Pikey All American 6421 Posts user info edit post |
I'm still not sure what Sookie is yet, but her blood seems to be the 'cure' for sunlight. That's why Sophie/Bill/Russel/Eric all want her. After Bill feasted on her, he was briefly immune to the effects of sunlight, although he did start to bake/smoke a little bit after being in it for a few minutes. But nothing like the immediate toasting that would normally occur. That's why Bill took the chance to run out in the sunlight to save Sookie from Renee at the end of season 1 and didn't immediately fry up, because he knew what she was the whole time.
This makes me think that while he may have originally been sent to Bon Temps to 'procure' Sookie, I think he really did fall in love with her as demonstrated by him killing his maker, Lorena, to save her. And Eric mentioned something about the only allegiance a vampire has is to his maker.
In regard to the fairy/nymph scene while Sookie was in a coma, I'm still not sure what that makes her. But they made it clear that vampires have hunted their kind before. When Bill showed up at the hospital, darkness fell in her dream. Vampires = evil, darkness. The nymph said, "Don't let him take your light." "Light" in this case being the ability to tolerate sunlight. Essentially, they want to harvest Sookie to experiment and eventually make them all Daywalkers. 8/3/2010 7:23:18 AM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
^Not all vampires are necessarily evil though. Yeah, Bill might have a hidden agenda but there are some like Ed from Season 1 that are typically innocent. 8/3/2010 9:13:54 AM |
toemoss All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
you still don't want to be locked in a truck with a hungry one.. 8/3/2010 9:18:59 AM |
Pikey All American 6421 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not saying they are all inherently evil... Just that they give off some kind of dark aura or something that other supernaturals pick up on. 8/3/2010 9:20:11 AM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
lol once again i stand corrected by my peers, i really have a hard time keeping up but i love just thinking of the possibilities 8/3/2010 10:02:16 AM |
Pikey All American 6421 Posts user info edit post |
I'd like to know more about Russell's history. Did it say somewhere that he was like 3000 years old? That would be right around the start of the Iron Age when the Greek empire was forming and coming to power. 8/3/2010 1:00:34 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
^^i hope when I correct you don't take it negatively. I love this too (obviously) so I'm just trying to help. Keep thinking of possibilities! It's what I love to read most
^yeah when bill tried to stake him he laughed at bill's attempt saying, "I'm over 3000 years old!" (wiki says nearly 3000...shrug). And bc I love this way too much, I watched the comic con panel for TB and Dennis O'hare was saying that Alan Ball gave him some creative license when it came to history of Russell. He didn't get much in to what, but said he enjoyed doing the research and hitting Alan Ball with his ideas.
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[Edited on August 3, 2010 at 1:46 PM. Reason : Nearly] 8/3/2010 1:36:28 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
blood spewing out of lorena's mouth like a fountain: retarded the slow-motion effect of the magister's head flying across the room: retarded
both of these things made me laugh out loud...which i do not think was the point...they were both unnecessary (they could have just made lorena explode in blood, or show the magister's head rolling across the ground) and were done so poorly that i couldn't help but sneer 8/4/2010 8:19:46 AM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, they've really upped the gore/slaughter this season and most of it has been unnecessary and mediocre at best effects wise. 8/4/2010 3:49:23 PM |
federal All American 2638 Posts user info edit post |
^ false. the gore has been excellent. 8/4/2010 7:22:23 PM |
fodrizzle All American 647 Posts user info edit post |
I've been digging the gore as well. Tara beatin that vamp's head in was pretty intense. 8/4/2010 8:22:51 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
if by intense you mean fake looking and laughably over the top, sure. 8/4/2010 8:32:25 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
triple agree on the gore being just right. Magister's head splatting has been my favorite so far. 8/4/2010 8:32:31 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
I, too, have not minded the gore at all...
Honestly I don't know how you could say that there's more gore than previous seasons... I mean, this is True Blood... Have you even been watching the show? It's always had a ton of gore!
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fodrizzle All American 647 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if by intense you mean fake looking and laughably over the top, sure." |
They see me trollin', they hatin' 8/4/2010 8:38:52 PM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Honestly I don't know how you could say that there's more gore than previous seasons... I mean, this is True Blood... Have you even been watching the show? It's always had a ton of gore!" |
I greatly beg to differ. i don't recall previous seasons being quite as frequent or "intense" with those types of effects.
And it's not that gore bothers me or that i mind it. I actually really enjoy well done special effects makeup of the sort. I'm just not impressed with the quality of a lot of what I've seen on this show this season. And I really don't think it's contributing much other than trying to entertain people with something other than the story-line itself, which some have complained about this season (particularly the first half).
There have been several scenes that made me laugh very hard because it just looked ridiculous. I DID like the guy's head splattering on the floor - mostly b/c i didn't expect it. But a lot of it just looks cheap and unrealistic imo.
And beyond not looking good, some of it isn't really necessary to help tell the story, that or it seems to be over the top for the sake of being over the top imo. There are movies and what not made that do just that, over the top gore and make-up effects really just for the sake of it. And the story almost serves for a opportunity for the effects more than the effects serve to help tell the story. There's nothing wrong with that imo. I watch those movies occasionally, but i usually expect better effects than story.
I felt the show used those types of effects to help tell the story in the past (and effectively). Now it seems more like the effects themselves are taking center-stage at times, which isn't necessary. And regardless of whether it's needed; it's one thing to do a good job with it and another to do a mostly so-so job with it. If most of them didn't look like complete shit and made a little more sense at times, I wouldn't mind at all.8/5/2010 12:01:58 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And beyond not looking good, some of it isn't really necessary to help tell the story, that or it seems to be over the top for the sake of being over the top imo." |
We're in the True Blood thread, right?
Just want to double check.8/5/2010 12:03:54 AM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
lol, good point. but there's a point where a show goes from being somewhat lighthearted and even campy to just being ridiculous. At least for me there is. 8/5/2010 12:10:44 AM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
The show has always been over the top and ridiculous. That's its charm. 8/5/2010 12:16:46 AM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
agreed. it's just approaching a threshold (in some ways) for me that's too far.
[Edited on August 5, 2010 at 12:21 AM. Reason : not entirely] 8/5/2010 12:21:04 AM |
stuck flex All American 4566 Posts user info edit post |
So...can vampires die from decapitation or bludgeoning? I'd imagine that given enough time and a source of human blood they could recover. 8/5/2010 11:58:39 AM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
i'm going with a yes on decapitation since his head sort of exploded like their bodies do when they die and Russell said something about giving him a true death.
I'm not so sure about the bludgeoning. Franklin's body didn't really do anything, where as something has happened to the bodies of all the other vampires who have been killed, i think. And in one of the scenes right after Tara "killed" Franklin, there was a part where Sookie said something like "this is what a dead vampire looks like" about Lorena. I took that to possibly be a hint that Franklin wasn't dead. 8/5/2010 12:11:30 PM |
poopface All American 29367 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, that's why later on in the episode, Tara said "SHITTTTTTT", when she realized that Franklin didn't explode 8/5/2010 12:17:40 PM |
stuck flex All American 4566 Posts user info edit post |
Russell's cane does appear to have a silver tip.
[Edited on August 5, 2010 at 1:49 PM. Reason : asdf] 8/5/2010 1:48:37 PM |
toemoss All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
Looked like maybe a silver cap on shaved wood (i.e. stake)
I'd have to watch it again though 8/5/2010 3:30:07 PM |
Lokken All American 13361 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i thought he took the silver tip off to show the steak. 8/5/2010 3:41:09 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
I just realized that Tara drank Franklin's blood so he can just come pick her up whenever 8/5/2010 3:45:10 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
emo bill is emo 8/8/2010 9:06:47 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
i love sexy new werewolf man 8/8/2010 9:33:22 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
damn that was good
but fucking two steps forward and three steps back...damn violin love theme. I am le tired of you!
Quote : | "I hope Eric beds and stakes Talbot instead...get at the King through his heartstrings." |
BAM!8/8/2010 10:03:09 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
That last scene gave me a boner 8/8/2010 10:03:59 PM |
dzags18 All American 5694 Posts user info edit post |
So whats with the bleeding out of the ears? 8/8/2010 10:13:16 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
in the TB world, when a vampire is awake during the day they get "the bleeds"...and they can bleed from their ears or nose 8/8/2010 10:35:33 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Despite the entirely gratuitous sex at the end, that was the gayest episode yet. 8/9/2010 11:11:39 AM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
i could really do without all the homo stuff that's shown... i mean no one wants to watch two guys making out. at the same time, they haven't had much lesbian action... wtf? 8/9/2010 11:36:24 AM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
You are not the target demographic for this show. Enjoy the tits and blood when they pop up. 8/9/2010 12:00:41 PM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, but even girls (that i know at least) don't enjoy seeing dudes make out. It's a double standard... Dudes like watching hot girls make out, but most girls don't get the same kick out of two dudes. Episode would've been just as good, (better IMO) without it. End scene was on point though. 8/9/2010 12:06:47 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe we know different women. How many women reading this thread were grossed out by seeing two hot mostly naked dudes last night?
Maybe it's that women just aren't as into visual pornography as men (typically) but I doubt most women object to seeing gay dude porn more than hetero porn. Being at work I'm not even going to attempt to research this. 8/9/2010 12:11:18 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
yeah..."I'm bored. Take off your clothes," was a big "thank you Talbot and TB writers!!" in my house last night
Male homosexual portrayal on TV or in movies does not bother me. I don't seek it out, but I'm not going to change the channel over it. If anything, there's much more lesbian action on film that it's refreshing a show would show as much male on male action as TB has this season. 8/9/2010 12:36:12 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just curious how the fuck Eric is going to get from Talbot's bloody remains to Fangtasia (from the previews for next week) in one piece... 8/9/2010 1:23:55 PM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
i'm assuming he's going to hit the road immediately. And while Russell is faster, he doesn't have a link to Eric. Eric can be long gone before Russell returns.
[Edited on August 9, 2010 at 1:27 PM. Reason : .] 8/9/2010 1:26:44 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Maybe we know different women. How many women reading this thread were grossed out by seeing two hot mostly naked dudes last night?" |
the girl definitely covered her eyes during that part.8/9/2010 1:45:27 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
But not during the sex scene at the end? Weird. 8/9/2010 2:15:57 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I just tried to paste something in a work email and instead pasted:
Quote : | "Maybe we know different women. How many women reading this thread were grossed out by seeing two hot mostly naked dudes last night?" |
Glad I caught that before sending.8/9/2010 2:25:57 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
LOLS 8/9/2010 2:48:31 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
so did Eric stake Talbot, while he was uhh... *ahem* staking him? 8/9/2010 3:50:54 PM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
nah, he only penetrated Talbot's heart 8/9/2010 3:59:23 PM |
federal All American 2638 Posts user info edit post |
alan ball is gay, so i doubt there was so much gay sex just for stupid housewives 8/10/2010 1:08:24 AM |
MunkeyMuck All American 4427 Posts user info edit post |
Just watched the minisodes for the first time. Thought it was interesting that the post Eggs Jason breakdown showed a shifted warewolf who was just watching him. Would be interesting if they brought up that it was Crystal. Like she put herself there for him to find when he made his "bust".
[Edited on August 10, 2010 at 1:09 AM. Reason : .] 8/10/2010 1:08:58 AM |
Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
so i watched the past three episodes due to you all saying it's getting better. Good to see it's getting better.
That sex scene at the end was indeed awesome. 8/10/2010 9:07:15 AM |