Quote :

"I want you to explain to me how the goalkeeper taking possession of the ball is not a clearly defined instance of advantage changing between teams. "

Please, that happens all the time. A cross comes in, the goalie catches it, but a foul is called on one of the forwards off the ball or wherever. There's no advantage to holding the ball at your six yard box or to have a free kick there so you regularly see the free kick taken instead of the goalie retaining possession. Gomes didn't think there was an advantage so he put the ball down for the (obvious to everybody but Clattenburg and United fans) free kick situation.

A goalkeeper getting possession of the ball does not eliminate the foul that happened just before. Clattenburg's error was not clearly signaling he was going to play on. When it was unclear to everybody what the call was, he should have done so but instead, just stood there with his arms to his side. If it was all Gomes' fault, why did his linesman feel the need to flag him over for a consult?

Quote :

"He wasn't, so he played the ball with his hands. "

Of course. The only natural reaction to getting fouled and not getting the call is to grab the ball with your hand.

11/1/2010 10:08:29 AM

The tendency in football at the moment is that as long as you’re not a prostitute shagger then it’s OK, it’s no big deal.

Wayne’s not very well and it’s a dirty thing for his wife to know he had relations with a prostitute. He was seeing the same bird for seven months.


I could understand that you wear dark glasses at night time when you do open-heart surgery and save lives, but not if you’re a footballer.



http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/2010/11/01/tottenhams-benoit-assou-ekotto-rips-into-dirty-prostitute-shagger-rooney

11/1/2010 11:35:13 AM

I may have a new favorite Premier League player. Dude is real as shit.

11/1/2010 3:03:06 PM

jesus aimorris, you would argue that 2 + 2 equaled 4.


Nani grabbed the ball because he got pulled back, and anyone who was fouled so egregiously would expect to be given a PK in that sense. I'm not saying it was right for him to handle the ball, but he thought play had stopped, and it should have stopped.


You don't get advantage AND free kick. It's one or the other. Tottenham gained the advantage as soon as Gomes picked up the ball. His intent was to play it forward. What is so difficult about that for you to understand?


Clattenburg indicated that play should go on by not blowing a whistle to stop play. He even left the scene of the offense indicating that he did not consider anything up until that point to be an offense. There is no clearer indication of "play on" than that.

Did not blow the whistle.

Did not raise his arms to indicate advantage because there was no need to, as Gomes clearly had possession of the ball after United appealed for a PK.


Even if I wanted to play devil's advocate - Gomes moved the ball a clear 10 yards away from the spot of the "foul" and expected to be given a free kick after he had already been granted advantage. It does NOT work that way.




anyway, cliff's notes:


aimorris mad again

11/1/2010 5:20:24 PM

Quote :

"Nani grabbed the ball because he got pulled back, and anyone who was fouled so egregiously would expect to be given a PK in that sense. I'm not saying it was right for him to handle the ball, but he thought play had stopped, and it should have stopped."

More United bias. In no way was Nani "fouled egregiously." If anything, it was a dive.

Quote :

"Clattenburg indicated that play should go on by not blowing a whistle to stop play. He even left the scene of the offense indicating that he did not consider anything up until that point to be an offense. There is no clearer indication of "play on" than that."

Leaving the scene of the offense? Do referees run up to each foul every time they spot one? Wouldn't they be better suited at midfield where a free kick or punt would end up? Ridiculous argument.

Quote :

"Did not raise his arms to indicate advantage because there was no need to, as Gomes clearly had possession of the ball after United appealed for a PK."

Again, you're mistaking possession for advantage, they are not the same thing. There was obviously a NEED to indicate advantage because it was not clear. A referee can't just assume there will be an advantage when the party it's intended for is not aware they're getting one.

Quote :

"Even if I wanted to play devil's advocate - Gomes moved the ball a clear 10 yards away from the spot of the "foul" and expected to be given a free kick after he had already been granted advantage. It does NOT work that way."

Players rarely take free kicks, offsides, throw-ins, etc. at the exact spot they occurred, that's irrelevant.

You say I'll argue anything but you will defend anything that benefits United. You're honestly telling me that if this happened against United, you'd be perfectly okay with how it went down? I seriously doubt it. And would you have been upset if Clattenburg realizes what happened after and goes back to award the free kick instead of letting the goal stand? I doubt it - because it's fair and in line with the spirit of the game. Nani obviously committed unsporting behavior, wasn't penalized, and actually benefited from doing so in the long run because of the referee's carelessness.

I hesitated to argue this because I knew I'd get this reaction. Spurs were down and the game was over so I'm not complaining about United getting the three points. It's just referee decisions like his annoy me and especially when somebody like Nani, who is a despicable little cheat and dives all over the place, gets a goal when he didn't deserve one. And then of course he runs around celebrating like he's just scored the goal of the year. I also enjoyed Ferdinand in the referee-linesman meeting afterward, after Spurs players were forced to leave the area.

[Edited on November 1, 2010 at 7:27 PM. Reason : .]

11/1/2010 7:24:27 PM

I can't tell if kiljadn is trolling right now or not, but I definitely agree with aimorris on this one.

First of all, Gomes IS stupid and Nani didn't really do anything wrong. It was mostly a referee error. Let's get that out of the way first of all. But here's my view of the events...

Nani has a through ball chipped to him. Gets his shirt tugged a little bit (this is where you want a penalty), takes like 4 more steps, then decides he wants to go down. This never ever gets called. If he had gone down right when his shirt got pulled and made it look convincing he might have gotten the penalty. But taking 4 steps after contact and then going down by yourself will never earn you a penalty. He then puts his hand on the ball and that's when play should stop, for a handball. I'm sure with all the penalty shouts and the crowd noise it must have been deafening in there and it's hard to fault Gomes for thinking that there probably was a whistle at some point. But like kiljadn said, the referee never made any indication of advantage like kiljadn said. Advantage here would be retarded anyway because like aimorris said, there's not really much of an advantage in your own box except for maybe if Gomes is looking for a quick throw or kick off a corner or something, but that's not the case. Anyway, Gomes picks the ball up and moves it forward and then sets it down for a free kick that he obviously thought was the case. Nani comes up and scores it after realizing it's not actually a free kick.

So, what should have happened was Clattenberg should have gone back and awarded a free kick on about the 6 yard box for Spurs. In soccer, you can always go back and change the call to the right call before play restarts and that's what should have happened. It's like aimorris said, what happened was not in line with the spirit of the game and that's one of the best things about soccer in my opinion is that there is no black and white on a lot of things pertaining to the rules. It's all up to interpretation. That's also one of the drawbacks though. The referee still had a chance to make it right even after the goal was scored but like aimorris said was probably intimidated by being at OT into making a pro-United decision.

Like I said, I think there's a chance that kiljadn is trolling on this one, but FWIW I agree with aimorris on pretty much everything he said and I hope that if kiljadn isn't trolling he can roll back the ManU blinders and see this as the extremely fortuitous situation that it is.

11/1/2010 8:57:46 PM

To me it's pretty obvious that everyone involved in the debacle is a douchebag.

Clattenberg, Gomes, and more than anyone, Nani, for being a little bitch douchebag.

This is not for discussion.

11/1/2010 9:10:07 PM

Anyone see Blackpool v WBA today? Man Blackpool almost gave that one away. WBA down 2 men, finally Blackpool goes up 2-0 and then give up a goal with 5 minutes left in regular time. They have another half dozen chances to put it away before the whistle blows and they miss them all horribly. Credit to WBA, they definitely deserve what they've accomplished this season. If they had all 10 in the field I think they would have at least come away with a point with the way Blackpool looked in the second half.

11/1/2010 9:15:58 PM

Seriously you guys. The referee's decision was to allow play to go on when Gomes picked up the ball. It's not hard to understand that.



Anything that happened after that is down to Gomes being an absolute moron.



Watch the clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiPG3qvZ8Kw

I watched it at least 20 times yesterday. There is no clearer indication that the referee wants play to continue than him ignoring all pleas for a foul - handball, pk, whatever - than him walking away and not blowing the whistle. NONE. If the referee does not believe play should be stopped, then he does nothing - he does not blow his whistle, he does not raise his arms, he does not wave a flag. Point blank, period. Clattenburg did not stop play because Tottenham had the ball. Why would he stop play to give them back the ball they already had?



Furthermore, you can debate your opinion of it all you want, but I am vindicated in being right by two things:

1. The goal stands

2. http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2010/10/30/2191145/comment-step-by-step-guide-to-nanis-controversial-but-legal

11/2/2010 8:23:06 AM

^^ the header to set up the WBA goal at the end was so fucking money. then again the actual goal by mulumbu wasn't too bad either...

11/2/2010 8:32:16 AM

Quote :

"Seriously you guys. The referee's decision was to allow play to go on when Gomes picked up the ball. It's not hard to understand that."

Of course it's easy to understand that after the fact, the argument is that it was stupid.

It's the poor decision of a) giving "advantage" where there clearly was none b) not making it clear to Gomes there was an advantage and c) letting the goal stand after the advantage was NEVER REALIZED. (and for me, d) should have booked Nani for the hand ball but whatever)

You can watch it 100 times and read all the opinions on goal.com all you want... it doesn't change the fact that a player deliberately grabbed the ball on the ground and scored a goal directly because of it. That's shit refereeing no matter what the other circumstances are.

11/2/2010 9:23:55 AM

JTMONEYNCSU and kiljadn, do you guys think SAF replaces Nani with Obertan or Park this weekend vs Wolves? After yesterday, I would love to see Obertan get the nod.

11/3/2010 1:01:21 PM

Stu Holden getting the start vs Spurs today

11/6/2010 8:47:39 AM

2-0 Bolton in the 74th.

Bad display from Spurs so far after the win over Inter mid week.

11/6/2010 10:18:04 AM

It's nearly to be expected at this point. They never play well coming off of a CL week.

11/6/2010 10:19:09 AM

3-0 after the penalty.

11/6/2010 10:19:30 AM