Quote :

"as much as i'd love to have tubby smith, we don't need to embarrass ourselves again."

Why would Tubby cause us to embarrass ourselves?

2/2/2011 3:51:00 PM

Guessing here...

Publicly trying to lure big-name coach to campus, getting denied = embarrassing

2/2/2011 3:52:27 PM

Tubby would've been a good hire when we hired Lowe. With Tubby, you're getting a guy who would be going into his last job, probably looking for close to $2 million a year, and you have no guarantee that he isn't going to mail it in. Also, we'd be running another coaching search in 5-7 years.

No thanks.

2/2/2011 3:56:32 PM

Fuck no we don't want no old ass Tubby Smith. He's washed up. He's done. He's like 30-31 in Big Ten conference play with the Gophers. We need a young spark plug to come in here and put his foot up the asses of these lazy players.

[Edited on February 2, 2011 at 5:24 PM. Reason : .]

2/2/2011 5:13:11 PM

i just got an email from the wolfpack club asking if i wanted to buy ACC tournament tickets, and promptly fired up the lollercopter

2/2/2011 5:26:25 PM

Tubby Smith is possibly the best realistic candidate out there.

If he can give us 7-10 years, we'd be dumb not to hire him. That' s a long time in the ACC, most coaches don't stay that long.

Hell, if we hire some up-and-comer, there's about a 90% chance we'd fire him before Tubby retires anyways. We'd at least be a top 15ish team coming off of multiple NCAA's going into the next coaching search and be a much more attractive job

[Edited on February 2, 2011 at 6:43 PM. Reason : ]

2/2/2011 6:42:31 PM

Quote :

"Hell, if we hire some up-and-comer, there's about a 90% chance we'd fire him before Tubby retires anyways."

where are you getting your numbers, because we haven't fired a coach in decades

2/2/2011 6:45:00 PM

Based on the fact that very few up and comers ever work out in the ACC.

The odds of hitting a homerun hire are slim. I just don't see a candidate that seems to be a can't-miss prospect.

How many coaches have coached in the ACC for 10 years that moved up from a mid-major?

How many have struck out or been fired after 5-6 seasons?

[Edited on February 2, 2011 at 6:50 PM. Reason : ]

2/2/2011 6:48:04 PM

BOWTIE

2/2/2011 7:04:31 PM

Quote :

"Tubby Smith is possibly the best realistic candidate out there. "

except he's not realistic.

2/2/2011 7:05:20 PM

bowtie adds a couple of credibility points

2/2/2011 7:06:36 PM

Maybe not

$0 buy out, though.

I'd imagine if we matched his salary he'd think about it.

2/2/2011 7:15:36 PM

yeah i mean if someone matched your salary, would you rather live in fucking minnesota or NC?

2/2/2011 7:17:37 PM

His family is from the area as well. He went to school at High Point University in NC


I'm not thinking he's some kind of savior, I'm just saying I'd rather have him than a Gregg Marshall, Chris Mack, etc. I just can't get behind any candidates out there at the moment

We aren't getting a Turgeon, Miller, Anderson, etc.

2/2/2011 7:22:24 PM

kendall smith

/thread

2/2/2011 7:23:39 PM

still credible

2/2/2011 7:45:18 PM

2/2/2011 7:46:22 PM

2/2/2011 7:50:23 PM

I think we're showing some progress

2/2/2011 7:50:55 PM

I don't know how to feel knowing that even with a walk-on getting significant minutes, we aren't any worse.

2/2/2011 7:52:01 PM

^ exactly

2/2/2011 7:53:43 PM

Lowe belongs in bizarro world.

How the fuck did he win 20 games with our least talented team in 20 years last year...

Yet can't beat anyone with this team or the team in his 2nd season?


What the fuck is happening?

2/2/2011 7:54:05 PM

he cant coach

last year we won despite him

2/2/2011 7:55:11 PM

kinda like the Bears made the Super Bowl despite Sexy Rexy

2/2/2011 8:00:56 PM

This team can't fucking rebound. I guess they tricked me earlier this year into thinking that had been fixed. Rally we won with our least talented team because it had a significant level of experience.At this point, I am pretty certain Lowe is not cut out for the college coaching realm I think the offense is too complicated, and he just doesn't get how critical defense is to the offense of teams on the college level. Thanks for bringing in talent and getting the "stage set" for the next coach.

[Edited on February 2, 2011 at 8:03 PM. Reason : asdf]

2/2/2011 8:03:09 PM

Well here is the good news.

It's not going to look like a tough firing. No one is going to be scared of coming to the program with "unrealistic expectations".

After 5 years of missing the tournament our expectations are non-existent.

Also, we have good young talent and still top notch facilities and exposure.

This job seems ripe for competition in this economy. I cant imagine we don't have good options to choose from.

I still dont think its right to boo Sidney. Obviously, he choked big time this season but he's re-loaded the program with an infusion of talent and recruiting connections and he won us a National Championship.

Let's make this separation amicable. Support the team, Support Sidney for the rest of the season and then just everyone go their own ways.

We don't need to lose Harrow, Brown, or Uchebo during this process. Booing helps no one.

2/2/2011 8:04:47 PM

fucking lock this thread up. adder has moved to the dark side.

hey hey, the gangs all here.

2/2/2011 8:05:13 PM

^what he said.

2/2/2011 8:06:43 PM

biggest issue is that i am growing to despise this team b/c of their lack of effort

i think cj williams and maybe lo brown are the only players who seem to bust ass at all times.

i guess painter tries, he just sucks.

2/2/2011 8:08:09 PM

Yeah, CJW, Brown and healthy Tracy are the only players I like on this team

2/2/2011 8:08:58 PM

And didn't Lowe speak specifically about how they had a practice where they got very physical and were hitting each other in an effort to get stronger down low

Doesn't seem like they're being to aggressive at all in the rebounding game after all that

2/2/2011 8:09:33 PM

yea tracy is turning into costner 2.0.

he busts ass for about the first 15 of the shot clock, and first 10 min of the game, then he starts to realize it doesnt matter b/c we cant get him the fukcing ball so he gives up.

actually that shot reminds me, wood tries he just cant get open anymore and seems unable to make a shot inside the 3 pt line

[Edited on February 2, 2011 at 8:13 PM. Reason : wood]

2/2/2011 8:10:43 PM

Quote :

"fucking lock this thread up. adder has moved to the dark side. hey hey, the gangs all here."

2/2/2011 8:15:14 PM

Is anyone not on "the dark side"? I still say give him till the end of the season (which is what I always said I just think this season is pretty much determined). Also how is this team playing better without T. Smith?? WTF I just don't get it...

[Edited on February 2, 2011 at 8:18 PM. Reason : asdfadsf]

2/2/2011 8:18:15 PM

^^you seem to be having entirely too much fun

2/2/2011 8:20:53 PM

He has destroyed Leslie.

2/2/2011 8:24:53 PM

Bullet is still on the bandwagon guys

2/2/2011 8:25:53 PM

Nope leslie's ego pretty much destroyed him. Now he is playing against players that aren't 3'2" he can't rely on his extreme athleticism.

2/2/2011 8:27:33 PM

hey now via text message:

Quote :

"Please tell adder in the credibility thread that any decent coach wouldn't tolerate leslies shit and he has regressed every week"

2/2/2011 8:38:15 PM

Well there's still time to show the world just how much better WF is than we are.

2/2/2011 8:40:31 PM

ahahahaha

help is on the way!!!

[Edited on February 2, 2011 at 8:41 PM. Reason : []

2/2/2011 8:40:32 PM

Quote :

"Nope leslie's ego pretty much destroyed him."

Yeah, he hasn't been the same since he didn't get the start vs. Miami.

HEAD CASE

2/2/2011 8:42:46 PM

we still can potentially win. I cannot believe that I am still watching. We all know what is going to happen.

2/2/2011 8:44:25 PM

Quote :

"so if we come back like this, there is no way sid gets credit right? b/c we are just dong random shit, is that what lowe said in the last timeout? "go out there and throw some shit up there, maybe get some lucky boards...""

i mean, right?

2/2/2011 8:48:58 PM

never understood all the leslie hate

dude did us a favor coming here and we'd have only half of our wins without him (b/c of rebounding mainly)

2/2/2011 8:49:10 PM

leslie just does stupid shit

a good coach would reign him in

just like hickson was good, but he could have been GREAT. and was his starting from day 1 worth destroying our teams chemistry?

[Edited on February 2, 2011 at 8:58 PM. Reason : a]

2/2/2011 8:58:29 PM

oh i don't hate leslie at all.

but he needs to get it through his head that taking three's isn't his game right now.

also, he is not ready to be a defender on this (or the next) level. (P.S. That's the reason recruits under the previous coach often didn't see the court much their freshman year a la cedric simmons)

2/2/2011 8:58:47 PM

^i understand. he definitely frustrates me.

but that seems normal for a freshman. and sidney indeed should be able to control that.

2/2/2011 9:02:43 PM

THE STAGE IS SET

FOR A NEW MEN'S BASKETBALL COACH AT N. CAROLINA ST.

2/2/2011 9:03:13 PM

Retarded substitutions, not motivating players before the game, wasting clock. I will not be sad to see Lowe go.

2/2/2011 9:03:23 PM