surely you can do some research to find out how much power its using folding...if nobody can find anything i'll try to find some figures later.

5/15/2007 2:26:31 PM

Quote :

"What is FahMon? FahMon is a handy utility that can help you keep track of your folding progress of one or more computers that are on a network. It works with both the console and graphical version of the folding application."

http://www.overclock.net/faqs/71068-how-use-fahmon-monitor-my-folding.html
http://fahmon.silent-blade.org/

5/15/2007 3:06:05 PM

Quote :

"What is the power consumption of the PS3 running the FAH client? Is it safe to run the PS3 24X7? We expect the PS3 to use about 200W while running Folding@Home. We have several PS3's running in our lab, running Folding@Home 24/7 and have had good results so far. "

http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-PS3.html

5/15/2007 9:32:27 PM

assuming a constant 200W use, at our current cost of around 9 cents per kWh, it costs around $12 per month to have your PS3 folding 24X7. i'd call that a small price to pay for helping cure cancer

5/16/2007 12:19:40 AM

pretty cool site: its a database of folding stats including average PPD values per different processors per project
http://fahinfo.org/index.php

5/16/2007 9:31:43 AM

Also remember that the cost for folding on a PS3 at 200W for a month is assuming you never use it to play games etc. Also, I wonder how many Watts it uses in standby mode for a better comparison?

5/16/2007 4:18:51 PM

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Support cancer research and the NCSU Wolfpack by donating your CPU cycles!

If you're like most people you've got a computer that spends alot of time idling on a blank screen or running a cool screensaver. Did you know it's possible to donate your spare cycles to directly support Cancer, Alzheimer's, and Cystic Fibrosis research using the Folding@home client?

The NCSU Wolfpack Folding@home team was recently ranked as high as 98th in the world but we were just knocked out of the top 100. While our team has had much success in the past, if we don't get some new PCs and PS3s running soon we'll keep moving farther down the ladder

Got a PS3? PS3s are currently providing over 60% of the processing power in the Folding network. If you have one watch the video below to see how easy it is to setup the client and help the NCSU Wolfpack Folding team.



Links:

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding_at_home

Official Stanford Folding@home Website
http://folding.stanford.edu/

NCSU Wolfpack Folding@home Website
http://www.fah.genejockeys.com

Wolfweb Thread
/message_topic.aspx?topic=118820

NCSU Team Stats Page
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=

Folding Forums
http://forum.folding-community.org/forums.html

Download The Client Here:
http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html
We recommend using the "No-nonsense text-only" client for most computers. For multi-core systems, the SMP client will get you and the team far more points than the traditional client (but it doesn't start as a service, so you'll have to restart the client manually or automatically when your computer restarts). If you have a Pentium 4 with Hyperthreading, its best to turn off Hyperthreading in the BIOS if you know how. If you have an ATI X1800 or X1900 series graphics card you can even run Folding@home on your graphics card (with great results).

Installation Instructions
Enter a Username
Enter Team [59] (thats the important part)
Launch automatically at machine startup, installing this as a service [yes]
Ask before fetching/sending [no]
Use internet explorer settings [no]
Use Proxy [no] (unless you want to use a proxy)
Allow receipt of work assignments and return of work results greater than 5MB [yes]
Change Advanced Options: [no]

The folding client will run in the background as a service at low priority and won't interfere with your work/fun or slow down your computer at all. And you can run as many PC and PS3 clients you want under your username to contribute to your points and to the team points. If you have any questions feel free to contact me or any other member of the team.

5/17/2007 12:53:52 AM

ttt

5/21/2007 2:08:25 AM

Just got my ps3 up and running F@H for NCSU....

5/22/2007 2:00:11 AM

^ Welcome, we need every PC and PS3 to get the team back into the top 100.

5/22/2007 8:32:05 AM

I just b0rg-ed two new machines this week. w00t w00t. 90% usage of one core of a dual core proc. that oughtta help somewhat.

5/22/2007 11:07:59 PM

Why not, I'm in.

5/23/2007 2:21:25 PM

^^ mad props.
^ welcome!

As you all can see by looking here:
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59

within a couple weeks we'll be down to 105th place...and we'll keep on moving down unless we can turn it around Let try get as many PCs + PS3s folding as we can. I think it'd be awesome if we could break back into the top 100 at some point.

5/23/2007 2:48:00 PM

i do have a question though, i just started it up and it's saying the WU will be done in august. I've got a 2.4 Ghz processor going 100%. Is this just a really big WU or should I look further in to this?

5/23/2007 2:55:02 PM

yeat thats not right. assuming the computer is on all day and you arent encoding video or something, it should take 1-5 days to complete a work unit.
Sometimes the ETAs are off when you just start working on a WU. Give it an hour or two and then see what it says. Are you running the graphical client?

5/23/2007 3:00:51 PM

Yeah, im running the graphical client. Have there been problems with it?

5/23/2007 4:27:35 PM

no i just assumed you were running it since the standard console client doesn't show an estimated finish time.

does it still say august as the estimated completion date?

i would try install the console client with the instructions above, i know that one works fine.

if all else fails, the folding forums are a great place to get folding support...people there can figure stuff out pretty quickly. http://forum.folding-community.org/forums.html

5/23/2007 4:39:22 PM

Just checked it out and now it's saying June 7th. Still a heafy amount of time, but at least now it's within the deadline.

5/23/2007 4:42:06 PM

it might continue decreasing. are you running a Celeron or a regular Pentium 4?

Does it say what core/project you're working on?

5/23/2007 5:20:38 PM

It dropped again, down to this saturday now. I'm running a Pentium 4 and working on GROMACS core

5/23/2007 5:25:10 PM

That sounds better. You should be getting through these current WUs within 3 days (at the most).

Some people say the console client is a bit faster though, since it takes CPU power to run the visual simulation. I would think the difference is negligible...but i have no idea.

5/23/2007 5:33:51 PM

I do have the graphical client on one of my machines. I think the difference in performance is negligable. Unfortunatly the graphical client does not support multiple CPUs, running as a service, etc.

5/23/2007 9:35:43 PM

i'm in... my home machine has a lot of downtime when i'm on my 36 hour shifts... what the heck

5/25/2007 12:17:52 AM

^ Welcome!

We had our best day in a long time yesterday, nearly 22K points. Lets keep the momentum going!

5/25/2007 4:58:35 PM

bttt

5/28/2007 7:46:50 PM

so, which client is better as far as points/WUs: linux or windows?

5/28/2007 8:37:45 PM

Windows tends to run better for me, unfortunately.

If anyone has extra parts/machines they want to get rid of on the cheap, I'm looking to get another folding machine running. Currently my 3ghz laptop runs day and night, my work laptop runs when I'm there, and I have a desktop that should be doing well but runs like shit and is on 24/7.

5/28/2007 8:54:58 PM

I have an ATI AIW Radeon card that I would let go for cheap if that helps. I probably have a small HDD lying around too.


[Edited on May 28, 2007 at 9:49 PM. Reason : .]

5/28/2007 9:48:53 PM

If the Radeon will run with the GPU client, I'll find something to run it in

5/28/2007 10:36:27 PM

Sorry, it is a Radeon 9000 otherwise I would be folding on it.

5/28/2007 10:44:03 PM

I think the GPU client only runs on the ATI x1800 and x1900 cards

5/28/2007 10:44:07 PM

No prob. I may still have use for it if it's a PCI. I'm trying to upgrade the currently shitty desktop.

5/28/2007 10:47:11 PM

i think i have some old video cards, i could give you one since youre building a folding rig

you want pci or agp?

5/28/2007 11:38:01 PM

^^It's PCI. We also have 8 new members in the last 7 days.
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5/29/2007 6:42:57 AM

its strange...we have all those new members but our overall points are falling off a little. maybe they'll come back up

5/29/2007 7:34:59 AM

Quote :

"I think the GPU client only runs on the ATI x1800 and x1900 cards "

X1600 as well and any FireStream 2U gfx cards

5/29/2007 7:56:53 AM

For the one I'm working on right now, I need a PCI. I'm just looking for something that I can use in it to actually play games and do graphics-intensive things, problem is, it won't do AGP or PCI-e. It has a crappy Intel integrated GPU and a P4 processor, so for me, folding is about the only thing it's good for ATM.

I'm going to start on a monster dual-core rig sometime in June, and I'm sure that will do nice things for my folding stats.

5/29/2007 10:37:29 AM

^ I'll know for a fact I have a few older PCI video cards. PM me sometime when you want to pick one up (I'm near NCSU)

I know Core2Duo machines are excellent folders. Something tells me they're better than alot of the X2 procs, but I'm not sure. Currently the biggest spec to look at for folding purposes is the amount of L2 cache...I think some of the C2D machines have 4MB caches which means great folding numbers.

5/29/2007 11:10:08 AM

Hope this doesn't get me in trouble with work.

5/29/2007 3:47:21 PM

I don't see how it could. There isn't that much network activity (only occasional downloads and uploads), mostly just using the local processor of a machine.

5/29/2007 4:01:55 PM

Are the C2D's really better at all? I haven't been able to find anything definitive.

I was planning on building around one of these barebone kits -
AMD - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3017995&CatId=332
INTEL -
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3119027&Sku=A458-1166%20A

Input? The first is dual 2.0Ghz + 1Mb cache, the second is 2.13 Ghz + 2Mb cache.

5/29/2007 4:14:33 PM

I've done a good amount of reading on the folding forums, and they all say that the larger the L2 cache on these multi-core processors, the better folders they are.


Heres a thread where they talk about best bang for the $ processors.
http://forum.folding-community.org/ftopic19833.html

5/29/2007 4:50:27 PM

Thanks. Having looked at that, I'm pretty convinced my initial direction was wrong. I think I'll buy proc + mobo separate and build from scratch, get a nice video card, and use everything else from what I have. The C2D E6320 is pretty nice, they say it can be overclocked to 3.0 stable, plus it has 4Mb L2, which seems to make all the difference in folding.

5/29/2007 5:29:27 PM

Quote :

"I don't see how it could. There isn't that much network activity (only occasional downloads and uploads), mostly just using the local processor of a machine."

Well technically I'd be poking a hole in the firewall for non-work related reasons. I don't think there is much risk of a virus or anything, just saying.

5/29/2007 6:00:07 PM

Oh ok, you have to open a port.

5/29/2007 6:00:55 PM

yeah not a big deal (I just won't tell them ). username is same as my tdub one.

Question: I'm running the console version (not as a service), it doesn't seem to take input, do I have to do anything special when I shut down the machine? Any special settings if I'm not going to leave it running all the time?

And yes I know there is a FAQ, just thought I'd ask real quick here.

5/29/2007 6:22:39 PM

I'm new to all this and just installed the graphical client on my pc. I'm running a core 2 duo 6600 overclocked to 3.4ghz. It says "WU end: 260 days!!!!" This can't be right right? I think someone said to leave it alone for a while and it'll get a better estimate. I also have an 8800gtx running, will the gpu increase any performance?

5/29/2007 6:27:37 PM

Quote :

"Question: I'm running the console version (not as a service), it doesn't seem to take input, do I have to do anything special when I shut down the machine? Any special settings if I'm not going to leave it running all the time?"

Well if you're not going to run it as a service, then you have to restart the folding program everytime you start your computer. You can do this manually by creating a shortcut to fah.exe on your desktop and clicking it everytime you start your pc (which might be hard to remember), or place a shortcut in your startup folder (part of your start menu) which will start fah.exe everytime you start our pc. And if you get sick of having a DOS window open all the time, use a program called TrayIT to make it do to your system tray.

Most people just install it as a service to make it easier, but you can just use a shortcut to start it up too.

Quote :

"I'm new to all this and just installed the graphical client on my pc. I'm running a core 2 duo 6600 overclocked to 3.4ghz. It says "WU end: 260 days!!!!" This can't be right right? I think someone said to leave it alone for a while and it'll get a better estimate. I also have an 8800gtx running, will the gpu increase any performance? "

Yeah just give it some time and it should come down. That processor (the C2D 6600) is an excellent folding processor btw. And the GPU client can only (currently) be ran on newer ATI cards.

5/29/2007 6:36:12 PM

Yup the WU went down to under 10 hours after like 10 minutes running. That means i can do a few WU's a day!

5/29/2007 6:40:25 PM

^If you dont mind, run FoldMon 2.2 to see how many PPD (Points Per Day) your machine will be producing.
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/71068-how-use-fahmon-monitor-my-folding.html
http://fahmon.silent-blade.org/

Oh and are you running the SMP client, or the normal one?

5/29/2007 6:41:50 PM