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2/11/2011 5:14:22 PM

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"only 14 teams in the damn country have won 2 or more nat championships. we are in that club. fucking journalshits "

Only 7 have done it under two different coaches.

We're in pretty good company on that one

2/11/2011 6:03:12 PM

And such a crappy history that we trail only Duke and UNC in ACC titles. And we neck-and-neck with UNC for the lead until the late 80s. But other than that, yes, our history is riddled with suck and failure.

2/11/2011 6:57:51 PM

time to stop harping on history and focus on making new history

2/11/2011 6:59:47 PM

and that starts with a win over Wake Forest on Sunday!

2/11/2011 7:04:51 PM

Good read, from the DBR perspective.

http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/articles/?p=38486

2/12/2011 8:59:12 AM

Wow, that article is right on the money. Of course, DBR always seems to get it right (and is always really nice to state). This was pretty interesting...

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"If that makes State the worst high-paying job in the country (as Parrish claims), where does Boston College rank? Al Skinner was FIRED after leading the Eagles to seven NCAA Tournaments in 10 years. He produced four ranked teams to one for Sendek. He had a .600 winning percentage to .591 for Sendek. He had a .500 winning percentage to .450 for Sendek. Yet, he was fired while Sendek decided to leave because he wasn’t appreciated enough. Which school – N.C. State or Boston College – has the most unrealistic expectations? The implications of all this is that – N.C. State is a second-rate basketball program that should have been content with Sendek’s modest – and it was VERY modest – success. The Pack’s current misery is a fair punishment for the program’s delusions of grandeur. "

2/12/2011 10:01:57 AM

really well done by DBR

2/12/2011 10:06:17 AM

damn. what a rational article.

2/12/2011 10:34:12 AM

DBR has always been super fair to State fans from what I read.

Someone should email that to Parrish. That's from the horse's mouth. State is a proud program with a ton of history to be proud of...when even your rivals can admit it, then you know it's true

2/12/2011 11:00:20 AM

^
People emailing that Troll is the only reason why articles like that get written.

2/12/2011 11:02:29 AM

Yeah, you're probably right

2/12/2011 11:35:35 AM

you know something's wrong when Wiederer and Friedlander are both defending NC State fans on the issue

2/12/2011 1:00:40 PM

the DBR must not be aware of the newer Dail Basketball Center

2/12/2011 1:20:53 PM

Dail Center is attached to Weisinger Brown. It's basically the same building.

2/12/2011 1:44:16 PM

i did not know that

2/12/2011 1:45:27 PM

No articles change the fact that, when faced with trying to find a new coach, our fans immediately assume we can steal a coach from a top 5 school and that if we don't, it's the fault of something other than their expectations.

I mean, really? Pack Pride is throwing around Bill Fucking Self.

2/12/2011 2:46:05 PM

ahahahahahaha

completely delusional

2/12/2011 2:49:45 PM

^^ Just checked the 'Big Name Coaches' thread and saw Izzo and Donovan mentioned

...

2/12/2011 2:52:11 PM

holy shit. bill self? really?

hahahahhahahah

izzo? hahahahahahahahah

[Edited on February 12, 2011 at 2:52 PM. Reason : fuck pack pride.]

2/12/2011 2:52:14 PM

Bill Self? My uncles name is Bill Self. That would be AWESOME BABYYYY if he were our coach.

2/12/2011 3:12:56 PM

I am bill self.

2/12/2011 3:15:13 PM

BTW...

To all the doom and gloomers who think that firing Sidney and getting a new coach means starting all over with a decimated team...

What happened to Clemson when Purnell left?? Serious question, but did they lose anybody? Any recruits? I can't remember. All I know is that a new coach has a great chance at taking them to the tourney. And I don't think they have any McDAA's on their team...or even top 30 recruits (like Harrow and Brown).

If this is handled the right way, we can avoid defections and actually have a good season next year.

2/12/2011 5:24:49 PM

Arizona fans are trolling State fans on ASU's message board

2/12/2011 5:25:13 PM

^ like what

2/12/2011 5:33:40 PM

Basically they're pissed because packpride posters suggested we're going after Miller and they've said that Miller is 100% not going to even consider us.

[Edited on February 12, 2011 at 5:40 PM. Reason : .]

2/12/2011 5:40:32 PM

I hardly ever go to pack pride, but I was intrigued by the "big name coaches" thread

just found this gem:

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"I think Barbee from Auburn would be a good coach. Auburn is horrible this year but that is because they have no players. One of their starters who would have been a walk on is on an engineering scholarship. I've watched some of Auburns games and they play with passion and determination. In the LSU game they almost beat them after scoring only 6 points in the first half, gaining 40 points in the second half. At one point they were a couple points behind them. He's been succesful everywhere he has went. Once they get good players Auburn will be good in basketball. "

there aren't enough 's in the world

2/12/2011 5:45:11 PM

^ the fucking Auburn coach??? I'm so thankful that guy isn't our AD.

Oh maybe we should just get the coach from Towson b/c they don't have any players either hahahaha

[Edited on February 12, 2011 at 6:02 PM. Reason : .]

2/12/2011 6:00:16 PM

On the SFN forums they're talking about Pitino. Someone said the only reason we would not be able to get him is because he remembers "how our administration hung Valvano out to dry."

2/12/2011 6:08:20 PM

lol

DAS WUT I HERD TOO

2/12/2011 6:11:06 PM

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"Pitino"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

2/12/2011 6:13:47 PM

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"What happened to Clemson when Purnell left?? Serious question, but did they lose anybody? Any recruits? I can't remember. All I know is that a new coach has a great chance at taking them to the tourney. And I don't think they have any McDAA's on their team...or even top 30 recruits (like Harrow and Brown). "

I don't recall anyone jumping but only two recruits were signed and they were 2 stars so they probably didn't have too many other big name teams trying to get them. They have one McDAA (Milton Jennings I think?) but they have a lot of really solid players who had defense hammered into them (Purnell was a pretty damn good coach considering the talent level on the team).
I don't think it is unrealistic to think we will lose some of the recruits but you gotta break some eggs to make an omelet right?

2/12/2011 6:51:10 PM

To me it doesn't seem that hard to see what we need:

Go get a proven winning coach at the mid-major level who coaches two things really well:

1. DEFENSE
2. TOUGHNESS

Sid's teams have all lacked the two above IMO. If I am Debbie You that is what I am looking for. A proven winner whose teams play great defense and play super hard every night out. To me, this more than anything else, makes for a consistent winner. See: Mike Krzyzweski, Bo Ryan, and Brad Stevens to name a few.

You could argue that Ryan and Stevens aren't great offensive coaches (not that Stevens has had all that long to prove it) but their teams win A LOT b/c they play great defense and they are tough.

2/12/2011 6:53:38 PM

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"(Purnell was a pretty damn good coach considering the talent level on the team)."

You have no idea how funny this is coming from you.

2/12/2011 8:17:53 PM

PackPride has it on good authority that we should be able to get:

-Bill Self
-John Calipari
-Rick Pitino
-Jay Wright
-Thad Matta

Why wouldn't we be able to get them? I mean, we DID win national championships when they were in school. Thus, we deserve it.

I swear these people have been in comas since V was given the boot.

Not to mention the reverence for him is ridiculous.

2/12/2011 9:55:59 PM

Whether you want him or not, Pitino went from KY to LU (which would be like us getting rw), these guys are not that loyal. Fucking anyone (short of K and RW) is for sale.

Money talks - if we are serious, we have time to go after some big names. If we are not willing to pony up the dough, then we are going to get a mid major up and comer which is always a gamble.

2/12/2011 10:20:40 PM

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"Whether you want him or not, Pitino went from KY to LU (which would be like us getting rw)"

yeah, except roy boy went to UNC, Pitino did not attend either Kentucky or Louisville. Still I don't think he would come here and I don't think Yow would ask.

2/12/2011 10:56:29 PM

lawl is that a serious sentiment

2/12/2011 11:09:20 PM

Two extremely dumb posts in a row

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"Pitino went from KY to LU"

You missed a step

2/12/2011 11:17:02 PM

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"Fucking anyone (short of K and RW) is for sale."

first of all, we're not going to offer enough money that "fucking anyone is for sale". and second, no coach is going to leave a program that they've turned into a contender for nc state, who has been the worst team in the acc for the last five years.

2/13/2011 12:42:34 PM

oh look, the credibility thread is talking about the coaching search. WHATS THE POINT IN HAVING TWO THREADS

2/13/2011 12:57:35 PM

STILL CREDIBLE

2/13/2011 2:59:17 PM

Lowe deserves an extension after that exciting win vs. a quality team!!!!!!!1ONE

[Edited on February 13, 2011 at 3:21 PM. Reason : w]

2/13/2011 3:21:11 PM

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"STILL CREDIBLE"

More than just credible, Sidney Lowe is INCREDIBLE

2/13/2011 4:07:39 PM

we're good again guys, don't worry. close the thread we won

2/13/2011 4:37:51 PM

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"largest margin of victory in an ACC road win in almost 60 years. State hadn't won an ACC road game by at least 25 points since the 1954-55 season"

2/13/2011 4:49:37 PM

^ that's great, it's still only his 7th ACC road win in 5 dreadful years.

edit: but I get your point, we were playing a real gritty opponent.

[Edited on February 13, 2011 at 4:51 PM. Reason : .]

2/13/2011 4:50:59 PM

how come Sloan and V never won ACC road games by 25 points

2/13/2011 4:52:17 PM

because they didn't have a chance to play the 2010-2011 Wake Forest basketball team?

2/13/2011 4:53:15 PM

How come Tony Bennett couldn't even go into Wake this year and win? He's the 4th best coach in the conference, right?

Probably just a fluke...

How come Duke couldn't beat them by 25 this year?

2/13/2011 4:55:03 PM