simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
here's to not falling apart, but we look great. 11/13/2011 7:15:58 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
i know, i know, it's been against scrubs, but i think we're looking like a much better team so far. 11/13/2011 8:04:47 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
not sure how literally you meant scrubs but I think both those teams (UNC-A for sure) are top ~200 teams. In years past we've had nailbiters with some of the worst teams (300+) in D-1.
So that's definitely a step in the right direction. We played UNC-A about as tough as UNC did today (granted we had them at home not on the road and UNC did travel a lot).
Right now we're still looking like a bubble team. That's a pretty large improvement in such short amount of time. Not to mention we're loaded next year, especially if CJL isn't ready to go pro yet. 11/13/2011 8:09:55 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, this team would never lose to New Orleans or ECU.
Despite not having a clue who Gottfried was when he was hired, I'm pretty glad we have him instead of Gregggggggg Marshall right now. 11/13/2011 8:11:28 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
credible as fuck 11/13/2011 8:47:21 PM |
ncwolfpack All American 3958 Posts user info edit post |
looking good so far.
boastboastboast and ibtfirstloss 11/13/2011 8:52:30 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
I like the team a lot. Though IMO, 3 areas need a lot of work:
1) using the backboard instead of weak, finger rolls. Too many missed layups last game due to this. Backboard layups have got to be the highest percentage shot.
2) big men winning battles on the block, both defense and offense, especially offense.
3) defense overall; it was better tonight, but every now and then I'm just flabbergasted at how we can look so lost on defense 11/13/2011 8:58:35 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
i'm waiting for skokiaan to come in here and punch gottfried in the jaw 11/13/2011 9:10:39 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
lol @ his new twitter avatar
11/13/2011 9:55:10 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
lol at that pic 11/13/2011 10:00:48 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha, in that pic, he looks a little like michael douglas when he was younger. 11/13/2011 10:07:13 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
and bobby lutz looks like paul mccartney 11/13/2011 10:08:01 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
great dilbert impression! +1
11/13/2011 10:11:48 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
Credible as can be. I love the system and intensity. Still a bubble team, if that, but they are going to be fun to watch this year at least, win or lose. I mean watching the way they play is fun, though it's never fun to be losing. But if we are it seems like we will be getting beat, rather than being lazy and beating ourselves.
4 obvious points of credibility
he lets them play more his substitution patterns arent WTF??? he doesn't look confused the entire game like the old coach oh... and RECRUITING baby! 11/14/2011 2:17:43 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
+he doesn't yell/scream/whistle incessantly from the sideline 11/14/2011 2:29:53 PM |
jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
I'm on the Gottfried train. Hope we do well and he stays with us for many many years. 11/14/2011 2:33:26 PM |
NCStatePride All American 640 Posts user info edit post |
When Lowe first came to Raleigh, one thing he was supposedly going to institute above-and-beyond what Herb did was an up-tempo NBA styled offense. I don't want to talk about that, but I did want to point out that over the past 5 years, I think we've only have 3 games where we scored over 90 points. Obviously we have two thus far. It's really hard not to make wild assumptions about this team when you see such vast improvement. 11/14/2011 3:28:45 PM |
jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
Will we be competitive in the ACC Championship? Who knows. But we will certainly be better than we were under Coach Lowe. 11/14/2011 3:44:33 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
let's not kid ourselves. if you've been burdened by having to see every basketball game for the past 20 years at ncstate, you can honestly say you haven't seen something so refreshing as this in quite a long damn time. 11/14/2011 3:48:38 PM |
tommy wiseau All American 2624 Posts user info edit post |
very credible, especially when compared to Lowe who is on the shortlist of worst coaches in ACC history 11/14/2011 3:49:10 PM |
NCStatePride All American 640 Posts user info edit post |
^With the pace that Gottfried runs these kids, they should do better than Sendek's teams. Their endurance *should* be much better for the repeated gameplay. 11/14/2011 3:49:16 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Was at the game last night, we looked so fluid out there. Very interested to see where we're at after leaving New Jersey.] 11/14/2011 3:55:27 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Gottfried: Right man at the right time for N.C. State?
http://acc.blogs.starnewsonline.com/26293/26293/ 11/14/2011 8:17:52 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
nice last statement
Quote : | "But for the first time since Jim Valvano was running around a court in Albuquerque looking for somebody to hug, there’s reason to hope that the Wolfpack may finally have found a coach capable of harnessing all that passion and turning it into results." |
11/14/2011 8:28:15 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
les robinson, herb sendek, and sidney lowe... i have the most respect for all of you.
but shiiiiiitttt, that was a lloooonnnnnggggg damn 20 years 11/14/2011 8:39:11 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
just put my money where my mouth is. splurged a shit load on some great UNC tickets feb 21st. 11/14/2011 9:41:44 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
you jumped the gun there, but i like the enthusiasm. 11/14/2011 9:42:58 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "just put my money where my mouth is. splurged a shit load on some great UNC tickets feb 21st." |
This is not the year to expect to beat carolina11/14/2011 9:44:12 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Does no one remember how jacked some folks here were when we got Lowe? Have some perspective. I like the man, too, but two wins vs horseshit teams does not a dynasty make. 11/14/2011 9:44:28 PM |
pack_bryan Suspended 5357 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
broke the god damn bank
but my throat wont be able to make a noise for 6 god damn weeks after that game if i have anything to do with it. its gonna be loud as shit in there.
^ lol thats the exact reason actually. i did the same that year also. and it payed off and we actually upset them then. i guess you forgot. no you didnt forget. its the internet. you have a perfect recollection of all history. of course. how silly of me
there comes a time in a mans life where he either has to invest or to continue to dabble and pretend and keep beating around the bush. consider me 'all-in' on gottfried.
[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 10:05 PM. Reason : ,]
11/14/2011 9:44:48 PM |
NCStatePride All American 640 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think you can call both teams "horeshit" teams, but they certainly aren't quality. Morehead St. was a top 100 RPI team last season, but they did lose a few starters and this was their first game of the season. UNC-Ashville had 4 returning starters from last season's top 150 RPI team. Before you start shitting on them, consider that last season we were ranked 125 in the RPI ratings with a MUCH harder schedule than those guys (hard opponent = better RPI ranking) and lost to Maryland (RPI = 98) and UVA (RPI = 141).
I'm not going so far as to say "we would have lost to one of these teams last year", but we obviously got beat by worse teams than our two "horseshit" opponents so far this year. 11/15/2011 8:57:09 AM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
unfortunately it looks like our OOC schedule was not as difficult as i had imagined... vanderbilt is severely overrated, and morehead state is currently losing to college of charleston 11/15/2011 9:16:24 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
There is no question that Morehead State is a bad team. But it was the way we played that was so encouraging. 1) We got out to an early lead and kept building on it. 2)The offense was very consistent and well run. I heard that we had 30 assists on 40 baskets. 3)We looked like a normal team should when breaking the press.
[Edited on November 15, 2011 at 9:23 AM. Reason : 1] 11/15/2011 9:21:43 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Does no one remember how jacked some folks here were when we got Lowe?" |
I think there was a lot of glass half full talk, but no one was jacked. Maybe after the NIT wins, but there was still some serious doubting going on.11/15/2011 9:22:55 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I remember being kind of excited when they had that little rally thing at the soccer field. 11/15/2011 9:24:48 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Wasn't even a soccer field then! No one remembers anything! 11/15/2011 9:25:39 AM |
PrufrockNCSU All American 24415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Was at the game last night, we looked so fluid out there. Very interested to see where we're at after leaving New Jersey." |
It's my understanding that most people are excited, better off, and relieved when they leave New Jersey.11/15/2011 9:26:14 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
^^ you right 11/15/2011 9:26:43 AM |
NCStatePride All American 640 Posts user info edit post |
Just because Vanderbilt had a wiff, don't mistake that for "they're over rated". UNC lost to College of Charleston in 2005 when they won the National Championship. I wouldn't go into the Vanderbilt game assuming anything. 11/15/2011 9:28:27 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
WHAT A WIFFERRRRR
11/15/2011 9:41:44 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Actually UNC lost to Santa Clara to start off their 2004-2005 season. They lost to the College of Charleston a few years ago in OT when Goudlock went off on them. That was the year when they were severely overrated to begin the season and actually finished with the same conference record as us. Despite being terrible, we still could not beat them that year. 11/15/2011 11:02:28 AM |
NCStatePride All American 640 Posts user info edit post |
OOPS, you're absolutely right. Santa Clara beat them, but that still proves the same point. Santa Clara finished the '04-'05 season with a record of 14-16 (8-8 in the West Coast conference). They were not a good team at all, but early on in the season, shit happens. 11/15/2011 11:07:14 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
you know what else happened the night Santa Clara beat them?
the Palace Brawl 11/15/2011 11:08:10 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Malice at the Palace is the preferred nomenclature 11/15/2011 11:41:32 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
was trying to think of it, couldn't risk googling it and having to go back and edit in some ^^s if someone posted before me 11/15/2011 11:50:31 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Felton didnt play that night either. That kinda matters. 11/15/2011 12:15:33 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
yup 11/16/2011 9:31:23 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Ehhh I'll go ahead and toss in a credibility point 11/16/2011 9:33:21 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ still no excuse 11/16/2011 9:35:35 PM |
Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
Credible 11/16/2011 9:37:01 PM |