horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Funderburk has to stop committing 2 dumb fouls each game. He needs to start the game like he already has 3 because you;re going to get a few tough calls every game. 2/22/2020 5:30:22 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
BB was fouled on the possession before, bringing the ball up court. And Kells was fouled there with no call. Definitely a foul...got him with the body. 2/22/2020 5:32:07 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
No foul on Bryce getting tackled on the rebound lol 2/22/2020 5:33:42 PM |
dalecooter All American 524 Posts user info edit post |
Funderburke checking back in I’ll wager he lasts 3 minutes at most 2/22/2020 5:35:11 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
It stands to reason that FSU didn’t rack up many fouls while playing zone. But the refs have been pretty shitty over the last 4-5 mins. 2/22/2020 5:37:15 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Disengaged Markell is always an insta loss. 2/22/2020 5:47:40 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
I thought he played fairly well...in the first half especially. He didn’t have a lights out shooting game, but i thought he was fine. DJF having 4 fouls and Dixon having to play and lack of rebounding has killed us. 2/22/2020 5:49:42 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
He’s passed and stood still the entire game. 2/22/2020 5:51:05 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
Being unable to attack the zone for 5 mins to open the half and giving up so many second chance points is what lost the game 2/22/2020 5:53:08 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
There should have been a press break implemented. Markell had to dribble the ball up against the press for 15 seconds each possession in the second half. Then, with the clock running down, had to start the offense.
It was a good game but FSU adjusted at halftime and we didn't adjust to their adjustments. 2/22/2020 5:53:25 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
Kinda bullshit 5th foul on Funderburk there. Given what they haven’t called on FSU today, that shouldn’t have been a foul either. 2/22/2020 5:54:59 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
FSU can go 11 deep. We’re playing Danny Dixon and Max Farthing. 2/22/2020 5:59:30 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
Missed goal tend. Lol these refs. 2/22/2020 6:00:17 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Wow both teams have completely choked away the final minute 2/22/2020 6:01:19 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
Is FSU 1/8 on FTs this final minute? 2/22/2020 6:01:50 PM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12507 Posts user info edit post |
Dammit Farting 2/22/2020 6:02:17 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
So they missed 7/8 fts down the stretch and we answered by scoring zero points and didn’t even attempt a 3.
[Edited on February 22, 2020 at 6:05 PM. Reason : D] 2/22/2020 6:03:54 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
Bryce and Markell combined 5/22 today. 2/22/2020 6:05:07 PM |
DROD900 All American 24654 Posts user info edit post |
Did Bates not have a single rebound? Wtf 2/22/2020 6:12:22 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Rebound margin was only 45-36? Felt worse. 2/22/2020 6:13:08 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " So they missed 7/8 fts down the stretch and we answered by scoring zero points and didn’t even attempt a 3. " |
Daniels made a layup during that stretch. And we attempted a 3 right after a DD’s made 3 and Hellems’ stolen inbounds pass with 90 seconds left. But yes, overall that was some shitty basketball in the final 90 seconds. They finished that stretch 3/10 on FTs. We score 4 points over that stretch
[Edited on February 22, 2020 at 6:16 PM. Reason : That stretch also featured a very obvious missed goal tend on FSU that shoulda given us 2 points ]2/22/2020 6:14:00 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Bates had 0 rebounds, and 0 points. 2/22/2020 6:14:13 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Don’t know what I’d do without you , DMS.
Fuck it. We lost to a final four caliber team at home by 5. I’ll take the duke/FSU split. 2/22/2020 6:22:27 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Fuck it. We lost to a final four caliber team at home by 5. I’ll take the duke/FSU split." |
Yeah...shitty way to lose because this felt like a really winnable game. But you’re right. Beating 2 top 10 teams back to back is a really tall order. Shouldn’t be too surprising we lost. But damn...this game felt like it was there for the taking and we just didn’t capitalize. That ~5 min stretch of zone to start the half was bad. And we couldn’t get much rhythm after that...Kells and Bryce were off. DJ couldn’t get going since he was on the bench with foul trouble. Hell, in some ways it seems impressive we kept it so close with Kells and Bryce combining 5/22 and DJ limited with foul trouble2/22/2020 6:29:09 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Lol I stayed in the arena until Keatts on court interview with Gary and Tony. He’s so salty over the officiating.
[Edited on February 22, 2020 at 6:29 PM. Reason : D] 2/22/2020 6:29:12 PM |
dalecooter All American 524 Posts user info edit post |
We shot 10 free throws in the first half and three in the second. Keatts sort of called out the officials in his post game interview 2/22/2020 6:29:30 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Sorta? Lol 2/22/2020 6:30:05 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
When KK got T’d up, I thought they had missed 2 obvious fouls back to back on FSU but otherwise hadn’t been terrible. And then I got salty about the refs from that point on. So I honestly don’t even know how bad they were because I was a few Modelos in and very upset that things were going south for us. 2/22/2020 6:31:29 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
From PP twitter.
Quote : | " Kevin Keatts on FSU loss: "I'll just say this, it's going to be tremendously hard when a team shoots 29 free throws and you get 13. ... They made more free throws than we shot. That makes it hard."" |
I mean...we have them 10 FTs by my count when we were fouling on purpose at the end. So 19-13 FTs doesn’t seem nearly as bad.2/22/2020 6:35:37 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Most if not all the fouls called on us were legit. They just didn’t call shit on FSU in the second half. 2/22/2020 6:35:57 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah that’s fair. Kinda felt like playing UVa where they play hard and aggressive D, basically daring the ref to call a foul every time...and the refs aren’t gonna do that 2/22/2020 6:39:36 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
Keatts needs to recruit better fans, amirite 2/22/2020 6:56:44 PM |
rayef3rw All American 903 Posts user info edit post |
10 minutes in to the 2nd half FSU had had 1 foul called on them while they were in bonus. First half was the exact other way around. If we would have started on the other end of the court we could have won that game with the way momentum and the foul calling worked 2/22/2020 6:57:24 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I lol’d. 2/22/2020 7:02:04 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
^ Pm sent 2/22/2020 7:02:45 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27783 Posts user info edit post |
Just got back from the game. That technical Keatts got for protesting the complete lack of fouls at the rim really worked. Pretty sure we got exactly 0 calls at the rim afterwards.
I agree that almost all the fouls on us were legit fouls (that one on hellems on a fast break sure looked like he didn't touch the guy), but they were absolutely mauling our guys with no calls in the second half. That and that big goofy #15 was holding Funderburk with both arms literally every defensive possession he was in the game and never once got a foul called for it. Also the myriad of missed travels. Refs are the dumbest people on the planet. 2/22/2020 8:38:23 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
I too think refs are dumb. 2/22/2020 8:39:27 PM |
natureboy All American 2799 Posts user info edit post |
Bryce threw up some terrible shots, Markell was off on his scoring and bates and Funderburk sat with foul trouble most of the 2nd half. Hellems stepped up but surprised we kept it fairly close with so many subpar games. Did they say we went like 10 minutes with one field goal? That is unacceptable, even if FSU is super athletic. 2/22/2020 10:38:00 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37585 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Giglio:
Quote : | "The constant there is FSU likes to play in such a way that they force the officials to call every foul, which of course, they're not going to do " |
2/22/2020 10:52:12 PM |
rayef3rw All American 903 Posts user info edit post |
I'd like to point out to a certain someone that a) the fans got up for a game that wasn't against UNC/Duke and b) fans stayed even when it was obvious we'd lose, still making some noise.
So I guess our fans can get into non-rivalry games. Interesting. 2/23/2020 10:04:32 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Who else is going to chapel hill Tuesday? Let's take the damn place over
Also what is their vuvuzela policy? 2/23/2020 4:02:55 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27783 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty sure artificial noisemakers are not allowed by conference rule. 2/23/2020 4:16:37 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
That's unfortunate 2/23/2020 4:29:18 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd like to point out to a certain someone that a) the fans got up for a game that wasn't against UNC/Duke and b) fans stayed even when it was obvious we'd lose, still making some noise.
So I guess our fans can get into non-rivalry games. Interesting.
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Thanks for this. The fact that they can get into non-rivalry games makes it evident that fans have an "on off" switch. They need to start turning it "on" more consistently. Its almost like they are choosing to give the team an edge for certain games and choosing not to for others.
[Edited on February 23, 2020 at 8:41 PM. Reason : so its not chicken egg]2/23/2020 8:41:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
UNC has won 13 of the last 14 games in Raleigh. I wish our fans wanted to beat UNC like they want to beat Duke. 2/23/2020 8:46:32 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
It’s almost like cheering for a perpetually mediocre team isn’t easy and the fan turnout can be inconsistent!
[Edited on February 23, 2020 at 9:28 PM. Reason : Sorry for taking the bait] 2/23/2020 9:27:41 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
I hope we don't have any Bill Russell types in our fanbase
https://www.nba.com/article/2020/02/23/bill-russell-dons-kobe-jersey-lakers-game 2/23/2020 9:53:37 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
While I agree that the officiating was uneven, it wasn't what caused us to lose. We had to do better against FSUs zone in the first 5 minutes of the second half. KK should have called a TO during the second possession of the half, when it was obvious that we had been taken off guard.
Anyway. Gotta win 3 of the last 4 for any chance of staying on the bubble. Otherwise, we will need to win at least three in Gboro.
[Edited on February 24, 2020 at 9:22 AM. Reason : We aint winning 3 of @UNC, @Duke, Pitt, Wake] 2/24/2020 9:20:53 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37585 Posts user info edit post |
The home games are required the away games are prob more negotiable. If we do that it's likely we're still top half. Win the first acc game and we're prob last four in territory, beat one of the top 4 and we're in easy I think.
Our SOS is way better then last year and our quad 1 is better too. Quad 2 is worse but I think Giglio showed they barely looked at 2/3 last season (st John's). We really need Wisconsin to stay quad 1 I think. 2/24/2020 10:55:58 AM |
Kickstand All American 11564 Posts user info edit post |
Going to be a real nail-biter!
2/24/2020 1:28:16 PM |