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"Did they teach you read at lawyer school"

2/3/2011 3:27:25 PM

Yeah did them?

2/3/2011 3:28:21 PM

Bottom line is that I didn't mention Sid in my post...I just talked about Crean. You brought him up and it started a discussion comparing the two...which you continued in the entirety of one your later posts.

2/3/2011 3:37:00 PM

I'm sorry that I made a post so complicated that you could not comprehend it and jumped to comparing Sid v. Crean head to head (no 41 point losses LOLOL).

I'll try to make my future posts on a reading level low enough for you to absorb their intended meanings.

2/3/2011 3:39:02 PM

Don't knock CoC Law.

They're one of the best Tier 4 institutions in Eastern South Carolina.

2/3/2011 3:40:24 PM

^ LOL

2/3/2011 3:46:22 PM

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"They're one of the best Tier 4 institutions in Eastern South Carolina."

YOU KNOW IT. The ONLY one!

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"I'm sorry that I made a post so complicated that you could not comprehend it and jumped to comparing Sid v. Crean head to head (no 41 point losses LOLOL). I'll try to make my future posts on a reading level low enough for you to absorb their intended meanings. "

I get your attempt to backtrack Ernie...but you brought up Sid in response to my post about Crean, then spent a whole post comparing both of their situations:

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"Crean's first roster was gutted, and he didn't win shit. Sid's first roster was short on depth and long on guys who didn't want to play/couldn't play in his system/got hurt/weren't responding to his coaching style/whatever and he won very little. Terrible situation = terrible season, bad situation = bad season"

then you say you're not trying to compare the two.

If only I could read like Ernie....

2/3/2011 3:55:40 PM

Crean > Lowe



[Edited on February 3, 2011 at 4:09 PM. Reason : oh yeah]

2/3/2011 4:03:21 PM

I'm not fucking comparing their situations. Not on a Sid would have done this at Indiana Crean would have done this here level.

I only pointed out that some of the same people who wouldn't fucking listen when it was explained to them that Sid was put in a rough spot were more than willing to give Crean the benefit of the doubt.
The point of that post, which for some reason you just can't wrap your pretty little head around, was simply that. Crean had a terrible situation, produced terrible results; Sid had a bad situation, produced bad results.

There is no comparison between the two situations. I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the brain-dead retards that surround me.

2/3/2011 4:18:01 PM

If you had to rank them, in order of best coach to worst coach, who would you put first?

2/3/2011 4:23:51 PM

1)Sid Lowe
2)John Wooden
3)K
.......












10309)Crean

2/3/2011 4:50:10 PM

Sidney Lowe is a Lion amongst men

2/3/2011 5:00:43 PM

a food lion that is

2/3/2011 5:03:23 PM

Only a couple more months of this shit then we'll be out of the woods at least

[Edited on February 3, 2011 at 5:20 PM. Reason : .]

2/3/2011 5:20:46 PM

I'm admittedly new to the "who will our next coach be?" stuff ... I was pulling for Lowe, so didn't really chime in on his potential replacements. I rarely even looked at this thread until now, so I'm sure all my ideas have been discussed somewhere on here.

That said, why not Steve Fisher? I know he's a pretty old dude -- probably mid-60s -- but if we want to turn this program around quickly, he'd be the guy to do it I'd think. He's turned SDSU into a top 10 team for crying out loud. He also won a national title at Michigan. And if Chris Webber wasn't a moron, he'd probably have two to his name.

If it were me, there's no way I'd leave a good gig in San Diego for a perenial pressure-cooker in Raleigh. But he seems crazy enough to do it.

2/3/2011 5:26:50 PM

The only old dude we might get maybe is Tubby.

2/3/2011 5:29:56 PM

Mehhh, you're probably right.

Good article on coach of the year candidates (Fisher is No. 2). Some interesting options maybe? Especially these two

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" 9) Randy Bennett, Saint Mary's. I wasn't convinced the Gaels deserved to be ranked last week (they fell out of this week's poll), but there is no doubt that Bennett has done a remarkable job both this season and throughout his nine-year tenure. It's not uncommon for a mid-major program to make waves with a hot player every now and again, but Bennett has lost high-caliber players in each of the last two years (Patty Mills in 2009, Omar Samhan in 2010), and yet the Gaels have not lost a step. The best thing Bennett has done is to set up a recruiting pipeline from Australia to Moraga, Calif. And as he is proving once again this season, Bennett knows what to do with good players once he has them. 8) Dave Rose, BYU. I thought of sticking Jim Boeheim in this spot, but he gets penalized for failing to recruit The Jimmer, even though he was right in Boeheim's backyard. Rose, however, does more than just roll the ball out to Fredette and point him toward the basket. The Cougars are ranked 10th overall in Ken Pomeroy's efficiency ratings. They are the 19th-fastest team in the country, they're ranked sixth nationally in points per game -- and yet they only commit 11.1 turnovers per game, which ranks 14th nationally. That is truly remarkable. Rose has taken BYU to the last four NCAA tournaments. I like his chances to make a lot more noise this time around. "

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/seth_davis/01/24/hoop.thoughts.coach.of.the.year/index.html

2/3/2011 5:34:41 PM

2/3/2011 5:45:29 PM

Young coach >>> Old geezer

We already have an old coach for football.

I've had the old bull, now I want the young calf.

2/3/2011 5:47:52 PM

I'd prefer a guy with local recruiting ties over someone from the west coast

2/3/2011 5:49:03 PM

Rose has pancreatic cancer I think, and Bennett will probably never leave the west coast.

2/3/2011 5:51:10 PM

Randy Bennett looks really familiar



[Edited on February 3, 2011 at 5:54 PM. Reason : a better shot]

2/3/2011 5:52:25 PM

i cyber-hate some of you. i imagine you're turds in real-life too.

2/3/2011 5:54:33 PM

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" If it were me, there's no way I'd leave a good gig in San Diego for a perenial pressure-cooker in Raleigh. But he seems crazy enough to do it."

how do you figure?

2/3/2011 5:57:41 PM

Bullet, please educate us on Lowe's brilliant offensive sets once again

2/3/2011 5:57:43 PM

I think we should get Ruffin Mcneill

2/3/2011 6:00:09 PM

there's absolutely nothing wrong with lowe's offensive sets

2/3/2011 6:10:25 PM

How about the set where we shoot three pointers or jumpers 6 inches inside the arc with 30+ seconds left on the shot clock while everyone on our team stands there and watches. We run that one an awful lot, it seems.

[Edited on February 3, 2011 at 6:13 PM. Reason : fudge]

2/3/2011 6:12:29 PM

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"Bullet, please educate us on Lowe's brilliant offensive sets once again"

what the hell are you even talking about? you keep jumping in and trying to argue with me. it seems that you think that my complaints about the constant bitching and over-the-top attacks on sid somehow equates to me thinking that Lowe is a great coach? It doesn't, you're arguing with no one.

2/3/2011 6:18:29 PM

that doesn't happen as often as you'd like us to believe. generally the sets we run, when we run them, will result in a good shot. whether we make that shot is a completely different story

2/3/2011 6:19:15 PM

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"that doesn't happen as often as you'd like us to believe."

I don't give a shit if you want to believe it or not. I saw at least 20 possessions against VPI where they looked like they were playing in a pick up game. If those plays were choreographed then we're in a lot bigger trouble than I originally thought.


[Edited on February 3, 2011 at 6:30 PM. Reason : x`]

2/3/2011 6:29:19 PM

I really wanted Crean back in 06 after we missed on Barnes and Cal.. i know at one time, he was a "rumored" candidate, but I am pretty sure he never was approached by Coach Fowler..

I also remembered how people really wanted Chris Lowery from S Ill (i was intrigued by him).. and S Ill has been terrible since 06 so i guess it was a good thing we didn't go in that direction


But still, I would love to have Crean, and it would be a HUGE MASSIVE upgrade over what we have now.


Still No. 1 on my "dream" list is Mike Anderson

Realistically though, it will probably be a mid major like Chris Mack

I was also trying to think of all the coaches we went through last time or that were rumored on PackPride or here:

Barnes
Cal
Wright
Mike Montgomery
John Beilen
Chris Lowery
Lon Kruger
Steve Lavin
Tim Floyd


any others that i'm forgetting?

[Edited on February 3, 2011 at 6:36 PM. Reason : ]

2/3/2011 6:33:35 PM

i just signed a petition at firesidney.com to "start the coaching search" early

2/3/2011 6:59:00 PM

^ aww gee, thanks for the info. I didn't know there was a petition.

[Edited on February 3, 2011 at 7:02 PM. Reason : []

2/3/2011 7:01:07 PM

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"Links GoPack.com PackPride.com Forums Rivals.com – NC State Scout.com – NC State StateFansNation.com"

Go figure

2/3/2011 7:39:32 PM

I do like their site slogan, "It's time to move forward."

2/3/2011 7:50:16 PM

^^ haha

2/3/2011 7:56:16 PM

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"Rose has pancreatic cancer I think"

I did some searching on this via google and as best I could tell this has been removed and he's had a good bill of health for the past year. Wikipedia says he's cleared as well...of course there's always the risk it could come back.

I don't know much about him other than the Phi Slamma Jamma thing.

Anyone know if he's mormon, by chance? I'd imagine that might have a small impact on how willing he'd be to leave if he was.

[Edited on February 3, 2011 at 9:43 PM. Reason : ]

2/3/2011 9:42:48 PM

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"I was also trying to think of all the coaches we went through last time or that were rumored on PackPride or here: Barnes Cal Wright Mike Montgomery John Beilen Chris Lowery Lon Kruger Steve Lavin Tim Floyd"

I was pushing for PJ Carlesimo

The first person who mentions Barnes this time should get thrown off DH Hill.

The first person to test to see if they'd be interested should be Tubby.

The next person I'd offer the job to is Blaine Taylor from ODU. He's coached in this part of the country, he's got NCAA Tournament experience at ODU and Montana, was an assistant on some solid Mike Montgomery Stanford teams that made it deep into the tournament, and he's instantly likable because he has a mustache.

http://www.odusports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/taylor_blaine00.html

2/3/2011 11:24:23 PM

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"any others that i'm forgetting?"

McKillop or however you spell his name from Davidson got mentioned a few times last time.
Phil Ford
Whitt
Johnny Dawkins
Billy Gillespie
Nate McMillan

2/3/2011 11:29:01 PM

whats Thurl Bailey been up to lately

after AK47 passes him in all time minutes for Utah, I'm sure he'll be down for an interview

2/3/2011 11:34:06 PM

Needs more time with his guys

2/3/2011 11:48:25 PM

The next coach should keep Sidney Lowe around to coach PGs, get Hodge to coach wing players, and Thurl to coach big men (despite neither of the last two guys having any coaching experience). Oh, and the next coach should be Lee Fowler.

2/4/2011 12:34:21 AM

We should immediately replace Debbie Yow with Marty Hurney

2/4/2011 12:53:16 AM

^fuck that we need george shinn. he'd move our athletics somewhere he thinks would be more profitable... like New Orleans. How many ACC schools would we have to compete with for recruits in New Orleans?

2/4/2011 12:59:35 AM

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"The next person I'd offer the job to is Blaine Taylor from ODU. He's coached in this part of the country, he's got NCAA Tournament experience at ODU and Montana, was an assistant on some solid Mike Montgomery Stanford teams that made it deep into the tournament, and he's instantly likable because he has a mustache."

yea him and billy g (if he's off the bottle for good now) seem like the candidates that are too logical to actually get a shot

[Edited on February 4, 2011 at 2:28 AM. Reason : k]

2/4/2011 2:28:23 AM

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"They are the 19th-fastest team in the country"

How the fuck do you even measure something like this??

I also have no idea who our next coach could be. With the last search, at least we knew who we would probably go after first. After that it was just a cluster fuck (not to mention the cluster fuck of actually going after those initial coaches).

I honestly don't even want to give it much thought. I just want Yow to go out and do her thing and I'll be excited about whoever she hires. There are no guarantees in college basketball. She could hire someone like Tubby and he could lay a freaking egg or hire a no name who comes in and takes us to the Sweet 16 in his first year. I'm just ready for a change because this ship has definitely run its course.

2/4/2011 10:14:32 AM

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"a food lion that is"

It was called Food Town when Lowe was in his prime.

2/4/2011 11:12:28 AM

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"How the fuck do you even measure something like this??"

Possessions per 40 minutes

Frank McGuire says where the fuck have you been for the past 60 years

2/4/2011 12:06:28 PM

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"Possessions per 40 minutes "

Just seems like an odd description. "Fast-paced offense" would be perfect. The "fastest" team sounds like they measured the 40 times for everybody on the team and took the average. They didn't even specify offense and defense...just said "fastest".

Oh well, just never seen it put that way before...

2/4/2011 12:12:44 PM