Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
So when was the Israeli false flag terrorist attack in Washington state? 4/27/2006 3:50:42 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
look salisburyboy, the reason we dont really care is because even if these 5 guys were involved its still not a huge government invovled zionist conspiracy like you claim 4/27/2006 3:54:11 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
whati want to know is how those guys got out of the crashing planes and into a moving van....WITH THE BOX CUTTERS!!! 4/27/2006 3:57:31 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
i mean we have secret technology to control storms and tsunamis
we can probably beam people out of planes
i bet i can find some links with lose correlation that support my theory 4/27/2006 3:58:44 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Here's a nice read if you get a few minutes:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2006/03/29/notes032906.DTL
Quote : | "Long Live The 9/11 Conspiracy!
Anyone still care about the heap of disturbing, unsolved questions surrounding Our Great Tragedy?
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist Wednesday, March 29, 2006
[...]
See, it is very likely that you already know that Sept. 11 will go down in the conspiracy history books as a far more sinister affair than, say, the murky swirl of the Kennedy assassination. You probably already know that much of what exactly happened on Sept. 11 remains deeply unsettling and largely unsolved -- or to put another way, if you don't know all of this and if you fully and blithely accept the official Sept. 11 story, well, you haven't been paying close enough attention.
...what you might not know, what gets so easily forgotten in the mists of time and via the endless repetition of the orthodox Sept. 11 tale, is the sheer volume, the staggering array of unanswered questions about just about every single aspect of Sept. 11 -- the planes, the WTC towers, the Pentagon, the fires, the passengers and the cell phone calls and the firefighters and, well, just about everything. It is, when you look closely, all merely a matter of how far down the rabbit hole you are willing to go.
[...]
...there is also a very smart, grounded, intelligent and surprisingly large faction -- which includes eyewitnesses, Sept. 11 widows, former generals, pilots, professors, engineers, WTC maintenance workers and many, many more -- who point to a rather shocking pile of evidence that says there is simply no way 19 fanatics with box cutters sent by some bearded lunatic in a cave could have pulled off the most perfectly orchestrated air attack of the century. Not without serious help, anyway.
Whose help? This, of course, is the biggest question of all, one which many of the more well-researched theories go a surprisingly long way toward answering.
[...]
Of course, there is another option. There is another way out. You may, as is the standard cultural default, simply ignore it all, scoff and roll your eyes and shrug it all off because it's just too bleak and distasteful to entertain the idea that the dark Sept. 11 thread winds all the way through the NSA and the FBI and the White House and the Project for the New American Century and Dick Cheney's mangled soul and God only knows where else.
But then again, no. You have to look. You have to try. Knowledge is power, and while the truth may be spurious and slippery and messy and deep, the pursuit of it is just about the only thing we have left. Give that up, and all that's left is spiritual numbness, emotional stasis and death. So what are you waiting for?" |
The truth is breaking out too fast now. The MSM cannot ignore it. They cannot contain it. They can only hope to put their "spin" on it. I highly suspect that the MSM (and many in the 9/11 truth movement itself) will try to shift the blame solely to Bush and a limited number of people around him. They will most likely avoid going into the Mossad/Israeli involvement. And most importantly, they will avoid fingering the ultimate orchestrators of the attacks--the Zionist Cabal controlling our government.4/27/2006 4:00:07 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
you've already posted that
it didnt work then... either 4/27/2006 4:01:13 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
No. I don't think I have posted that article in this thread. 4/27/2006 4:04:52 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
So when was the Israeli false flag terrorist attack in Washington state? 4/27/2006 4:05:04 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
i predict that salis will post another meaningless article somewhere inthe next page of this thread.... 4/27/2006 4:09:35 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
its hard to argue with the fact that the plans laid out in the Protocols have been subsequently implemented 4/27/2006 4:11:11 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
So since an attack didn't occur, there were no Israeli spies there? And they wasn't any plotting by those Israelis to carry out attacks?
Sound "logic" there. 4/27/2006 4:11:20 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
we have spies in israel too 4/27/2006 4:11:52 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
You're trying to draw a parallel with the guys who were nabbed in New York on 9/11.
So am I.
So why were the Mossad spies driving around Washington state with traces of explosives if they weren't planning an attack? 4/27/2006 4:13:09 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "we have spies in israel too" |
So that makes it ok for Israeli and Mossad spies to carry out terrorist attacks in America and blame them on muslims?4/27/2006 4:13:49 PM |
tennwa33 All American 920 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't muslims claim responsibility for the attacks? 4/27/2006 4:20:16 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
no...but it does make it ok for alien overlords dressed as mossad agents but carrying arab ID's to direct a moving company to carry out terrorist attacks on the united but act like isrealis who blame arabs
what?? 4/27/2006 4:21:05 PM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Didn't muslims claim responsibility for the attacks?" |
The MSM and government used fake bin Laden tapes to trick everyone into thinking bin Laden had claimed responsibility for the attacks.4/27/2006 4:24:23 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
So why were the Mossad spies driving around Washington state with traces of explosives if they weren't planning an attack? 4/27/2006 4:27:57 PM |
brianj320 All American 9166 Posts user info edit post |
do u deny that Osama bin Laden isnt real or that just the tapes arent real? 4/27/2006 4:28:07 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " So that makes it ok for Israeli and Mossad spies to carry out terrorist attacks in America and blame them on muslims?" |
4/27/2006 4:28:40 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
No, bin Laden didn't have any motive to carry out the 9/11 attacks.
Its not like he issued a fatwah or anything urging muslims to kill americans.
Keep ignoring evidence, little buddy.
Quote : | "Text of Fatwah Urging Jihad Against Americans Published in Al-Quds al-'Arabi on Febuary 23, 1998
Statement signed by Sheikh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin; Ayman al-Zawahiri, leader of the Jihad Group in Egypt; Abu- Yasir Rifa'i Ahmad Taha, a leader of the Islamic Group; Sheikh Mir Hamzah, secretary of the Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Pakistan; and Fazlul Rahman, leader of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh
...
All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a clear declaration of war on God, his messenger, and Muslims. And ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries. This was revealed by Imam Bin-Qadamah in "Al- Mughni," Imam al-Kisa'i in "Al- Bada'i," al-Qurtubi in his interpretation, and the shaykh of al-Islam in his books, where he said "As for the militant struggle, it is aimed at defending sanctity and religion, and it is a duty as agreed. Nothing is more sacred than belief except repulsing an enemy who is attacking religion and life."
On that basis, and in compliance with God's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims
The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, "and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together," and "fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God."
This is in addition to the words of Almighty God "And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated and oppressed--women and children, whose cry is 'Our Lord, rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will help!'"
We -- with God's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it. We also call on Muslim ulema, leaders, youths, and soldiers to launch the raid on Satan's U.S. troops and the devil's supporters allying with them, and to displace those who are behind them so that they may learn a lesson." |
http://www.ict.org.il/articles/fatwah.htm4/27/2006 4:32:33 PM |
tennwa33 All American 920 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The MSM and government used fake bin Laden tapes to trick everyone into thinking bin Laden had claimed responsibility for the attacks." |
Then why did Bin Laden short sell airline stock right before 09/11? Isn't this evidence that he did it?
Quote : | "the UPI and the Swedish daily newspaper Aftonbladet both published September 14 reports indicating that Osama Bin Laden had possibly engaged in large scale stock speculation in the U.S. and Europe just before the attacks. Both stories suggested that Bin Laden had bought large amounts of "shorts.' Taking a short position means that an investor, betting that a stock's price will go down, places a large number of shares up for sale at a given price usually just at or below the current market price. If a stock is in short supply, buyers will purchase the stock rapidly and the "short seller" then has a given period of time to produce the actual shares which he or she is not required to own at the time of the sale. " |
http://www.cam.net.uk/home/aaa315/peace/stock.htm
Or is this an example of the international media protecting the US government?4/27/2006 4:35:20 PM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
well if it were jews that had short-sold, then it would be evidence that they'd perpetrated 9/11, but since it was bin-laden that's just the jews framing a poor muslim 4/27/2006 6:14:15 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
i'm sure bin laden had nothing at all to do with it and is a saint who would never hurt a fly 4/27/2006 6:35:39 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
what ive learned
zionists and secret organizations: purposefully leave in your face signs about their existence and involvement
terrorists: dont leave signs, if their is a sign its because someone framed them 4/27/2006 6:45:02 PM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
I saw Osama nursing a starving baby last week in chicago... 4/27/2006 6:54:26 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
^^
that's pretty much it. There really isn't much more to say about this.
now why don't all of you stop bumping this thread to the top and just let it die of natural causes?
I mean, the forum as a whole says they don't want salisburyboy silliness all over Page 1, then the very people who bitch about it the most bump it to the top more than anyone else. 4/27/2006 7:03:28 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
yes
you're exactly right duke
i'm sure a therapist would have a field day with us
now go ahead and since you're rationalizing everything
tell us why you love this guy so damn much
because apparently we're the idiots for challenging him and he's the fucking genius
by the way, remember every time you're flying a jet for "america", you're flying that jet for a cabal of edomite zionists who are using you as a pawn for global jew domination 4/27/2006 7:38:52 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
if i didnt bring his stuff to the top i wouldnt have any entertainment
[Edited on April 27, 2006 at 7:50 PM. Reason : id be forced to actually talk about real stuff] 4/27/2006 7:50:10 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
salisbury has taught me to be afraid
because we are apparently up against an amazing race of Jawa Ninjas 4/27/2006 8:15:19 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
im really fucking afraid of this chip that can control humans
that and weather controlling technology 4/27/2006 8:16:59 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
This is my favorite thread because it lets me beat up the retarded kid behind the bleachers instead of playing kickball with the normal kids. 4/27/2006 8:46:31 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
and its great cause he keeps coming back for more
so you beat him up a little bit and you can still get a couple games of kickball in 4/27/2006 10:03:35 PM |
Waluigi All American 2384 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The MSM and government used fake bin Laden tapes to trick everyone into thinking bin Laden had claimed responsibility for the attacks." |
chris, youre still using that "their noses dont match up" argument?
that was probably the least convincing thing youve posted. the pic you used wasnt even from the cnn article you posted. yours was some obvious concoction of some self-fulfilling prophecy over at prison planet.4/27/2006 11:09:19 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
BLURRY PHOTOS AND DANCING JEWS
NOT JUST THE NAME OF A PUNK BAND ANYMORE! 4/28/2006 12:03:52 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that was probably the least convincing thing youve posted." |
Ahem....
4/28/2006 3:06:47 AM |
Waluigi All American 2384 Posts user info edit post |
oh, what about the "satanic horns" sign bush gives?
I MEAN, ITS NOT LIKE HES PATRONIZING TEJAS OR ANYTHING 4/28/2006 3:10:40 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
You can ridicule my position on 9/11 all you want. Before long, you will be in the clear minority, if you are not already. More and more people are waking up to the truth, and even the MSM is starting to acknowledge it:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2006/03/29/notes032906.DTL
Quote : | "Long Live The 9/11 Conspiracy!
Anyone still care about the heap of disturbing, unsolved questions surrounding Our Great Tragedy?
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist Wednesday, March 29, 2006
[...]
There are disturbing questions about collapse speeds and controlled demolitions and why the towers fell when the all-steel infrastructure was designed to easily withstand the temperatures of any sort of fire, even burning jet fuel. There are questions of the mysterious, media-documented blasts deep in the WTC towers that took place after the planes hit. There are questions of why there was such a short-selling spree on shares of American Airlines and United Air Lines the day before the attack, huge doubts about the failures of NORAD and the FAA, the bizarre case of the missing plane in the Pentagon crash, and also the downing of Flight 93 where, according to the coroner, no blood or major plane wreckage was actually found. There is, ultimately, the stunning failure of the entire multi-trillion-dollar American air-defense system. Just for starters.
There is also the very big question of what happened to 7 WTC, the only building not hit by anything at all, but which collapsed anyway, in a perfect controlled-demolition sort of way, for no reason anyone can sufficiently explain. But which just so happened to contain vital offices for the IRS, the Department of Defense, the CIA, the Secret Service, the Securities and Exchange Commission and more." |
4/28/2006 8:11:05 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
a column, obviously written by an idiot, is not exactly the pinnacle of journalism as you so try to present it. 4/28/2006 8:31:59 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "obviously written by an idiot" |
Such desperate smear tactics are no longer going to work. Too many people have woken up to the truth and looked at the evidence.
Off the top of my head, I recall that MSM articles saying the 9/11 Truth Movement has valid points have now been written in the Miami Herald, San Francisco Chronicle, New York Magazine, and the Village Voice--just to name a few.
And polls now show that a majority of Americans do not believe the official story and believe the government was involved.
The arguments of the 9/11 Truth Movement are now breaking into the mainstream, because the evidence is conclusive and a significant number of people are waking up and taking notice.4/28/2006 8:41:43 AM |
RevoltNow All American 2640 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " And polls now show that a majority of Americans do not believe the official story and believe the government was involved." |
hahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahaha pause ahahahhahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahhahaha4/28/2006 8:44:44 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The arguments of the 9/11 Truth Movement are now breaking into the mainstream, because the evidence is conclusive and a significant number of people are waking up and taking notice." |
no, it would be because a significant number of people are FUCKING IDIOTS.4/28/2006 8:46:17 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
I won't reference the more recent CNN Quick Vote polls which show that around 80% of the country believes the government is lying about 9/11 (because they are allegedly "unscientific"), but take a look at the results of a New York statewide Zogby poll from August 2004:
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855
Quote : | "On the eve of a Republican National Convention invoking 9/11 symbols, sound bytes and imagery, half (49.3%) of New York City residents and 41% of New York citizens overall say that some of our leaders "knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act," according to the poll conducted by Zogby International." |
So, statewide, 41% of New Yorkers believed that our government officials were complicit in the 9/11 attacks. And that was August of 2004, almost 2 years ago. What do you think those numbers are like now?4/28/2006 8:51:12 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
WELL THAT'S PROOF RIGHT THERE FOLKS
A MINORITY OF PEOPLE THINK THE GOVERNMENT MIGHT HAVE KNOWN SOMETHING IN ADVANCE
THAT'S DAMNING EVIDENCE IF I EVER SAW IT!!!!! 4/28/2006 8:54:43 AM |
tennwa33 All American 920 Posts user info edit post |
So if the Muslims were not responsible, then why did Bin Laden short sell airline stock right before 09/11? 4/28/2006 8:56:35 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why did Bin Laden short sell airline stock right before 09/11?" |
...allegedly...4/28/2006 8:59:38 AM |
tennwa33 All American 920 Posts user info edit post |
Don't you think Al Qaeda would have sent out a press release by now saying they were not involved if the U.S. government had fabricated the tapes that claim responsibility for the attacks? I just think Al Qaeda would be a little more vocal about their organization being destroyed if they were innocent.
[Edited on April 28, 2006 at 9:27 AM. Reason : zsfd] 4/28/2006 9:21:01 AM |
salisburyboy Suspended 9434 Posts user info edit post |
"Al-Qaeda"--rather al-CIA-duh--is a creation of the CIA and other Western Intelligence Agencies. It has its roots in the Mujahideen, which the U.S. and CIA helped create, funded, and trained when they were fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan. The CIA forged connections with bin Laden at that time as well.
New 9/11 film "Flight 93" gets blasted on Universal Studio's "Flight 93" message board; many threads on how 9/11 was an inside job http://www.universalpictures.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1 4/28/2006 9:27:10 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
so what's your rank in the nutjob keyboard brigade, salisbury?
obergruppenfuhrer by now i would hope 4/28/2006 9:32:06 AM |
tennwa33 All American 920 Posts user info edit post |
So wait, the CIA created Al Qaeda? Then why is Al Qaeda trying to have our troops withdraw from Iraq. Just like the Mujahideen opposed the Soviet presence in Afghanistan, Al Qaeda opposes the U.S. presence in Afghanistan and Iraq. If the CIA created Al Qaeda, why don't they stop them from killing our soilders? 4/28/2006 9:38:46 AM |