We moved up to 98th place for the time being.

4/7/2007 9:59:34 PM

says 100...

4/7/2007 10:22:25 PM

It's 98 excuding Google and No Team.

4/8/2007 8:00:07 AM

That's like saying "we're number 1, excluding the other 99 top teams". lol jk

4/8/2007 11:12:57 AM

NeoEraser, I think you are finally being shut down
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=84926

4/12/2007 5:50:36 PM

I've added a little something to help the cause.

4/19/2007 2:01:52 AM

We hit 10 million as a team!

4/26/2007 8:53:07 AM

WOOOOO HOOOOOOO!!

4/26/2007 5:42:12 PM

so are you guys mostly running the SMP client? How come the SMP doesn't show a cool picture like the other client does?

4/28/2007 11:36:29 AM

http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html

4/30/2007 9:26:48 AM

i've only used the consoles... there's a console version for the single core too.

Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista "text-only console" (single core)
http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/release/FAH504-Console.exe

Windows 2000/XP/Vista "SMP client console" (dual/quad core)
http://www.stanford.edu/%7Ekasson/folding/Folding@Home%20Windows%20SMP%20Client.EXE

4/30/2007 9:44:58 AM

I generally only use the console version, except when I'm lazy and don't want to run a service.

I just noticed we've got 5 new users with Chubbe_And_Friends putting up some big numbers, and I just reclaimed 3rd.

[Edited on April 30, 2007 at 5:20 PM. Reason : 3rd]

4/30/2007 5:18:57 PM

Hello,
Chubbe_And_Friends is The_Simpsons plus some friends I got to join in on the project. I was just wondering if anyone else is having problems acquiring new work units today? On a couple of the computers we have running, when they finished a work unit today they were unable to recieve a new one. They are stuck on attempting to get work packet even after restarting the folding program.

4/30/2007 5:24:19 PM

same problem... probably giving them all to PS3's. just when i was getting some CPU power as well.

4/30/2007 5:28:06 PM

same here. hope this isnt a permanent thing

4/30/2007 5:30:33 PM

They are experiencing some server outages:
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/serverstat.html

4/30/2007 8:38:22 PM

damn these PS3s are folding monsters.

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=osstats

Anyone run one? Can you pause and restart work like on the windows clients? Sounds like they only run them in the evening...is this due to heat concerns?

5/3/2007 11:11:03 AM

I'm running my PS3 and have been for just over a month. You can pause and exit the program to play games, music, whatever. It is either run manually or you can configure the system to have it start after a 10 minute idle period. There have been rumours of heat issues all over the web, but I have been running it 24/7 since I downloaded the folding app and have not had a single issue.

5/3/2007 2:04:12 PM

anyone here run a GPU client? does a GPU client on a X1800 or X1900 chew up WUs faster than normal CPUs?

5/3/2007 2:20:48 PM

seems like they are more cost effective than folding farms (for folding), plus they play games and have blue ray...

5/3/2007 2:21:54 PM

http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-ATI.html

"We now support serveral classes of GPU boards, including X1600, X1800, and X1900 class GPU's from ATI. At the launch, we supported X1900 cards only. X1800 cards do not provide the performance seen in X1900's and so we strongly recommend X1900 class cards (although we now officially support X1800). X1900 and X1800 cards are actually quite different -- they have different processors (R520, R530 vs. the R580 [in the X1900 series]). The R580 makes a huge difference in performance -- its 48 pixel shaders are key, as we use pixel shaders for our computations. Also note that the card should have more than 256MB (i.e. at least 512MB) of RAM, otherwise the GPU client will put a huge load on the client machine (although we do note that the 256MB X1950Pro using PCIe does work reasonably well). "

I don't run it but it looks like it would be faster... Also there are some extra installation procedures.

5/3/2007 2:26:26 PM

so do people run a normal client AND a GPU client at the same time then...on the same machine?

5/3/2007 2:28:01 PM

whats your guys experience with the -advmethods flag? does your client run stable? do ytou get more points or less points? do you complete WUs and not get credit?

5/3/2007 5:05:43 PM

I like how I can forget that I have the client running in the background, eating 50% of my cpu cycles and still be able to play video games...

5/3/2007 6:07:50 PM

^ what do you have it running on just 1 core? or can you set it to only consume half?


fyi i run mine on both cores 24X7 and can still use the PC just fine.

5/3/2007 6:21:41 PM

i have had my PS3 on pretty much 24x7 since folding came out on the network. granted, in that time I have also played and beaten The Godfather, God of War II, and gotten a fair dose of Motorstorm in, but I have absolutely zero problems with heat. Every night when I get home I touch it to see if it's even warm and nada.

Better watch out the_simpsons...I've got you in my sights!

5/3/2007 6:41:43 PM

just work on one core. I still have adobe programs running at the same time so I'd need a little bit of cpu cycles, but it doesn't hicup the system at all, in games, it runs a few frames slower, but nothing that would set alarms off at first.

5/3/2007 6:45:37 PM

Quote :

"so do people run a normal client AND a GPU client at the same time then...on the same machine?"

There is no real reason to do this unless you really like the pretty graphics. If you don't want to run the SMP client, then you can run more than one instance of the console.

As for the -advmethods flag, I'm not sure if it is beneficial anymore. I still have it listed on the website though.

If anyone has any other good tips, post them here and I will add them to the website. I have not mentioned the ATI console since it is not straight forward to setup AFAIK.

5/3/2007 8:09:08 PM

Quote :

"It seems that the PS3 is more than 10X powerful as an average PC. Why doesn't it get 10X PPD as well? We balance the points based on both speed and the flexibility of the client. The GPU client is still the fastest, but it is the least flexible and can only run a very, very limited set of WU's. Thus, its points are not linearly proportional to the speed increase. The PS3 takes the middle ground between GPU's (extreme speed, but at limited types of WU's) and CPU's (less speed, but more exibility in types of WU's). We have picked the PS3 as the natural benchmark machine for PS3 calculations and set its points per day to 900 to reflect this middle ground between speed (faster than CPU, but slower than GPU) and flexibility (more flexible than GPU, less than CPU). "

5/3/2007 8:16:10 PM

Quote :

"There is no real reason to do this unless you really like the pretty graphics. "

i didnt think the advantage was pretty graphics, i mean for getting more WUs/points

Quote :

"I still have it listed on the website though."

website?

5/3/2007 8:27:20 PM

http://www.fah.genejockeys.com

Running two instances for a single processor is not recommended since it slows the overall project down and as I understand it, there is some overhead CPU cycles that are lost due to competition between the instances.

5/3/2007 8:40:46 PM

goalielax,
I am no longer folding under The_Simpsons. I am now Chubbe_And_Friends since I hijacked some of my friends office computers. So, you better watch out for me... again.

I am also running my PS3 24/7 and I haven't had any heat problems yet.

For those commenting on running folding at 50% all the time and not noticing a difference in their computer's ability, doesn't folding reduce the amount of CPU it uses when other programs need the CPU's power?

5/3/2007 9:38:48 PM

Quote :

"For those commenting on running folding at 50% all the time and not noticing a difference in their computer's ability, doesn't folding reduce the amount of CPU it uses when other programs need the CPU's power? "

thats my feeling on it. im running folding 24X7 on my primary PC and haven't noticed any slowness when doing basic tasks (internet, email, office and other basic apps).

5/3/2007 10:08:40 PM

It runs at the lowest possible priority. There have been some issues reported with HT CPUs where it Windows thinks there are two processors and does not distribute the CPU cycles properly.

5/3/2007 11:16:53 PM

^ i just installed the console version on a P4HT proc and it only consumes 50% of the CPU cycles...is that normal?

5/4/2007 6:16:12 PM

seems like it thinks there are two processors and it's using 100% of "one" of them

5/4/2007 6:18:31 PM

^^You can disable hyperthreading in the bios. That is what stanford prefers. The other option is to install another instance in a second folder with a different machine ID and run both with the -local flag IIRC. At work I just disabled HT to make it easier. If you run two instances at the same time with HT turned on you will get more points that with only one and HT turned off. The downside is that WUs take longer and that is worse for the project than doing more WUs if that makes any sense.

5/4/2007 7:22:07 PM

Quote :

"At work I just disabled HT to make it easier. "

does this affect usability of the pc...if its being used during normal working hours, and the console is running as a service?

Quote :

"If you run two instances at the same time with HT turned on you will get more points"

same question

5/4/2007 8:06:05 PM

^Useability is better without HT and folding. When HT first came out some suggested that Windows would occasionally not divert resources away from the second instance of folding.

5/4/2007 8:47:34 PM

We are clinging on to 99th place. We need some help to stay in the top 100 teams, otherwise in 3 weeks we will fall 4 spots.

5/10/2007 1:18:03 PM

Okay, I just got the Linux client installed and running...on a quad-core server.
I have access for a short time to one of NCSU's HPC blades, and I'm running it on there while I can.

About how long does it take to process one work unit? (Assuming a standard single-core 2Ghz machine or so)

On one of the remote-linux machines I used for a test run, it gives me jobs with 250,000 steps...This one gives me jobs with 4,000,000

[Edited on May 10, 2007 at 4:52 PM. Reason : eek]

5/10/2007 4:50:38 PM

Work Units have differnet point values based on how long they take. I would say most on a 2GHz machine take 1-5 days off the top of my head.

Thanks for the help.
Fold On!

5/10/2007 8:58:19 PM

FWIW, i have a Core 2 Duo E6600 OC'd to 3.0Ghz and it cranks through 1 SMP WU per day, which right now has me averaging ~1500pts/day for the last 3 days

[Edited on May 11, 2007 at 2:24 AM. Reason : .]

5/11/2007 2:23:02 AM

so when you say overclocked to 3gh...you mean 1.5ghz per core right?

is that how that dual core works?

5/11/2007 3:00:55 AM

no, the overclock is irrelevant, i just stated the speed of my processor for reference, both cores run at 2.4ghz stock

5/11/2007 4:18:46 PM

^^^ thats sick man. how come your 24 avg shows as @ 700 then? does it take a while for the avg to catch up?

5/12/2007 11:45:43 AM

whoops, i had it off the last 48 hours, i've been working on my pc

i run the console and it's not always on 24/7

05.12.07 1,523 1
05.11.07 1,523 1
05.10.07 1,523 1
05.09.07 1,523 1

[Edited on May 12, 2007 at 6:11 PM. Reason : .]

5/12/2007 6:10:25 PM

for those not participating, check it out...we could use your help

http://www.fah.genejockeys.com

5/13/2007 8:50:11 AM

Two months and I'm in the top 50? wOOt?

5/14/2007 10:45:25 PM

i've decided to give my PS3 most of the month off (when I'm not playing games) to see what impact it's having on the power bill.

5/15/2007 1:31:19 PM