ALL THOSE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL VOTES!!!!11one

1/25/2017 10:07:47 AM

If voting fraud were as rampant as suggested (millions of votes), then it should be a relatively small feat to support this with facts and evidence. Until that happens, then I will continue to regard Trump as a fucking liar undeserving of even the benefit of the doubt. You literally cannot believe the words coming from that man's mouth or thumbs without verifying first.

1/25/2017 10:09:28 AM

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"I You can only imagine how many leftist conservative propaganda sites JesusHChrist I must be indoctrinated by on a daily basis to have such a hysterical, paranoid view."

fify

[Edited on January 25, 2017 at 10:31 AM. Reason : ]

1/25/2017 10:30:55 AM

Where are we on CIA blacksites?

Are we supposed to pretend Trump isn't every bit as hawkish as his predecessors?

1/25/2017 10:36:16 AM

NO WORRIES, IT LOOKS LIKE HE'S ACTUALLY DOING A GOOD JOB SO FAR


this looks like a totally reasonable press release from a completely normal, well-adjusted president. everything is fine.

1/25/2017 11:11:21 AM

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"Trump may not be savvy enough to plan to the extent of Jesus' post, but with someone like Bannon in his ear..."

This is the point. Is Trump himself a highly calculating super villain? NO.

But has he risen to power off of a wave of nationalistic fear and demagoguery? YES.

Has he inherited a massive, unaccountable apparatus of state surveillance and militarism? YES

Did he send out his press secretary out on the first day to scold and reprimand the media and to declare official falsehoods? YES

Is he the kind of man who is willing to use all those tools to exact political scores? YES



Just because Trump himself is a bumbling, insecure bozo incapable of introspection or critical analysis does not lessen the power he wields, or the damage he is capable of.

1/25/2017 11:11:38 AM

I love how the goal posts keep shifting for "calm down, nothing has happened yet"
- Trump doing well in polls
- Trump getting nominated
- Trump continuing to stand by his birth certificate lie
- Trump admitting philandering and sexual assault
- Trump winning election
- Trump not divesting/recusing himself from conflicts of interest
- Trump selecting an self-avowed alt-right (white nationalist) leader as close advisor
- Trump selecting a conspiracy theorist as nat security advisor
- Trump selecting self-admitted people, and grossly unqualified people to head government agencies
- Trump shutting down science comms from public-funded research
- Trump coining the "alternative fact" term, for "lies", to describe his administrations justification for statements
- Trump putting out a press release about how great he is, ala Kim Jong Un

1/25/2017 11:23:08 AM

That press release reads like reviews for a book or movie.

$5 says he'll come out with a presser at some point declaring that he wants to revive the nations furniture manufacturing capability. For too long we've been importing cheap furniture from China. "I hear we have a lot of wood out there in the Redwood forest. Why are we just sitting on all those natural resources. All we do is drive there and go look at them. My executive action today will release all that timber for jobs. Jobs Jobs Jobs.

1/25/2017 11:33:11 AM

He's 100% obsessed with the media.

He is basically my dog. Just wants to be loved and petted.

1/25/2017 11:47:23 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/25/politics/trump-calls-for-major-investigation-into-voter-fraud/index.html

This voter fraud investigation is a reckless and irresponsible use of gov resources. There's literally no evidence this happened, the one initial claim was made by some crank on twitter who had no information, and the entire GOP up to the presidency ran with it.

It's literally the same thing as if someone on TWW made an outlandish claim and the president took it seriously.

This is completely nuts.

1/25/2017 11:48:34 AM

what if we impeached him, but did it in secret and let him think he was still president

1/25/2017 11:48:50 AM

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/us/politics/cia-detainee-prisons.html?_r=0

Black sites coming back (trying to at least)

So the US will soon be a country that:
- Blocks muslims refugees but lets Christians one in
- Blocks ALL travel from certain predominantly muslim countries
- Openly embraces torture
- Has a border wall (maybe)

[Edited on January 25, 2017 at 11:55 AM. Reason : ]

1/25/2017 11:53:41 AM

So is there anything that Trump has actually done that is objectively bad? Or are you guys just going to keep it at 10/10 partisan hack hysteria mode?

Please don't validate the integrity of our voting process! Please no! Oh god, making sure there isn't voter fraud? The horror!!!!

1/25/2017 11:55:46 AM

The first press conference of his administration was a 10 minute rant that contained 4-5 lies.

1/25/2017 12:05:57 PM

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"So is there anything that Trump has actually done that is objectively bad? "

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"So I think lying about the tax return is a big minus"

1/25/2017 12:57:51 PM

Yea, that's all I've got on my list.

I'm sure there is more, but it takes so long to filter out the legitimate problems from the giant cesspool of leftist hackery and shit-flinging in the media.

1/25/2017 1:22:06 PM

i already posted the reviews

the reviews are in, trump is doing great

1/25/2017 1:47:26 PM

Yea but unfortunately that praise is just as full of shit as your criticisms.

1/25/2017 2:14:25 PM

1/25/2017 2:23:30 PM

I didn't think that was real, until: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/25/praise-president-trumps-bold-action

1/25/2017 2:35:41 PM

I'd like to point out that 5 of the 6 sources for praise in that release are one journalist's twitter account, Sean Hannity, and three editorial boards.

1/25/2017 2:40:28 PM

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"Yea but unfortunately that praise is just as full of shit as your criticisms."

so everything is vanilla

1/25/2017 2:58:28 PM

To me his actions in the first few days have fallen into 2 categories:

1- Doing crazy shit like lying about his inauguration crowds, starting a war with the media for reporting facts (CIA rift for example), and saying there is massive voter fraud that would bring into question the basic legitimacy of our democracy.
2 - Doing the things he said he was going to do while campaigning.

So people that like Trump are going to say none of that shit in #1 really matters. But hey look how awesome it is that he is doing #2 because that's why I voted for him.

And folks left or center are saying holy shit this is a disaster not only is he doing #2 (which i hate) but he's also insane as evidenced by #1.

Soooo....I just realized I have no real point here.

1/25/2017 3:11:15 PM

so mnuchin and bannon are both registered to vote in 2 different places...

1/25/2017 3:26:40 PM

Which, of course, is no big deal and likely a simple oversight. Certainly don't think either not them was deliberately engaged in any wrongdoing.

[Edited on January 25, 2017 at 3:36 PM. Reason : So is his daughter.. it's also not illegal]

1/25/2017 3:35:04 PM

You guys realize your entire leftist narrative was that voter fraud doesn't exist, or was impossible...

yet you are so desperate to attack Trump with ANYTHING, that you push this irrelevant piece of information (He is registered twice, didn't vote twice)... while apparently remaining unaware that it undermines your initial stance of a flawless voting system.

lol

1/25/2017 3:40:11 PM

For what it's worth and to clarify for anyone who might care, my stance has always been, since the beginning, that in-person voter fraud is nearly non-existent.

[Edited on January 25, 2017 at 3:43 PM. Reason : Grammar]

1/25/2017 3:42:54 PM

I can understand not thinking it is a problem.

But I can't understand adamantly opposing something that would validate that it is not...

1/25/2017 3:53:34 PM

that's already been done. countless times.

i can't understand a fiscal conservative supporting a huge waste of taxpayers money for something that has been proven to not be a problem.

1/25/2017 3:59:21 PM

I do have to give Trump some credit.

Everything he promised (even bringing back torture apparently), though almost all abhorrent and dangerous, he is doing. I guess that is what you want of a guy if you voted for him.

[Edited on January 25, 2017 at 4:03 PM. Reason : Of course things like 5% GDP growth and 25m jobs are nonsense but policy i mean]

1/25/2017 4:02:21 PM

Are you referring to people opposed to him ordering an investigation into voter fraud because it's unnecessary and expensive? Outside of the money, there's another big reason for this:

Less than a week into his presidency he's already lied multiple times to the American public (you've even admitted as such). So I would be very wary of him ordering any "research" on voter fraud only for it to turn out that, shockingly, he found TONS OF IT, and will then push for tighter voter laws that happen to affect poor people the most..you know, coincidentally

1/25/2017 4:03:01 PM

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"Which, of course, is no big deal and likely a simple oversight. Certainly don't think either not them was deliberately engaged in any wrongdoing. [Edited on January 25, 2017 at 3:36 PM. Reason : So is his daughter.. it's also not illegal]"

Of course but trump and his supporters aren't going to grasp this detail.

1/25/2017 4:12:45 PM

Like you still can't grasp the hypocrisy of claiming the voting system is flawless while pointing out a flaw in the voting system.

1/25/2017 4:21:17 PM

LoL at that press release

[Edited on January 25, 2017 at 4:48 PM. Reason : ]

1/25/2017 4:48:08 PM

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"BREAKING: Trump administration mandating EPA scientific studies, data undergo review by political staff before public release."

Any chance this means PhDs? Or at least any scientific background?

1/25/2017 4:58:36 PM

^ lol you're kidding right.

Isn't the government systematically filtering scientific information to suit an agenda what literal, actual fascism is?

1/25/2017 5:12:16 PM

The point is that this is what Trump is referring to when he says there is massive amounts of voter fraud. He specifically mentioned people registered in two states... then turns out several people close to him meet that very definition. No one is saying that there isn't some voter fraud and sure it would be nice to fix that. However, Trump doesn't care about actual voter fraud... he cares that people don't think he is the BEST and is willing to burn through taxpayer money just to satisfy his ego and is only going to realize he is wrong and never admit it or simply lie about it straight up and say he doesn't have to provide actual proof.

1/25/2017 5:43:05 PM

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"But I can't understand adamantly opposing something that would validate that it is not... "

Any other time you'd be expressing concerns about COST. Funny how you suddenly forget those concerns here.

But muh narrative!.

1/25/2017 6:33:59 PM

Cost about what? I've been critical about wealth redistribution, not tax dollars going to something that is actually required for our nation to exist.

Nice try though

1/25/2017 6:49:59 PM

Cost about what? Seriously? The cost to search for voter fraud, dumbass.

Unless you have an idea of how that can be done for free....

1/25/2017 6:52:40 PM

This is hilarious to watch the liberal press go nutso.

He is going crazy with his campaign promises, and when he is announcing him, he drops a "my crowd was bigger" and "illegals voted illegally".



Meanwhile....he's getting S#1T done MAGA.

[Edited on January 25, 2017 at 7:22 PM. Reason : meanwhile]

1/25/2017 7:21:42 PM

Remember when the liberals were the one screaming voter fraud and the Russians had stole the election. Now they are against looking into voter fraud. smh

1/25/2017 7:39:04 PM

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"Remember when the liberals were the one screaming voter fraud"

No.

1/25/2017 7:40:47 PM

Hey JCE how much longer until you start telling us all how culture mixing is the failed policy of the left, America is a White European nation who needs to protect her identity, and minorities need to self segregate and repatriate back to their homelands peacefully before the government has to do it for them.

If you're already there and I've missed it I apologize for not reading through the whole backlog of horseshit you spout on a regular basis.

And if you don't feel this way then please feel free to denounce the above stance and any who hold it.

1/25/2017 8:12:15 PM

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"Remember when the liberals were the one screaming voter fraud"

When was this?

1/25/2017 9:02:46 PM

The conservatives in this thread are weak cucks

1/25/2017 9:08:36 PM

Huh???

1/25/2017 9:44:17 PM

Trump is going on a journey to find a needle in a hay stack and at the end of the journey he's going claim the all the goddamn hay proves the pin exists.

1/25/2017 9:54:35 PM

I don't think 'the liberals' every claimed voter fraud. Election fraud sure, but that's an entirely different ballgame.

1/25/2017 9:55:17 PM

The fact people are confusing the two is troubling.

1/25/2017 9:57:02 PM