So who should we want to win? BC or Miami? Another loss for Miami makes our sweep of them look less impressive but it may help us take their place on the bubble.

3/3/2012 2:39:33 PM

BC knocks them off the bubble. We would be better off with that I believe.

3/3/2012 2:52:03 PM

finishing in a tie with miami and one other team gets us a better seed in the acc tournament though I think

also it would be nice if they finished the year inside that stupid ass "top 50 rpi wins" stat. you know, the one where we have 0 wins against the top 50 rpi because we swept miami and beat texas, who would be in the top 50 otherwise

3/3/2012 3:13:30 PM

Not matter what's better BC is not winning @Miami. they up 21 right now.

3/3/2012 3:29:43 PM

looks like we might get a lucky break with Murray State pulling this out

3/3/2012 4:03:30 PM

TY Racers

3/3/2012 4:07:23 PM

Big 10: MSU, OSU, Wisc, Ind, Michigan,
Big 12: KU, Missou, Baylor, Kstate
Big East: Cuse, marq, gtown
SEC: Kentucky, florida, vandy
ACC: UNC, Duke, FSU, UVA or NC STATE (1987 ACC CHAMPS BABY!)
MWC: New Mexico or UNLV
A-10: St Louis or Temple
MVC: Wichita
C-USA: Memphis
WCC: Gonzaga, BYU, or St Marys
WAC: Nevada
CAA: Drexel or VCU
Ivy: Harvard
Atlantic Sun: Belmont
OVC: Murray State
Sun Belt: MTSU
MAAC: Iona
Southern: Davidson
Big West: Long Beach


One down, a few more to go. If someone could keep this updated over the week that'd be a great way for us to stay on top of the at-large spots available.

3/3/2012 4:27:53 PM

Thanks for posting that ^
Wichita is currently tied with Illinois St with about 4 minutes left



[Edited on March 3, 2012 at 4:34 PM. Reason : f]

3/3/2012 4:30:07 PM

Feel free to add teams to the list over the week too as it becomes obvious they are in the tournament win or lose...


Example: A bubble team like Cincy advances to the Big East Final they should be added to the list. If a team like Pittsburgh makes it to the Final, they should not be added to the list though obviously.


I'd do it myself but I'm going to be away from my computer this week and it's too difficult from my phone.

3/3/2012 4:33:55 PM

ugh, way to go wichita

3/3/2012 4:45:44 PM

yeah, wichita lost. as long as creighton wins the tournament it shouldn't matter though.

3/3/2012 4:53:18 PM

Big 10: MSU, OSU, Wisc, Ind, Michigan,
Big 12: KU, Missou, Baylor, Kstate
Big East: Cuse, marq, gtown
SEC: Kentucky, florida, vandy
ACC: UNC, Duke, FSU, UVA or NC STATE (1987 ACC CHAMPS BABY!)
MWC: New Mexico or UNLV
A-10: St Louis or Temple
MVC: Creighton
C-USA: Memphis
WCC: Gonzaga, BYU, or St Marys
WAC: Nevada
CAA: Drexel or VCU
Ivy: Harvard
Atlantic Sun: Belmont
OVC: Murray State
Sun Belt: MTSU
MAAC: Iona
Southern: Davidson
Big West: Long Beach

3/3/2012 5:01:33 PM

UNCA is in

3/3/2012 5:18:00 PM

they had to, they werent going to be taking any spots away from bubble teams

3/3/2012 5:24:05 PM

i still don't know why Pac12 isn't on that list

they're going to get 3, maybe 4

3/3/2012 5:28:43 PM

1 now equals 3 or 4 I see

3/3/2012 5:31:50 PM

didn't you know? teams with less than 10 losses in major conferences pretty much always suck

3/3/2012 5:45:17 PM

pac 12 was an oversight, my fault. Add Cal and whoever is in already

3/3/2012 6:31:28 PM

belmont losing

3/3/2012 7:37:24 PM

welp, looks like we aren't going to get any help in the ACCT bracket

3/3/2012 7:48:48 PM

^We could win and still get the 6 seed so we don't know that

3/3/2012 7:52:09 PM

yeah we'll have to re-evaluate our preferred seeding depending on who wins this game

3/3/2012 7:55:44 PM

So I want to win and get the 6 seed I think. Go Clemson and UVA. But I also want a bye. Hell I don't care anymore. Just beat VT.

3/3/2012 8:38:35 PM

Quote :

"belmont losing"

they stepped their game up and are up by double digits now, good for us

3/3/2012 8:48:52 PM

I know this is probably a special needs questions, but what's the deal with Belmont winning?

[Edited on March 3, 2012 at 9:13 PM. Reason : Like does it have something to do with us? I didn't see where we played them.]

3/3/2012 9:11:27 PM

as a bubble team, we want all the mid-major conference schools who won their regular season to also win their post game tourney

a team like Belmont would get an at large bid most likely if someone else won their conference tourney, meaning less at-large spots for teams like NC State

also teams that win their regular season and don't make the NCAA get automatic NIT bids, so it helps our NIT seeding too lol

3/3/2012 9:13:08 PM

Oh word, that makes sense. Thanks.

3/3/2012 9:14:08 PM

If belmont loses then they still likely make the tournament and so does the random team that wins their conference tournament. So one spot evaporates.

Unc winning hurts. I think id rather get the 6 because a win over Fsu and duke gives us a good shot whereas a win over uva and loss to unc probably isn't good enough

3/3/2012 9:15:52 PM

i don't know that we can beat FSU, though.

3/3/2012 9:18:39 PM

We did play unc better last time and they typically aren't great in the ACCT but I would still put our odds of winning at about .005%

I just want to beat VT then let whatever happens happen in regards to seeding. It's all irrelevant if we lose tomorrow.

3/3/2012 9:21:36 PM

Do we want texas to win against Kansas? If they win, its good that we beat texas, but then again, that could solidify their tournament spot

3/3/2012 9:23:57 PM

Lunardi says 6 in from the ACC right now...course he has 10 teams from the Big East in, so who the fuck knows

^interesting question, but i think its a moot point, i think Kansas is too good<

[Edited on March 3, 2012 at 9:30 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2012 9:27:04 PM

belmont wasnt making the tournament if they lost

they won, so it doesnt matter, but yea

3/3/2012 9:39:36 PM

The latest bracketology by Lunardi I see only has 4 ACC teams, not 6.

3/3/2012 10:32:50 PM

Update that shit, Joey Brackets!

Seton Hall is probably out now at least

[Edited on March 3, 2012 at 10:37 PM. Reason : ]

3/3/2012 10:37:12 PM

^^i'm just going off a graphic they showed about an hour ago on ESPNU, could have been a typo for all I know...but maybe after Murray State, Asheville and Belmont won, he adjusted, but I'm not an ESPN Insider

[Edited on March 3, 2012 at 10:40 PM. Reason : had both the ACC and Big XII with 6 bids apiece]

3/3/2012 10:39:59 PM

so we're pulling for a clemson and uva win and then us beat vt and we get a 6

seems like the best possible outcome at this point

3/4/2012 12:29:57 PM

Quote :

"We did play unc better last time and they typically aren't great in the ACCT but I would still put our odds of winning at about .005% "

Roy doesn't care about the ACC tourney... but you better believe he cares about playing NC State in any situation. We can't beat them this year so I'd rather just avoid if possible.

Looks like we are locked in to fourth or fifth at this point, though so we are pretty much going to be playing them should we make the semis.

[Edited on March 4, 2012 at 1:53 PM. Reason : x]

3/4/2012 1:53:25 PM

looks like clemson is done for

3/4/2012 2:04:46 PM

Yeah, Roy's UNC teams always get up for us no matter what. I'm pretty sure he tells his guys to absolutely humiliate us, not just beat us.

3/4/2012 2:06:22 PM

ugh, its pretty much gonna be a 4,5 or 7

:-/

I think I'm pulling for UVA here, more than likely we're going to be playing them in the quarters and we need that possible win to still be meaningful

[Edited on March 4, 2012 at 2:14 PM. Reason : .]

3/4/2012 2:11:04 PM

I hear G-Man, but for some reason I'm watching a fucking Missouri Valley Conference game.

3/4/2012 2:20:03 PM

UVA/MD is on 106 for me, Time warner wrald2

3/4/2012 2:38:52 PM

Big 10: MSU, OSU, Wisc, Ind, Michigan,
Big 12: KU, Missou, Baylor, Kstate
Big East: Cuse, marq, gtown
SEC: Kentucky, florida, vandy
ACC: UNC, Duke, FSU, UVA or NC STATE (1987 ACC CHAMPS BABY!)
MWC: New Mexico or UNLV
A-10: St Louis or Temple
MVC: Creighton
C-USA: Memphis
WCC: Gonzaga, BYU?, or St Marys
WAC: Nevada
CAA: Drexel or VCU
Ivy: Harvard
Atlantic Sun: Belmont
OVC: Murray State
Sun Belt: MTSU
MAAC: Iona
Southern: Davidson
Big West: Long Beach

somebody update the rest i'm too lazy

[Edited on March 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM. Reason : and BYU still might get in, i dunno]

3/4/2012 5:12:19 PM

So, following that VT win, live RPI has us at

Rank Team RPI Record SOSRk SOS AWP Rk OOC RPI SOS

54 North Carolina St. 0.5756 20-11 ACC 29 0.5716 119 0.5874 11-4 45 23
55 Miami FL 0.5755 18-11 ACC 41 0.5621 101 0.6154 9-4 70 98

[Edited on March 4, 2012 at 8:11 PM. Reason : that turned out uglier than expected]

3/4/2012 8:11:25 PM

20 win season

3/4/2012 8:19:38 PM

3/4/2012 8:21:49 PM

so better record, better rpi, better sos, and swept miami...we definitely ought to be ahead of them in the ncaa discussion. it'd be nice to see miami (or texas) get into the top 50 rpi just give us a win over a top 50 team.

3/4/2012 8:24:04 PM

gotta use the code

Rank    Team                     RPI    Record SOS Rk    SOS        AWP Rk            OOC   RPI    SOS             

54	North Carolina St.	0.5756	20-11	ACC	29	0.5716	119	0.5874	11-4 	45	23
55	Miami FL	        0.5755	18-11	ACC	41	0.5621	101	0.6154	9-4	70	98

3/4/2012 8:26:11 PM

Bold prediction: IF we get into the tournament, we will win it.

3/4/2012 8:30:02 PM