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NyM410
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Lol

[Edited on October 9, 2016 at 10:36 AM. Reason : I'm sure elesuis fully supports his CP5 comments too]

[Edited on October 9, 2016 at 10:38 AM. Reason : Also, is it a revelation to say Clinton is desperately out of touch with middle class? No shit...]

10/9/2016 10:35:01 AM

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"Experienced politician says things that are true" vs "Unqualified moron bragging about sexual assault". Yup, the first is totally more damning.

10/9/2016 11:07:21 AM

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On one hand, I still can't believe people are trying to defend him. On the other, none of this is surprising and it's exactly why he's actually stood a chance to win.

10/9/2016 11:32:42 AM

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-sachs/hillary-is-the-candidate_b_9168938.html

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"There’s no doubt that Hillary is the candidate of Wall Street. Even more dangerous, though, is that she is the candidate of the military-industrial complex. The idea that she is bad on the corporate issues but good on national security has it wrong. Her so-called foreign policy “experience” has been to support every war demanded by the US deep security state run by the military and the CIA."

10/9/2016 11:39:20 AM

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Its hard to tell what is real from the HRC leaks because sites like breitbart are the only ones reporting the really bad stuff. The media has gone defcon five and mainstream media isn't showing much at all.

10/9/2016 1:57:09 PM

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fun game: I just googled some excerpts from hillary speeches and negative stories about trump came up first.

10/9/2016 2:05:38 PM

NyM410
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Breitbart and FNC were all over the bucket of losers speech that wasn't real so who knows.

[Edited on October 9, 2016 at 2:33 PM. Reason : Earl sucks though ]

10/9/2016 2:32:45 PM

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Their official response from Kaine seems to be that the leaked documents are inaccurate and somehow doctored by the russians. Well if those are fake speech leaks, then leak the real speeches so we can see what she really said.

10/9/2016 7:30:04 PM

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Interesting read about the media bias for those of you who are willing to venture out of your echo chambers. Some of you are triggered by other perspectives and won't dare click an RT link

https://www.rt.com/usa/362298-media-endorsing-hillary-clinton/
Yes I know the narrative is biased but the information is true.

10/10/2016 8:12:45 PM

UJustWait84
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Great slogan for a newspaper: "Biased, but True!"

10/10/2016 8:14:37 PM

NyM410
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^^ did you ever stop to consider that the man they are not endorsing has pissed all over them, foolishly threatened to sue them for libel, stoked his crowds anger on them and not so subtly made horrendously autocratic statements with regards to the media?

And for fucks sake citing RT is exactly the kind of thing you would do trying to bring up supposed media bias.

10/10/2016 8:21:13 PM

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ok fine lets leave it to the american media sources to tell us if american media sources are biased just like we let the food industry tell us if food is safe and wall street tell us if banking is fair. #americanlogic

10/10/2016 8:25:39 PM

UJustWait84
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clearly we should stop eating food, reading/thinking critically, and banking. these all have problems/flaws and it's best to just avoid them all together.

10/10/2016 8:29:35 PM

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bad analogy. If you're hungry for a food analogy then here is a good one.

Food's polls are nutritional "facts" which are "scientific" but also selectively omit the %DV for sugar because it would lead to an outcome that isn't favourable for corporate profits.



the answer is ~110%

[Edited on October 10, 2016 at 8:41 PM. Reason : yoooge]

10/10/2016 8:40:35 PM

UJustWait84
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hey, just trying to play logical hopscotch with you. or have we switched to double dutch?

10/10/2016 8:41:42 PM

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you brought something from another thread in here. I'm just trying to stay on topic.

10/10/2016 8:43:30 PM

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"clearly we should stop eating food, reading/thinking critically, and banking. these all have problems/flaws and it's best to just avoid them all together."


When did you start? lol

10/10/2016 10:36:45 PM

UJustWait84
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I've been insulted by a robot. My night is ruined.

10/10/2016 11:35:18 PM

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JCEbot vs HILbot

10/10/2016 11:40:19 PM

JCE2011
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So the pussy tape was released to bury Clinton's Wallstreet transcripts... telling the public one thing then doing whatever the banks want. Just like Trump's tape I don't think it tells us anything we don't already know about the candidates.

10/11/2016 2:39:19 PM

NyM410
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Nearly 100% certain Wikileaks drop only came after tape was released.

Maybe Assange is a Clinton plant though and told her in advance?

[Edited on October 11, 2016 at 3:35 PM. Reason : lol, every rally has a protestor yelling "Bill is a rapist" now]

10/11/2016 3:24:48 PM

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they did. JCE is so triggered he can't keep track of time

10/11/2016 3:41:07 PM

NyM410
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Oh, InfoWars is offering $5,000 to those who yell Bill is a rapist at rallies.

Are we past the point of no return with that type of site being mainstream?

http://www.infowars.com/expose-rapist-bill-clinton-win-5k/

[Edited on October 11, 2016 at 3:46 PM. Reason : Sad!]

10/11/2016 3:44:36 PM

Shrike
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Pretty succinct take on the Podesta hacks,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/10/11/what-the-latest-hacked-emails-really-tell-us-about-american-politics/?utm_term=.35b31a1b4106

tldr; there's nothing there and professional political operatives are often just as clueless as we are.

[Edited on October 11, 2016 at 4:07 PM. Reason : []

10/11/2016 4:07:19 PM

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"Oh, InfoWars is offering $5,000 to those who yell Bill is a rapist at rallies."


Lmao.

Watching the young Turks get triggered by Alex Jones and his rape shirt was 10/10

10/11/2016 4:53:25 PM

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"tldr; there's nothing there and professional political operatives are often just as clueless as we are"


that's a horrible tldr - these emails are hilarious. Podesta is hung up on UFOs, the director of the Clinton Foundation was so fed up with Chelsea and Bill that he contemplated suicide, Huma Abedin was getting hit on by another woman in the text of an email requesting to ride in the Limo with Hillary, other staffers referring to Hillary only as "S".

There's not much going on in the realm of scandal at this point, but you're depriving yourself from entertainment if you're ignoring these emails.

10/11/2016 6:05:26 PM

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My absentee ballot sat unopened for a week on my counter. After two bottles of wine, I opened it and filled in the box for Hillary fucking Clinton. Fuck me.

10/11/2016 9:28:05 PM

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Is triggered the new super annoying overused buzzword this week?

10/12/2016 3:26:28 PM

marko
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I'm around students all the time. They've been saying it constantly for like 2 years now.

That and "safe space."

And it doesn't matter which side is on, they say it as insults to each other.

10/13/2016 1:38:46 PM

Doss2k
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Ah so its just now finally made it to the old people.. got it! haha

10/13/2016 3:05:35 PM

JCE2011
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Lots of unaware and compliant citizens ITT.

#ImWithHer

10/13/2016 3:06:55 PM

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10/25/2016 7:42:31 PM

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10/25/2016 7:44:50 PM

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also, it's been 91 days since Trump held a press conference or talked to anyone nationally other than his butt buddies at Fox

[Edited on October 26, 2016 at 2:18 PM. Reason : .]

10/26/2016 1:56:04 PM

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Hillary supporters: I'm expecting a November surprise and want some upfront transparency.

Is there anything that could come out, that would cause you to retract your support from Hillary?

If you don't answer, that means there is nothing.

10/28/2016 2:15:02 AM

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Maybe if she takes off her face and she's really Zombie Reagan?

10/28/2016 8:31:56 AM

OopsPowSrprs
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The board of elections burning down since I already voted

10/28/2016 9:21:00 AM

ElGimpy
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It's fairly difficult to set a theoretical bar lower than where Trump has placed his

I guess I would have to find out that she is actually planning on deporting as many people as possible, wants to give women who get abortions public lashings, and set up internment camps for Muslims...among other things

10/28/2016 9:32:32 AM

Dentaldamn
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Jesus comes down from heaven and tells us she is the antichrist?

10/28/2016 9:34:46 AM

The E Man
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so you dont actually have any values as long as she is slightly better than trump shes youra?

[Edited on October 28, 2016 at 10:11 AM. Reason : my republican friends have answered the same way about trump so far]

10/28/2016 10:10:51 AM

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It's a question of which of two people I want to be in charge of the country, not a referendum on whether I like Clinton or not.

No matter how much I might hate everyone in the race, one of those two people will become president and I'm being asked which one is better.

[Edited on October 28, 2016 at 10:27 AM. Reason : asdf]

[Edited on October 28, 2016 at 10:27 AM. Reason : asdf]

10/28/2016 10:26:54 AM

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its a choice out of 3 or 4 who could become president.

this is a hypothetical and hypothetically you are saying you would vote for hillary even if she was a copy of trump but didn't want to deport illegal immigrants as long as she still had a d by her name.

can you at least now see why people are voting for trump and how this logic will open up the door for candidates who are even worse?

this means we could literally have two criminals running d and r and people would still vote for them

[Edited on October 28, 2016 at 11:00 AM. Reason : crying jordan]

10/28/2016 10:58:38 AM

NyM410
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It's a dumb question. If there was a realistic better option I'd examine it. No one here (except maybe Shrike) loves Clinton but when you have Trump and Stein as two of the alternatives what choice do you have.

Johnson has some desirable qualities and opinions but against.. isn't realistic. If I wasn't in a potential swing state I'd probably vote for him just so I can say I didn't like either of the two major party candidate.

But I'm not willing to take that chance.

[Edited on October 28, 2016 at 11:07 AM. Reason : I do think it's funny that Europeans Green Party leaders HATE Stein ]

10/28/2016 11:06:47 AM

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It's a choice of 3 or 4 people of who you want to vote for. It is absolutely not a choice of 3 or 4 people who could become president. If you truly believe Johnson or Stein has a chance of becoming president name the odds and bet $100...I'll give you whatever odds you want

Yes, I am hypothetically saying I would vote for a Trump clone that's slightly less bad if those are the only two real choices

I'm not going to argue whether it opens up the possibility of worse candidates because it makes no difference to me whatsoever. In no way would I ever want to open up the possibility of Trump becoming president just to send some kind of signal to the DNC that they probably won't actually pay attention to

[Edited on October 28, 2016 at 11:13 AM. Reason : sadf]

10/28/2016 11:12:39 AM

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"Is there anything that could come out, that would cause you to retract your support from Hillary?"


Sure. If she actually had people murdered. That's all I've got for you though.

10/28/2016 1:37:12 PM

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How is this not double jeopardy?

10/28/2016 2:31:23 PM

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Have to be charged and tried for double jeopardy.

10/28/2016 2:32:03 PM

UJustWait84
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charged, tried, and acquitted but yeah. LOL

10/28/2016 2:48:17 PM

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"linton but when you have Trump and Stein as two of the alternatives what choice do you have. "

still waiting for anyone to lay out why hillary's policies are superior to stein's. i'll be waiting forever.

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"If you truly believe Johnson or Stein has a chance of becoming president name the odds and bet $100...I'll give you whatever odds you want"

We can throw trump in there too by that logic. He's not going to win. Hillary clinton is going to win but only because of people like you who have literally been brainwashed and lost all control of your vote.

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" In no way would I ever want to open up the possibility of Trump becoming president just to send some kind of signal to the DNC that they probably won't actually pay attention to
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but you just said you would actually vote for trump himself as long as the republican candidate was worse. if david duke was the republican and trump was the democrat, americans like you would still see it as a binary choice. There is no bottom.

10/28/2016 4:47:05 PM

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Hillary: "You just heard Jennifer perform 'Let’s Get Loud.' Well I say, let’s get loud at the voting booth."

lol

10/30/2016 7:17:07 AM

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