^my thoughts exactly

4/1/2009 10:27:03 PM

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"i wonder what the heck he did in that temple?"

obviously to beseech some kind of pre-Egyptian timeless demigod to use the power of the island to bring him back to "the land of the living"- eh? Just like Locke says at the end...

[Edited on April 1, 2009 at 11:26 PM. Reason : locke]

4/1/2009 11:22:09 PM

i don't want to see gods introduced to the show as real things. i hope there's another explanation.

4/1/2009 11:24:28 PM

i know, time travel, smoke monsters, people who live decades w/out aging, people who come back to life

all that is good, BUT THAT WOULD CROSS THE LINE

4/1/2009 11:30:49 PM

christ, calm down.

4/1/2009 11:32:11 PM

I like how they suggested that Eloise and Charles used to be the unofficial leaders of the others that get kicked off the island by ben

[Edited on April 1, 2009 at 11:40 PM. Reason : M]

4/1/2009 11:33:49 PM

The miles/hurley scene was gold. I really did feel as if I was on here reading post after post again. Perhaps the writers are on tdub

I also like how they addressed the potential plot hole and then came up with a clear explanation for it. They are doing quite nicely at tying up loop holes.

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i think it was pretty dead on for anyone who suggested juliet would work on him, as opposed to jack. jack did no work on him, and she did a damn good job. the degree of your trolling is proportional to the size of your text.

4/1/2009 11:42:43 PM

directly proportional??

inversely proportional??

and with what factor????

4/1/2009 11:46:24 PM

No looped holes were tied

Merely addressing a problem doesn't resolve it

And no one guessed that ben would be sent to the others

And everyone though ben would remember everyone when he grew up because he got shot and that's why he has files on everyone--when in reality, he could just get files on any random person just because he had the capability to do so

4/1/2009 11:55:05 PM

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"No looped holes were tied"

Which ones were left open?

4/2/2009 12:17:09 AM

oh and by saved jack i meant ben.

everyone was so on my ass for saying juliet wasn't "her"

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[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM. Reason : moranz]

4/2/2009 1:24:37 AM

I like the ironic time loop here: Why did Jack refuse to help young Ben? Im sure its in no small part due to adult' Ben's bad behavior. However, by not helping young Ben, Jack may be indirectly responsible for Ben becoming the bad man he is.

4/2/2009 4:00:50 AM

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"I like the ironic time loop here: Why did Jack refuse to help young Ben? Im sure its in no small part due to adult' Ben's bad behavior. However, by not helping young Ben, Jack may be indirectly responsible for Ben becoming the bad man he is."

So intuitive!

No shit, the whole point is they went back in time and caused the event that sent them back in time and made the loop - but Desmond can stop it!

4/2/2009 8:22:45 AM

I need more Desmond, brotha!!!!!!

4/2/2009 8:52:16 AM

haha, spot on.

4/2/2009 9:17:16 AM

Got you BigB, I also suggested Jules was her. I thought you were implying that she wasn't which is why I attacked you so, I apologize for that.

I also liked how Jack saved Ben before because Kate asked him to and then he refused to save him because of Kate. "You didn't like who I was then." Brilliant.

4/2/2009 9:34:22 AM

It would have been cool if this show was on and tanked in the 70's. Ultimate script writings!

4/2/2009 9:55:44 AM

wat?

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4/2/2009 11:31:54 AM

I'm just saying this show would be mind blowing if it aired for a period in the 70's, and no one got it.

4/2/2009 11:38:37 AM

this show did air in the 70s.


































[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 11:52 AM. Reason : technically GI was 60's but you get the joke]

4/2/2009 11:51:29 AM

so like back when the producers/writers were like 8?

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4/2/2009 11:51:30 AM

yeah. when the producers were 8. or were they?

4/2/2009 11:52:09 AM

^^i saw one of your quaker school buses on the highway the other day.

4/2/2009 11:53:33 AM

word.

CFS rocked

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[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 11:58 AM. Reason : haha the world will never know]

4/2/2009 11:58:36 AM

Glad Jack finally grew a fucking nut sack. I still fucking hate Kate. I'm getting bored with all this lame-ass girl-drama. There's been such a lack of the "mystery of the island." MOAR Desmond. Less stupid girls.

4/2/2009 12:21:41 PM

sort of looks like a J. Crew ad.

4/2/2009 12:25:00 PM

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"Quote : "so i guess that answered hurley's question.. richard said ben wouldn't remember anything...""

Quote :

"exactly, also could be why he tells Locke in The Man From Tallahassee that he was born on the island"

The correct quote is, "If I take him, he's not ever going to be the same again. What I mean is that, he's going to forget that THIS ever happened and that his innocence will be gone. He will always be one of us."

It makes quite a difference.

[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 12:28 PM. Reason : quote']

4/2/2009 12:28:18 PM

so there is the reason for ben to not remember anyone else. but then again, this young ben and the older ben that does the purge has quite a few years between the two.

i wouldn't see the others keeping him for a long time as when he came back to the dharma group, people would suspect that he would have changed. so if he comes back soon, that means jack, kate, sawyer, juliet, hurley, jin, and other guy have got to go sometime soon.

4/2/2009 1:56:23 PM

^ when Christian was showing the Dharma photos to Sun he had to specifically find '77 or whatever year they are in, indicating they probably will be gone after that somehow. yes/no?

[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 2:42 PM. Reason : \/ ahh ok.]

4/2/2009 2:37:02 PM

Not if the pictures were classes of "New Recruits".

4/2/2009 2:41:50 PM

what the fuck

where is farraday. he's the best god damned character on this show.

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[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 3:13 PM. Reason : must be sucking marvin's dick down at the orchid or something]

4/2/2009 3:12:51 PM

i think we probably won't see him again until "The Variable"

4/2/2009 3:18:22 PM

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=podcast#t=3421

more for you who liked that fuckin hurley/miles scene, sadly no audio podcast this week.


so now we are starting to see why charles began to not like ben.

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4/2/2009 3:20:20 PM

i heard ellie and charles, no nealy.

i'm pretty sure that all ben is forgetting is how to live like one of the dharma. the whole "he'll always be one of us" is the only reason i'd say that. i mean, ben has to come back and live among these people for 10-15 more years.

4/2/2009 3:29:46 PM

yeah i edited that after i looked up the transcript.

perhaps richard is just picking new leaders for the others and the "i don't answer to them" quote is the same as how he helps locke become the leader (maybe?) behind ben's back.

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4/2/2009 3:32:45 PM

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"Glad Jack finally grew a fucking nut sack"

No...Jack's acting a lot like Locke and its disgusting

and the hurley/miles scene still left the topic open for debate. Faraday's "rules" were put to question, and nothing definitive came from it. It was just a funny 4th wall scene that the writers use the give some purpose to Hurley other than being the fat guy who doesn't lose weight when stranded on an island. time travel loop holes are still open

[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 7:44 PM. Reason : asdfghj]

[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 7:45 PM. Reason : asdfghj]

4/2/2009 7:40:13 PM

jack did the right thing, even though it sorta negates his whole hippocratic oath dealio.

4/2/2009 7:43:32 PM

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"time travel loop holes are still open"

Only if you don't believe Faraday

Or if you need the writers to go into superfluous detail about every aspect of the show

4/2/2009 7:52:35 PM

Why is Faraday the end all be all? HIs "rules" aren't even rules, just experiences he's interpreted...

You can't really believe anything on this show, you just have to go with the flow

[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 8:00 PM. Reason : asdfghj]

4/2/2009 7:57:38 PM

Locke is the messiah. Get used to it. He is Anubis' new chosen one. Jacob Incarnate.

All hail the gloriousness and the repeated Jedi ripoff scenes!

4/2/2009 8:30:33 PM

^^because:

1. Faraday is the fucking man, and
2. 'whatever happened, happened' makes a lot more sense than bttf style time ripples and paradoxes

4/2/2009 9:48:37 PM

i prefer to say "the island course corrects" over "whatever happened, happened"


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4/2/2009 10:19:02 PM

They even seemingly mocked the BTTF version of how events would work. I feel they've been rather clear about what happens has already and always will happen. I really don't see any loop holes that have been left open, and I don't believe its reasonable to expect a show to say "this is definitely whats going on for those of you who can't grasp it." even though they pretty much did that this week.

4/2/2009 10:36:43 PM

^^i'm pretty sure the course correction deal only applies to desmond. he tried to change the future with charlie, but charlie still ended up dying anyway.

like it's been said a million times before, the events that are unfolding have already happened. there is no course correction here. everyone's attempts to change the future actually result in the future they try to prevent (sayid shooting ben, jack refusing to save ben).

4/2/2009 11:04:30 PM

why hasn't ben mentioned that he's met all these people 30 years before hand?

you think it would come up

but he's more obsessed with the island

the only person to acknowledge time travel outside of the time travelers is Richard and Christian

4/2/2009 11:09:18 PM

How often does ben come out and in the open and tell what it is he knows.

If he remembered I would expect him to never mention it, because thats his personality.

4/2/2009 11:14:40 PM

I don't understand why everyone seems to be so obsessed with calling it a plot hole just because Ben didn't yell out "OMG YOU PEOPLE WERE ON TEH ISLAND WHEN I WAS A KID, OMGWTFBBQ~!!!!111!" the first time he saw them all in 2004. Since when has Ben's character been known as someone that revealed all the information that he has about something?

For someone who claims to be the gatekeeper to who's under and above the cloud, CharlieEFH keeps drifting dangerously close to falling under it with every post he makes.

4/2/2009 11:16:37 PM

all i know is last week you people were all "blah blah blah he knows who they are so that's why he knows everything about them"

and this week that richard guy was like "he's not gonna remember any of this"

4/2/2009 11:23:23 PM

ben goes back and lives with the DHARMA for several more years, so who's not to say he still won't remember the losties?

plus, richard didn't specify the extent of ben's memory loss.

4/2/2009 11:25:46 PM

eh, nevermind.

Even though I hate people that do this...

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4/2/2009 11:27:41 PM