anybody having issues with click2pay on stars? i tried to put in 10 bucks and its saying declined. never had a problem with it before

10/1/2009 10:47:50 PM

Quote :

"also: anyone know how to do with staking issues regarding taxes? i.e. if i'm staked for a 50/50 split of profits - buyins, i shouldn't have to pay tax on my whole win right? would i need a contract to verify to the irs that i didn't earn all my winnings in revenue? will they try to tax me on the full amount, then try to tax my staker as well?"

essentially you need a written contract. if you browse 2p2 theres an excellent example of such a contract that was fairly recently discussed in the MTT Community area.

10/2/2009 10:06:44 PM

^urname

10/3/2009 4:15:09 AM

wat...my name on 2p2

slowcheetah1

10/3/2009 1:14:02 PM

how do you guys deal with your anger when you take bad beats?

10/3/2009 8:32:42 PM

swear at my gf

10/3/2009 9:16:59 PM

alcoholism

10/3/2009 9:45:49 PM

pocket jacks ( Diamond and spades )... i raise, 4 other people call

flop turns a 2 of spades, 6 of diamonds, jack of clubs.... i check, 2nd person raises, everyone calls.

turn..... 9 of diamonds, i raise30% of the pot. One person calls, everyone else folds

river... 10 of diamonds, i raise and the other person insta raises


.... now, im thinking, what are the odds of him hitting his flush on the river.... very slim, so i call.


the son of a bitch turns over a 2, 7 of diamonds.

i mean... who in the fuck calls and raises with a fucking 2, 7 ... and then hits there flush on the fucking river
WTF

fucking bull shit

[Edited on October 3, 2009 at 10:12 PM. Reason : x]

10/3/2009 10:11:30 PM

Quote :

" i raise30% of the pot "

Raise more. You need to make it a mistake for him to draw to that flush, and only raising 30% is only making him make a marginal call instead of a bad call if you raise more.

10/4/2009 10:41:26 AM

Yeah, raise 2/3.

10/4/2009 3:45:33 PM

Quote :

"I'm talking about live play. for sure online it's no issue."

Can't you just give the backer cash?

10/4/2009 3:54:52 PM

Kinda depends -- for example my backer is in Washington state. So exchanging cash is a pain in the ass since it has to be Western Union etc.

10/4/2009 4:45:46 PM

can you account for taxes and then give 50% of the net?

10/5/2009 8:59:31 AM

yea, but if i just give him cash then irs might try to tax me on the whole winnings. I don't want to pay 100% of the tax for 50 of the take. edit: i figured a contract would work, but i wasn't sure if the irs would try to double tax us, meaning tax me on the win, then him on the 50% take he earns.

the jacks hand...bet the flop dude. 65-80% on turn. but yea, i think checking the flop after you flop a set with the iniative is one of the softest plays in all of poker.

[Edited on October 5, 2009 at 4:22 PM. Reason : dxs]

10/5/2009 4:20:51 PM

Quote :

"if i just give him cash then irs might try to tax me on the whole winnings"

How will they have any knowledge of your winnings?

10/5/2009 6:19:06 PM

If its live they give you tax forms on the spot.

10/5/2009 7:43:15 PM

Why not give backer 1/2 of the net winnings after taxes? Odds are the backer is in a higher incremental tax bracket anyway.

10/5/2009 8:27:52 PM

Quote :

"If its live they give you tax forms on the spot. "

10/6/2009 9:03:07 AM

Quote :

"If its live they give you tax forms on the spot. "

10/6/2009 9:03:07 AM

What difference does it make if you get a 1099 or W-2G on the spot? This is what I would do...

1. Figure your income tax on income without winnings.
2. Figure your income tax on income with winnings.
3. Subtract Line 1 from Line 2. This is the net taxes paid on winnings.
4. (Winnings - net taxes) / 2 = each persons share of winnings.

Seems like a win/win to me.

10/6/2009 2:24:19 PM

i'd say probably better to have a contract in case you get audited and they look at the signed tax forms from the live event showing you made x amount.

10/6/2009 2:54:38 PM

Quote :

"If its live they give you tax forms on the spot."

Durrrrrrrrrrr, I was thinking cash games for some reason.

10/6/2009 6:21:22 PM

Had this happen tonight in an Omaha Freeroll. I was not amused.

10/6/2009 10:50:03 PM

You still see the ads?

10/7/2009 11:38:20 AM

joke

Full Tilt Poker Game #15245004647: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (111791943), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 11:50:19 ET - 2009/10/10
Seat 1: MOOJI2 (2,300)
Seat 2: SeanR87 (5,669)
Seat 3: squasheur (944)
Seat 5: nikedunklowpro (1,678)
Seat 6: artmcclin (530)
Seat 7: metheny30 (2,379)
artmcclin posts the small blind of 80
metheny30 posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Ad Ah]
MOOJI2 raises to 480
SeanR87 folds
squasheur folds
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro calls 480
artmcclin folds
metheny30 folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc 9d 8s]
MOOJI2 bets 1,820, and is all in
nikedunklowpro calls 1,198, and is all in
MOOJI2 shows [Ac Tc]
nikedunklowpro shows [Ad Ah]
Uncalled bet of 622 returned to MOOJI2
*** TURN *** [Kc 9d 8s] [Jh]
*** RIVER *** [Kc 9d 8s Jh] [7s]
MOOJI2 shows a straight, Jack high
nikedunklowpro shows a pair of Aces
MOOJI2 wins the pot (3,596) with a straight, Jack high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,596 | Rake 0
Board: [Kc 9d 8s Jh 7s]
Seat 1: MOOJI2 showed [Ac Tc] and won (3,596) with a straight, Jack high

10/10/2009 11:55:16 AM

Quote :

"Seat 5: nikedunklowpro (1,678)"

I think with a stack that small I'd go ahead and push pre. It would suck if he decided to check fold the flop.

10/10/2009 12:18:44 PM

yeah but usually aggressive players are going to c-bet there no matter what hits the flop, and he would've been pot committed after that, he had just the right amount of chips to where I thought he might lay his hand down if I shoved pre, if he had maybe 300 more or 300 less I probably would've shoved

[Edited on October 10, 2009 at 1:07 PM. Reason : /]

10/10/2009 1:06:10 PM

yea, that's a good point from david. he's pretty much getting 2:1 on a call anyway, so you might as well shove.

btw: I know most of you that actually post don't know me, but i'm selling action for the wsopc tahoe if anyone is interested. I know some lurkers on here might be. just pm if you wanna hop on the money train!

[Edited on October 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM. Reason : heu]

10/10/2009 4:23:30 PM

Yeh anything other than the 10000% standard shove there is criminal.

In theory his calling range with your stack should be identical between 3x-ing or shoving.

10/10/2009 6:58:28 PM

^^ and if anything maybe a bit wider calling range for a shove bc it looks weaker.

10/10/2009 6:59:07 PM

Flopped an underset

10/11/2009 6:53:54 PM

pocket aces

i move all in.

four people call.... each with JJ, QQ, AK, and AQ



the flop shows a J Q 3

turn shows a K

river shows a 4





WTF

10/11/2009 9:30:01 PM

Decided to dick around at 50nl HU tonight for fun. Ha...fun indeed -

http://www.holdemmanager.net
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Poker Stars Game#33931547957

mattman18 ($39.20)
slowcheetah1 ($80.70)

slowcheetah1 posts (SB) $0.25
mattman18 posts (BB) $0.50

Dealt to slowcheetah1 2d 2c
slowcheetah1 raises to $1.50
mattman18 raises to $2.50
slowcheetah1 calls $1
FLOP ($5) 2s Kc 9d
mattman18 bets $1
slowcheetah1 calls $1
TURN ($7) 2s Kc 9d Ks
mattman18 bets $0.50
slowcheetah1 raises to $3.75
mattman18 raises to $7
slowcheetah1 raises to $46
mattman18 calls $28.70 (AI)
RIVER ($78.40) 2s Kc 9d Ks 9s
mattman18 shows Kd As
(Pre 47%, Flop 1.9%, Turn 15.9%)

slowcheetah1 shows 2d 2c
(Pre 53%, Flop 98.1%, Turn 84.1%)

mattman18 wins $77.90

----

http://www.holdemmanager.net
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Poker Stars Game#33931586823

slowcheetah1 ($64.30)
WeedWill420 ($64.65)

WeedWill420 posts (SB) $0.25
slowcheetah1 posts (BB) $0.50

Dealt to slowcheetah1 2s As
WeedWill420 raises to $1
slowcheetah1 raises to $3.50
WeedWill420 calls $2.50
FLOP ($7) Jc Ad 2c
slowcheetah1 checks
WeedWill420 bets $4
slowcheetah1 raises to $13.75
WeedWill420 raises to $61.15 (AI)
slowcheetah1 calls $47.05 (AI)
TURN ($128) Jc Ad 2c Kd
RIVER ($128) Jc Ad 2c Kd 9d
WeedWill420 shows Ah Kc
(Pre 69%, Flop 34.3%, Turn 95.5%)

slowcheetah1 shows 2s As
(Pre 31%, Flop 65.7%, Turn 4.5%)

WeedWill420 wins $128

10/12/2009 3:19:37 AM

PokerStars Game #33938947572: Tournament #203071254, $5.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2009/10/12 9:36:33 ET
Table '203071254 1' 10-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: grozovig (1525 in chips)
Seat 2: kulle85 (2130 in chips)
Seat 6: josefalcon (1955 in chips)
Seat 8: dzags18 (3270 in chips)
Seat 9: Solades (3425 in chips)
Seat 10: TheUkrStar (2695 in chips)
grozovig: posts the ante 60
kulle85: posts the ante 60
josefalcon: posts the ante 60
dzags18: posts the ante 60
Solades: posts the ante 60
TheUkrStar: posts the ante 60
Solades: posts small blind 300
TheUkrStar: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dzags18 [Ac 9s]
grozovig: folds
kulle85: folds
josefalcon: folds
dzags18: raises 600 to 1200
Solades: calls 900
TheUkrStar: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qs 3s Ah]
Solades: checks
dzags18: bets 2010 and is all-in
Solades: calls 2010
*** TURN *** [Qs 3s Ah] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 3s Ah Ks] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Solades: shows [Js Th] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
dzags18: shows [Ac 9s] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
Solades collected 7380 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7380 | Rake 0
Board [Qs 3s Ah Ks 9d]
Seat 1: grozovig folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: kulle85 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: josefalcon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: dzags18 (button) showed [Ac 9s] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 9: Solades (small blind) showed [Js Th] and won (7380) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 10: TheUkrStar (big blind) folded before Flop


Keep in mind we had 6 left in a double or nothing in which the top 5 cash. How do you make that call? I mean it wasn't the smartest play on my part, he could have had AJ or something, but how do you call that with a gutshot.

[Edited on October 12, 2009 at 9:40 AM. Reason : a]

10/12/2009 9:40:31 AM

A buddy of mine is currently 2/17 in the Stars daily 80k

[Edited on October 14, 2009 at 9:12 PM. Reason : make that chiplead. anyone in it?]

10/14/2009 9:11:41 PM

^^ You really should just push in that scenario.

10/15/2009 11:41:52 AM

^I was trying to play somewhat conservatively. I didn't want to get in a big fight with the sb if he had a loaded hand. I was just trying to steal and didn't intend to get too into the hand, until the flop when I was pretty positive I was well ahead.

10/15/2009 11:45:41 AM

I guess if its a double or nothing I can kind of see that mentality.

10/15/2009 11:49:04 AM

So I finished 3rd in a PLO8 MTT tonight and was like -- lets try so PLO8 cash!

First hand -

PokerStars Game #34178680648: Omaha Hi/Lo Limit ($5/$10 USD) - 2009/10/18 4:56:31 ET
Table 'Kleopatra VI' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: azeri1977 ($460 in chips)
Seat 2: PizzaCalzone ($283 in chips)
Seat 3: 77spades77 ($1903.50 in chips)
Seat 4: DR. YHVH ($57 in chips)
Seat 6: slowcheetah1 ($1000 in chips)
DR. YHVH: posts small blind $2
slowcheetah1: posts big blind $5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to slowcheetah1 [Kc 3s Kd 3d]
azeri1977: raises $5 to $10
PizzaCalzone: folds
77spades77: folds
DR. YHVH: raises $5 to $15
slowcheetah1 said, "anl"
slowcheetah1: calls $10
azeri1977: raises $5 to $20
Betting is capped
DR. YHVH: calls $5
slowcheetah1: calls $5
*** FLOP *** [8c Kh 5h]
DR. YHVH: bets $5
slowcheetah1: raises $5 to $10
azeri1977: calls $10
DR. YHVH: raises $5 to $15
slowcheetah1: raises $5 to $20
Betting is capped
azeri1977: calls $10
DR. YHVH: calls $5
*** TURN *** [8c Kh 5h] [2d]
DR. YHVH: bets $10
slowcheetah1: raises $10 to $20
azeri1977: raises $10 to $30
DR. YHVH: calls $7 and is all-in
Allingoodfun joins the table at seat #5
slowcheetah1: raises $10 to $40
Betting is capped
azeri1977: calls $10
*** RIVER *** [8c Kh 5h 2d] [4h]
slowcheetah1: checks
azeri1977: bets $10
slowcheetah1: calls $10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
azeri1977: shows [6h As Ks 3c] (HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 5,4,3,2,A)
slowcheetah1: mucks hand
azeri1977 collected $33 from side pot
azeri1977 collected $33 from side pot
DR. YHVH: mucks hand
azeri1977 collected $84.50 from main pot
azeri1977 collected $84.50 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $237 Main pot $169. Side pot $66. | Rake $2
Board [8c Kh 5h 2d 4h]
Seat 1: azeri1977 showed [6h As Ks 3c] and won ($235) with HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 5,4,3,2,A
Seat 2: PizzaCalzone folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 77spades77 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: DR. YHVH (small blind) mucked [6d 6s Qc Ad]
Seat 6: slowcheetah1 (big blind) mucked [Kc 3s Kd 3d]

[Edited on October 18, 2009 at 5:03 AM. Reason : sp.]

10/18/2009 5:02:47 AM

I get all my chips in as 80% favorite to triple up with 2 cards to go...

hmmm I wonder what will happen...

Full Tilt Poker Game #15454338651: $8 + $0.80 Tournament (113284739), Table 20 - 150/300 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:46:11 ET - 2009/10/19
Seat 1: nikedunklowpro (5,961)
Seat 2: VIPoker (6,458)
Seat 4: FRHEAD13 (5,857)
Seat 5: grospkr01 (16,365)
Seat 6: guiliness (7,537)
Seat 7: dmbowler (4,568)
Seat 8: sherryg (11,210)
Seat 9: DonkeyPunchYa (6,135)
nikedunklowpro antes 25
VIPoker antes 25
FRHEAD13 antes 25
grospkr01 antes 25
guiliness antes 25
dmbowler antes 25
sherryg antes 25
DonkeyPunchYa antes 25
grospkr01 posts the small blind of 150
guiliness posts the big blind of 300
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nikedunklowpro [Td Jd]
dmbowler folds
sherryg folds
DonkeyPunchYa has 15 seconds left to act
DonkeyPunchYa folds
nikedunklowpro raises to 749
VIPoker folds
FRHEAD13 folds
grospkr01 calls 599
guiliness calls 449
*** FLOP *** [Kh Jh Jc]
grospkr01 has 15 seconds left to act
grospkr01 bets 900
guiliness has 15 seconds left to act
guiliness raises to 1,800
nikedunklowpro has 15 seconds left to act
nikedunklowpro raises to 5,187, and is all in
grospkr01 calls 4,287
guiliness has 15 seconds left to act
guiliness raises to 6,763, and is all in
grospkr01 calls 1,576
guiliness shows [6h 7h]
nikedunklowpro shows [Td Jd]
grospkr01 shows [Ah 4h]
*** TURN *** [Kh Jh Jc] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Kh Jh Jc 6d] [8h]
guiliness shows a flush, King high
grospkr01 shows a flush, Ace high
grospkr01 wins the side pot (3,152) with a flush, Ace high
nikedunklowpro shows three of a kind, Jacks
grospkr01 wins the main pot (18,008) with a flush, Ace high

10/19/2009 11:02:00 PM

Quote :

"So I finished 3rd in a PLO8 MTT tonight and was like -- lets try so PLO8 cash!"

You realize you were playing limit, right?

10/20/2009 10:25:47 AM

goddamn that omaha hand was played terribly

10/20/2009 10:30:51 AM

Yeh it was limit -- w/e I was drunk lol

And what's played so bad about the hand (yes spewwy pre)...but I think f/t/r are all fairly standard..? I'm beating PL08 for nearly 8bb/100 over 40k hands now (1/2-5/10) so I don't think i'm too leakkyyy? Although I don't know too much about limit.

[Edited on October 20, 2009 at 2:15 PM. Reason : .]

10/20/2009 2:13:36 PM

Yeah, I too always played pot limit, but I just played high. Too much trouble to figure out odds when you can quarter a pot.

10/20/2009 2:20:01 PM

the most likely range for 3 way cap on that flop includes a flush draw + low draw, which you'd be a dog to.

i'd consider it lucky that you weren't.

it's a clear pull situation, and you were pushing.

10/20/2009 7:22:54 PM

we are 5 handed -- this is a reasonably high limit -- players ranges = less polar, more balanced

like i said i'm not claiming to be anywhere near excellent at limit O8 -- but I can't imagine that's played terribly

probably slightly + or - ev at best/worst

10/20/2009 9:39:32 PM

Full Tilt Poker Game #15655345403: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (114787028), Table 1 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:49:10 ET - 2009/10/29
Seat 1: gurronimo (2,015)
Seat 2: nak25 (960)
Seat 5: joetric (8,030)
Seat 7: SHWADE22 (1,365)
Seat 9: Step05 (1,130)
nak25 posts the small blind of 40
joetric posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SHWADE22 [Jd Jh]
SHWADE22 raises to 320
Step05 folds
gurronimo calls 320
nak25 folds
joetric calls 240
*** FLOP *** [8c Js 8h]
joetric bets 1,000
SHWADE22 raises to 1,045, and is all in
gurronimo folds
joetric has 15 seconds left to act
joetric folds
Uncalled bet of 45 returned to SHWADE22
SHWADE22 mucks
SHWADE22 wins the pot (3,000)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,000 | Rake 0
Board: [8c Js 8h]
Seat 1: gurronimo (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: nak25 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: joetric (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: SHWADE22 collected (3,000), mucked
Seat 9: Step05 didn't bet (folded)

I was gonna slow play this one... but she made it pretty easy for me.

10/29/2009 5:53:53 AM

i poked her last night and again this morning

10/29/2009 7:56:50 AM

weeee

10/29/2009 4:00:32 PM

Showoff.

Can you send me an export of your pt3 settings?

10/29/2009 4:17:44 PM