I just remembered that there is still a pregnant lady on the island to do research on: SUN

juliette is probably there to capture sun...aka load her onto the chopper

4/12/2007 6:05:35 PM

SPOILER POSSIBLY FJOWEJF






I bet it's the Dharma creators in the helicopter. I read somewhere that they were having an episode. I also read that Ben is central character in the season finale.

4/12/2007 7:34:16 PM

A co worker sent me this, thought you guys might enjoy:

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"THE TEASE! In which we usually ask the producers of Lost to give us a coy clue about the contents of tonight's episode? But not today. As it happens, executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse are immersed writing the two-hour season finale — so I'm not going to pester them this week for a preview. Instead, your tease will come from... me. Yep, I've seen tonight's episode. What can I say? The episode is filled with sharp writing, stunning cinematography, and great performances. It is a weird, wicked, wonderful hour of television. I loved it. Come back tomorrow, when I'll recap it for you in the TV Watch column. To get you in the right mindset for tonight's episode, we're going to dote on a single theme today, one I will summarize thusly: SUFFER THE CHILDREN Exploring the Others' creepy fixation with kids, with a revealing clarification about the Numbers by Carlton Cuse, exec producer of Lost! A very timely e-mail arrived this week from Nameless, an intelligent but shy young woman who prefers I not use her real name. She writes: ''Hi, Jeff. Basically, I think the Others are totally obsessed with babies. [My theory is that] the Others pushed Kate and Sawyer together. Kate had sex with Sawyer and could possibly be pregnant now. The Others made sure that Jack saw them and drove a wall between Jack and Kate, ensuring that he probably won't be having sex with her — at least for a while. Juliet has been 'left behind' with Kate. Juliet is a fertility doctor. Is she watching after their pregnant ex-captive? ''I felt that Sawyer's reaction to hearing he had a child (in his flashback) was one of a man who knew that could not possibly be true. I think he's sterile and he knows it. However, the island has a way of curing such problems. Jin was sterile and now Sun is pregnant. Sawyer isn't sterile anymore, either. Sawyer also had sex with Ana Lucia. She could have been pregnant, too. Thanks for your time!'' DOC JENSEN REPLIES: Do I get some creepy e-mails or what? But Nameless is indeed onto something. Without spoiling anything more about tonight's episode, consider these long-standing Lost questions pertaining to the kid issue: 1. WHY DO THE OTHERS KIDNAP KIDS? Answer: Extortion. The Others clearly want something from the castaways. Lines from Juliet and Ben from earlier in the season suggest that free will — or the illusion of free will — is important to the Others. It could be that the Others are setting the castaways up to willingly surrender... whatever it is that they want. However, clearly the concern that is driving the Others is a matter of life and death. Kidnapping the kids gives them a powerful weapon should all else fail. ''Give us what we want — or the pups die.'' 2. WHAT WAS THE PURGE? Answer: Eugenics. Purge is a cleansing word. So is sterilization. And ultraviolet germicidal irradiation is a collection of words to describe the process of using bursts of electromagnetic energy to purge objects of unwanted microbes. Now, violet is very close to purple — and as Lost likes to remind us almost every week, the sky turned purple when the Hatch imploded. So: What if Dharma wanted to harness the ''unique'' electromagnetic energy of the Island and apply it to human beings for the purpose of (gulp) sterilizing them? What if the Others were the guinea pigs And if all this is true, did the Purple Discharge basically neuter some or even everyone on the Island? Creepy. But why would Dharma want to do something so sick? Because of the answer to this question: 3. WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS? Answer: The end of the world. Or a prediction of the end of the world, to be more precise. Last summer, during the Internet-based alternate reality game known as ''The Lost Experience,'' it was revealed that the Numbers were a mathematical formula developed to determine the life expectancy of the planet. Each number in the sequence pertains to a variable that's likely to factor into Earth's demise — including overpopulation. ''The Lost Experience'' also disclosed that the reason why the Dharma Initiative set up shop on the Island was to develop the means to save the world. Their simple plan was that, if they could change just one of those Numbers — turn that 4 into a 5, for example — then the Earth wouldn't succumb to catastrophe. When you consider the overall plot of ''The Lost Experience,'' a theory really starts to come into focus. The story involved a last-gasp scheme by the Hanso Foundation, financiers of the Dharma Initiative, to alter the Numbers and save the world through population modification — a euphemism for mass murder. A curious tidbit that was never explained was that Hanso was endeavoring to kill only ''precise genetic targets.'' THEORY: Dharma was trying to use the electromagnetic energy to sterilize these ''precise genetic targets'' in hopes of reducing the world's population over time and thus stave off global self-destruction. Given the themes of redemption and damnation on Lost, I'm guessing that the victims here would be defined simply as irredeemable people. In other words: What if Dharma was trying to neuter all the bad people in the world? A CLARIFICATION FROM CARLTON CUSE: Since the end of ''The Lost Experience,'' many people have wondered whether the explanation for the Numbers provided by the game stands as the official explanation of the Numbers on the show itself. Last week, I asked Carlton Cuse about this. Here's his response: ''Yes, that does remain the official answer. Of course, it doesn't explain their apparent power, but that falls into the realm of mystery and magic.'' DOC JENSEN INTERPRETATION: Yes, the Numbers started out as an equation predicting the end of the world — but here on the Island, a place sensitive to psychic energy and pulsing with apparent supernatural power, it's very possible that ''the Numbers,'' as an entity, became something different altogether. Could the story of the Dharma Initiative be the ironic tale of a dubious doomsday theory that became a very real, very dangerous self-fulfilling prophecy? Wow. This column sure is getting creepier by the word, isn't it? LINK OF THE WEEK! Within the wild, weird world of Lost Theorydom, there is a popular conjecture expressed in many different forms that I like to call the Mutant Hothouse Hypothesis. Basically, it's the idea that the Dharma Initiative was trying to cultivate psychic powers in its test subjects, many of whom might have been children. Some of the freakiest — er, I mean, best minds in the Lost Fan Nation subscribe to this theory, including the legendary Andrew Smith, hotshot newcomer Todd Hostager, and the gentleman I'd like you to meet today, a dude named Bigmouth. He runs a Lost blog called Eye M Sick, and his psychic-kids theory can be found here. Check it out. It's entertaining, well-reasoned, and even comes with visual reference! But here's the nagging question that I have about this psychic-kids business: WHY? Why would Dharma want to create a generation of superpowered people? To create super-soldiers? Eh. Maybe. Not very original, though, unless Lost has a unique spin on the idea. Perhaps the Dharma karma cops were trying to meld Children of the Corn with The Brothers Karamazov to create a priestly class of adolescent, parent-hating Grand Inquisitors charged with purging the world of bad adults. (Sorry, Dad: You're a workaholic who neglects his family. Go to hell! ZAP!) It's not that I'm skeptical of the psychic-kids idea. Clearly, the notion is in play thanks to the one-season wonderboy that was Walt. But I really haven't seen any theory born out of a deep interface with the Dharma Initiative mythos (i.e., how do psychic kids change the equation of the Numbers), or out of a deep interface with the essential themes of the show itself. To that end, allow me to make a suggestion, one designed to spur further scholarship: Think thematically. In my opinion, the essential themes of Lost have been succinctly expressed in two ways: the recurring mantra ''Live together, die alone'' and Charlie's song ''We All Everybody.'' They are deepened by the present/past dramatic structure of each episode of Lost, in which we see how the unfolding story of a community of people is intertwined with the unfolding stories of individual characters. These ideas are also echoed in the Dharma mythology. If I could boil Dharma down to a single idea, it would be this: social responsibility. If we are to believe the information we've been given about them (and that is a big IF, in my opinion), then it seems that Dharma was motivated by the utopian ideal of making the world a better place — by any means necessary. With the Island, Dharma thought they had found a shortcut to transformation — some Instant Karma magic that could produce John Lennon's ''Imagine'' world. Put another way: The Island = ''Think Global, Act Local.'' How does can that high-minded paragraph illuminate the pulpy, comic-booky, sci-fi craziness of Lost? I'm not sure. But I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the Omega Point — but I'm going to have to wait until next week to explain. Regardless, as Doc Jensen goes forward, my theories are going to become increasingly grounded in these themes. Once you see the next several episodes, I think you'll begin to understand why. Yes, folks: I have seen more than just tonight's episode. And they're good. REALLY good. And if you want a hint off what's to come, how about this: Remember Charlie's question in the pilot — ''Guys... where are we?'' Well, having seen the next couple episodes, I think a better question would be this: ''Guys... WHO are we?'' "

4/12/2007 7:41:05 PM

^thanks.

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"so what are the odds of characters dying before the end of this season? my money's on jin or charlie, even though i hope not, especially not the former imho, i'd say the early favorites are: Charlie 3:1 Jin 4:1 Sun 5:1 Hurley 15:1 Michael comes back to the island somehow and dies 200:1"

We know some main characters die. My problem will be if they kill Locke. That is my boy, yo. In the previews for next episode you see him being thrown down and someone saying "what if he is working with them now!?!"

4/13/2007 12:41:39 PM

I don't think Locke is going anywhere until we find out more about his seemingly symbiotic relationship with the island

if they kill off either sayid or jin, there's going to be htp

4/13/2007 1:03:39 PM

This week's ep was really good...it was the first one to grab me since Desmonds episode.

4/13/2007 4:15:33 PM

i hope penny makes an appearance

4/13/2007 8:44:39 PM

after reading a couple spoilers, the rest of this season looks like its gonna be craaaazy

there is an update on the order of the final episodes and who they will be centered around and have flashbacks for

3.17 Desmond Hume
3.18 Jin & Sun Kwon
3.19 John Locke
3.20 Benjamin Linus
3.21 Charlie Pace
3.22-23 Jack Shephard

4/15/2007 4:08:20 PM

^Who the hell cares about Driveshaft?

Oh and Kate has to be the least important character on the show. She has no real tie in to any of the "big themes" that are going on.

Honestly if anyone is going to die off I wish it'd be her....

4/15/2007 4:51:45 PM

4/15/2007 5:14:00 PM

i watched the episode from 2 weeks ago just today, and watching kate and that other girl handcuffed together, wet, muddy, and punching the hell out of each other made me so incredibly hard i had to go walk it off

4/15/2007 7:43:08 PM

I thought there was a Dharma centric ep coming up in S3?

4/16/2007 12:05:09 PM

^its the episode with Ben I believe

4/16/2007 12:10:11 PM

I read that there was a Gerald and Karen DeGroot-centric episode. They are the ones that founded the DHARMA Initiative (along with Alvar Hanso).

4/16/2007 4:47:04 PM

^yes, thats what I heard too. Maybe Ben is their son who went over to the dark side?

4/16/2007 5:06:42 PM

shhh

4/16/2007 10:17:44 PM

^^ He did say he was born on the island, which kind of turns full-circle regarding the whole conception on the island thing. Maybe he was the last (until Claire's baby) child born on the island?

4/16/2007 10:29:50 PM

^I wouldnt be surprised if that was the case, would explain Ben's mad drive to find out why others cannot give birth on the island. Also Rousseau was able to have her baby (alex). She was obviously born on the island and that may be why Ben adopted her?

What about that kid Karl? I doubt they brought a kid to the island just for the hell of it....

4/17/2007 11:19:00 AM

i don't think her kid was born on the island, Alex was two years old when they got on the island.

4/17/2007 12:35:42 PM

Whatever happened to Rose and her husband?

4/17/2007 1:33:30 PM

bernard?

they be making some jungle babies now that she doesn't have cancer

4/17/2007 1:35:48 PM

Maybe they're in the caves, ooh la la.

4/17/2007 4:14:40 PM

cue Steve Miller Band's "Jungle Love"

respect the double meaning!

4/17/2007 4:23:27 PM

I hope they end this series in the next season or two.


I'm ready for my answers, and to see what these writers can come up with next.

4/17/2007 5:13:11 PM

everything i've read says that the show is planned for five seasons in total

who knows what the deal actually is, especially with these guys

4/17/2007 5:15:28 PM

I'd be fine with 5 seasons.

4/17/2007 7:35:27 PM

The current story arc is five seasons, but they plan on the show going beyond that

4/18/2007 11:23:09 AM

there is an article about lost in the new EW, and it kind of hints that next season could be the last because of slipping ratings. which definitely sucks. the producers talk about how nikki and paulo were supposed to have a bigger role, but that since they are now judged on an "episode to episode" basis, they can't take any risks. also says that there will be a big reveal in the season finale of something that was first brought up in the first season. and that the end of the Sun/Jin episode might completely fuck up everyone's theories about the show.

4/18/2007 11:26:55 AM

^ Here it is.

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"'Lost' in Transition Finally, some answers! The show's producers come clean about sagging ratings, the Nikki/Paulo debacle, and the beginning of the island's end All AboutLost By Jeff Jensen Jeff Jensen, an EW senior writer, has been despondent since the cancellation of ''Twin Peaks'' Jack is back on the beach! The Others can't make babies! And ding-dong...Nikki and Paulo are dead! Yes, the stormy third season of Lost is finally clearing up, in case you haven't noticed — and judging by the ratings, you haven't. Since the castaway drama returned to ABC in its new time slot (10 p.m. on Wednesdays) on Feb. 7, viewership has slipped by nearly 20 percent to 11.7 million, and the series is down 12 percent from its season 1 highs. Exec producer Damon Lindelof is blunt about the ratings drop: ''It sucks.'' To be fair, numbers alone don't tell the whole story of Lost's health. Despite the decline, the show still wins its time slot in the 18-49 demo, and it's also one of the most watched shows outside of its time period, thanks to Internet downloading and DVRs. ''Because we moved it to 10, it does seem as if the percentage of DVR recording has gone up. It's tough for people to stay up,'' says Larry Hyams, ABC's chief of research. ''The numbers should be building toward the season finale.'' While ABC has renewed Lost for another year, the producers admit that their demanding enterprise isn't the weekly must-see that it once was, especially during this strangely scheduled, awkwardly crafted third season. ''We've always felt Lost was a cult show at heart. I think what we're seeing now is a marketplace correction,'' says exec producer Carlton Cuse. ''The research shows that for the most part, the audience that started with the show is still with us, though they may be watching it in different ways.'' The producers are working very hard to keep the fans who are still watching satisfied and tuned in. That's why they (literally) buried Kiele Sanchez and Rodrigo Santoro's unpopular newcomers, Nikki and Paulo. Originally, the diamond-swiping crooks were to have anchored a winking arc of stories; one twist-ending episode would have devoted its flashback to actress Nikki's cheeky TV show, Exposé, about strippers who solve crimes. But faced with mounting disdain toward the abruptly introduced characters — and ramped-up viewer frustration with the show's aggressively enigmatic storytelling — the producers decided in December to telescope their ideas into a single kiss-off episode. ''Back when we had more good faith with the audience, we could have gotten away with these shenanigans. Given the backlash against them, we had to clean up the mess,'' says Lindelof. ''We're now judged on an episode-by-episode basis. There's not a lot of room for error.'' The encouraging news: A sneak peek at upcoming episodes finds Lost delivering some serious storytelling goods. The April 18 outing sheds more light on Desmond's future flashes and brings a new character to the island. The April 25 installment — building on the recent disclosure that women who get pregnant on the island appear doomed to die — reveals the paternity of Sun's baby and has an ending that will leave theory spinners reconsidering their scenarios. And on May 2, fans will learn the answer to one of Lost's biggest mysteries, ''something we set up way back in season 1,'' says Lindelof. Care to be more specific? ''No way.'' The season's final three episodes are cloaked in mystery. Will the May 9 hour, entitled ''The Man Behind the Curtain,'' finally lay bare the Dharma Initiative mythology? ''No comment,'' teases Cuse. ''But it would be interesting if we finally met someone who was actually part of the Initiative.'' As for the two-hour May 23 finale, rumors of war and death abound. (RIP, Dominic Monaghan's Charlie and Michael Emerson's Ben?) Lindelof says they wrote the finale mindful that viewers probably won't see Lost again until January 2008 — when it would launch a rerun-free season, and perhaps the beginning of the end of the show itself. The producers have long approached Lost as a novel with a definitive final chapter, and have been in negotiations with ABC about determining and announcing an end date for the series. Such a move would be fairly unprecedented in broadcast television — and could imbue Lost with renewed urgency. But for now, neither side is commenting on the talks. ''Discussions continue'' is all Cuse will say. However season 3 ends, Lindelof hopes Lost will again be on friendly terms with its rabid — but easily frustrated — audience. ''We made a promise back in the pilot,'' he says. ''We believe by the end of the season we'll have made good on it. And don't start pestering us about which frigging promise. Trust us. You'll know.''"

4/18/2007 11:58:51 AM

^ thats good.

but this theory on LOST, is bananas.

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20035497,00.html

4/18/2007 12:00:31 PM

big secret...hmmm

I remember the episode that they said "3 of the biggest questions will be answered" and jack shit got answered. I'm glad they are feeling the pressure a little bit because I like Lost and watch to see the story progress.

I wasn't enthusiastic about "brings a new character to the island" in Desmond's episode. It better be Penny and not someone entirely new (or Penny's dad).

4/18/2007 1:06:42 PM

its not Penny or her dad

but it is a woman

4/18/2007 1:16:08 PM

T-4.5 hours

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4/18/2007 5:23:45 PM

i bet it's going to be that girl that he was going to marry

4/18/2007 6:01:23 PM

Penny?

4/18/2007 6:20:07 PM

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4/18/2007 7:00:10 PM

wonder if desmond is really selling charlie out

4/18/2007 10:17:40 PM

HELICOPTAAAAAAA

4/18/2007 10:28:14 PM

Oh snap! The picture on the head monk's desk at the end was of him and that old lady that convinced Desmond not to propose to Penny.

Anyone got a screen capture of that?

4/18/2007 11:00:33 PM

I couldn't tell but I thought it was. I figured it was someone important since you kind of saw the camera move towards the photo and then back up towards Desmond.

SO WHO IS THIS NEW PERSON????????

4/18/2007 11:02:19 PM

hopefully a cute bitch

4/18/2007 11:03:57 PM

don't know how reliable this is, but I just read where the language of the Catch 22 books was the same language as the two guys in the Arctic in last year's finale.

4/18/2007 11:05:28 PM

Looks like someone sent over by Penny. Remember in the season finale there was Penny and her on the phone with ppl in an airplane speaking with weird accents or a different language. I forget the specifics.

4/18/2007 11:06:28 PM

The lady on the desk was the old lady from the jewelry shop, i almost shit myself.




Plus, the obligitory kate is hot post.

[Edited on April 18, 2007 at 11:16 PM. Reason : .]

4/18/2007 11:07:46 PM

Wasn't the old lady also on the "Jury" to decide the fate of Juliette?

4/18/2007 11:11:01 PM

also yes, I would fuck the everloving shit out of Kate

4/18/2007 11:16:13 PM

haha, i thought the picture of the old lady was the pope (i wasn't really focusing on the picture)

Did anyone catch the title of the book that Desmond pulled out of the tree?
Did anyone catch the "easter egg" in the bushes at the end of the episode?

It seems reasonable that the girl was sent by Penny. What was Desmond talking about when he said Penny looked for him for 3 years and said that "with enough money you can find anyone"? Was it a premonition?

4/18/2007 11:17:13 PM

The book was "Catch-22", same as the title of the episode.

4/18/2007 11:21:45 PM

^x4

that would sure make things interesting

4/18/2007 11:28:02 PM

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4/18/2007 11:28:31 PM