ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
with TOB at the helm here, I don't worry about recruiting anymore, really. TOB and company have a long history of finding "diamond in the rough" talent and developing players. UNC had highly ranked recruiting classes under Bunting, and they'll continue to do the same under Butch, but stars don't win games.
Stole this from StateFans:
Quote : | "UNC-PQ (based on depth chart on Carolina Blue and Scout star rankings)
QB : TJ Yates - 3* RB : Shaun Draughn - 3* FB : Bobby Rome - 2* TE : Richard Quinn - 3* WR : Hakeem Nicks - 4* WR : Brooks Foster - 3* OT : Kyle Jolly - 2* OT : Garrett Reynolds - 2* OG : Alan Pelc - 2* OG : Calvin Darity - 4* C : Lowel Dyer - WO
DE : EJ Wilson - 2* DE : Robert Quinn - 4* DT : Marvin Austin - 5* DT : Cam Thomas - 3* LB : Bruce Carter - 3* LB : Quan Sturdivant - 4* LB : Mark Paschal - 3* CB : Jordan Hemby - 3* CB : Kendric Burney - 3* S : Trimane Goddard - 4* S : Deunta Williams - 4*
NC State (based on depth chart on Pack Pride and Scout star rankings)
QB : Russell Wilson - 2* RB : Andre Brown - 4* FB : Taylor Gentry - WO TE : Anthony Hill - 3* WR : Owen Spencer - 3* WR : Jarvis Williams - 2* OT : Jake Vermiglio - 2* OT : Jeraill McCuller - 2* OG : John Bedics - 2* (converted from DL this year) OG : Meares Green - WO C : Ted Larsen - 2* (concerted from DL this year)
DE : Willie Young - 3* DE : Markus Kuhn - 3* DT : Alan-Michael Cash - 2* DT : Keith Willis Jr - 3* LB : Nate Irving - 3* LB : Ray Michel - 2* LB : Robbie Leonard - WO CB : Jeremy Gray - 2* CB : Deandre Morgan - 3* S : JC Neal - 4* S : Clem Johnson - 2*" |
Quote : | "Them: Offensive stars- 28 Defensive stars- 38 Total- 66
Us: Offensive Stars-22 Defensive Stars-27 Total- 49" |
[Edited on November 24, 2008 at 3:04 PM. Reason : ]11/24/2008 3:01:19 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "with TOB at the helm here, I don't worry about recruiting anymore, really." |
ditto that. i knew every single recruit we were looking at in the '07 class by name. i don't know hardly anyone these days. i just don't feel compelled to follow it.
basketball recruiting i can't get enough of, on the other hand.11/24/2008 3:04:18 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Updates CB Shankle and MLB Bell to UNC
2009 Football Scholarship Offers: Bold = Commit
QB *** Everett Proctor (Jack Britt) Fayetteville, NC 6-2/200
RB *** James Washington (Boone HS) Orlando, FL 6-0/180/4.40 *** Greg Pratt (Naples HS) Naples, FL 5-9/165/4.40 *** Rolandan Finch (St. Xavier HS) Louisville, KY 5-10/200/4.50 *** Travis Small (Cheraw HS) Cheraw, SC 5-10.5/184/4.50 *** Morgan Alexander (Cartersville HS) Cartersville, GA 5-10.5/160/4.47 ** William Pratcher (Cedar Grove HS) Ellenwood, GA 5-10/180
FB No offers
WR *** Quintin Payton (T L Hanna HS) Anderson, SC 6-4/190 *** Bryan Underwood (Cleveland Heights HS) University Hts, OH 5-8.5/162/4.62 **** Justin Brown (Concord HS) Wilmington, DE 6-3.5/210/4.48 *** Kinsman Thomas (Marlboro County HS) Bennettsville, SC 6-3/210/4.59 *** Carvin Powell (Great Bridge HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-2.5/198/4.50
**** Jheranie Boyd (Ashbrook HS) Gastonia, NC 6-3/185/4.45 UNC
TE ** Anthony Talbert (Winton Woods HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-4/225 *** Asa Watson (Rock Hill HS) Rock Hill, SC 6-4/200
OT ***** Xavier Nixon (Jack Britt) Fayetteville, NC 6-6/285 ***** Marcus Hall (Glenville HS) Cleveland, OH 6-5/293/5.35 **** Travis Bond (Bertie HS) Windsor, NC 6-6/330 *** Kadeem Custis (St. John Neumann HS) Philadelphia, PA 6-5/270/5.00 *** Andrew Tiller (Nassau) Garden City, NY 6-6/320/5.00 *** Duran Christophe (Woodstock HS) Woodstock, GA 6-5.5/257/5.59
OG *** Denzelle Good (Gaffney Senior HS) Gaffney, SC 6-4/295 **** Quinton Washington (Timberland HS) Saint Stephen, SC 6-4/322 * Gus Handler (Barrington HS) Barrington, IL 6-3/265
C No Offers
DT *** Brian Slay (Stone Bridge HS) Ashburn, VA 6-3/275 *** Frankie Davis (East Ridge HS) Clermont, FL 6-3/270 *** Deion Roberson (Tucker HS) Tucker, GA 6-2/275 *** Tyson Chandler (North Plainfield HS) North Plainfield, NJ 6-6/315 *** Raynard Randolph (Gwynn Park HS) Brandywine, MD 6-3/295 *** Akeem Spence (Ft. Walton Beach HS) Fort Walton Beach, FL 6-1/290 * Conor O'Neal (Newsome HS) Lithia, FL 6-3/300
DE *** Ricky Dowdy (High Point Central HS) High Point, NC 6-3/225 *** Sylvester Crawford (Victory Christian Center Sch.) Charlotte, NC 6-5/215 **** Duane Chisolm (Beaufort HS) Beaufort, SC 6-2/250 **** Jason Ankrah (Quince Orchard HS) Gaithersburg, MD 6-4/240/4.79 **** Leon Mackey (Hargrave Military Academy) Chatham, VA 6-5/260 *** Julius Forte (Boca Ciega HS) Gulfport, FL 6-2/221/4.66 *** Izaan Cross (Flowery Branch HS) Flowery Branch, GA 6-4/250 *** Clinton Simpkins (Chancellor HS) Fredericksburg, VA 6-3/215/4.60 *** Bernardo Nunez (Hoboken HS) Hoboken, NJ 6-2/220/4.70 ** Brian Jordan (Great Bridge HS) Chesapeake, VA 6-4/207 ** Luke Sager (Niceville Senior HS) Niceville, FL 6-4/240 * Josh Jackson (Gainesville HS) Gainesville, GA 6-1/242/5.00
MLB *** Ryan Cheek (Lancaster HS) Lancaster, OH 6-0.5/232/4.51 ** Julian Burnett (Westside HS) Macon, GA 5-9.5/222/4.66
**** Hawatha Bell (David W Butler HS) Matthews, NC 6-0/225 UNC
SLB *** Luke Kuechly (St. Xavier HS) Cincinnati, OH 6-3/205 *** LeRon Furr (Carver HS) Columbus, GA 6-3/213 *** Antwon Higgs (Pompano Beach HS Institute) Pompano Beach, FL 6-2/243/4.94
WLB **** Jamil Merrell (Paul M. Hodgson Vocational Tec) Newark, DE 6-4/210/4.60 *** Robert Nelson (Stone Mountain HS) Stone Mountain, GA 6-0/205
S **** Jonathan Meeks (Hargrave Military Academy) Chatham, VA 6-2/185 *** Hans Rice (Eufaula HS) Eufaula, AL 6-3/195/4.5 * Boogie McCray (Lake Taylor HS) Norfolk, VA 6-2/210 * Jarrell Harrison (CC of San Francisco) San Francisco, CA 6-2/210/4.55 * Brandan Bishop (Boca Raton HS) Boca Raton, FL 6-1/197/4.66
**** David Batts (El Camino) Torrance, CA 6-2/200/4.50 Nevada
CB *** Dean Haynes (Northwest Whitfield County HS) Tunnel Hill, GA 6-0/200 *** Jarvis Byrd (Pahokee HS) Pahokee, FL 5-10/170/4.65 *** Josh Evans (Irvington HS) Irvington, NJ 6-2/185/4.43 *** Dale Peterman (Ursuline HS) Youngstown, OH 5-11/176/4.67 *** Jairus Jones (Wharton HS) Tampa, FL 6-1/205/4.60 ** Keith Reaser (Miami Killian HS) Miami, FL 5-10/-/4.44 ** Rashard Smith (Dublin HS) Dublin, GA 5-10/175
**** Terry Shankle (South Stanly HS) Norwood, NC 6-0/180 UNC
**** Travis Hawkins (Quince Orchard HS) Gaithersburg, MD 5-11/185/4.42 Maryland
K,P ** Chris Ward (Starrs Mill HS) Fayetteville, GA 6-1/170
------------------------------------------STATISTICS------------------------------------------
Scholarships Count 16 Available for 2009 -13 2009 Commits +3 Class of 2008 who didn't qualify (Palmer, Everett, Mangram) +6 Transfer or Left Team (Jaradat, Locust, Golder, Burke, T. Barnes, Linney) ------------------------------------- 12 Scholarships Remaining
Recruiting Breakdown OFFENSE QB - 1 Backfield - 1 Receivers - 3 Linemen - 1 ------------------ Total Offense - 6
DEFENSE Linemen - 3 Linebackers - 1 Secondary - 2 ------------------ Total Defense - 6
SPECIAL TEAMS Kickers - 1
Geographical Diversity Florida - 2 Georgia - 2 North Carolina - 3 South Carolina - 2 Ohio - 3 Virginia - 1
Star Count (highest of the two sites) 5* - 0 4* - 0 3* - 11 2* - 2 1* - 0 -------------------- Average Stars - 2.85 11/24/2008 3:09:05 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
re: the shankle commitment, as a guy on the State premium board on scout put it so eloquently:
"He Can Get Some Too"
[Edited on November 24, 2008 at 3:11 PM. Reason : ...] 11/24/2008 3:10:33 PM |
MethodKal Veteran 241 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, how many freaking scholarships do they have at UNC. 11/24/2008 4:55:28 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "UNC had highly ranked recruiting classes under Bunting, and they'll continue to do the same under Butch, but stars don't win games." |
no, but they apparently make you a better program
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/college_football/story/4018744/
[Edited on November 24, 2008 at 6:28 PM. Reason : ]11/24/2008 6:27:47 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I think one of the guys on PP said that UNC was now 10 over on scholarships, haha. Not sure if that's legit or what they'll do to supplement it but I'm sure Butch will manipulate it and make it work.
Yeah I've also come around on the TOB recruiting, we got some big-time names last year, and a lot of the names we're getting this year are guys that all the local analyst are raving about and claiming to be super sleepers. I think TOB knows what he is doing. I just hope that when we start having success he can keep finding diamonds in the rough as well as lure in some big-time talent. It seems every year we have a 5-Star OL from NC that goes to the SEC and is never heard of again, haha. 11/24/2008 8:39:55 PM |
andyWolfVill All American 602 Posts user info edit post |
Can anyone remind me of how many redshirt freshman will be coming off the bench/eligible to play next year? 11/24/2008 10:34:23 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
^ I think I saw it was something like 13.
Barnes Glennon Mattes Wallace Other O-Lineman I can't remember Jackson Manning Beasley Carter Wolff a couple of other guys in the secondary 11/24/2008 10:38:58 PM |
tl All American 8430 Posts user info edit post |
UNC is indeed 10 over the limit as of now. They have 95 scholarships reserved for next year barring any attrition.
Redshirting freshmen: OL Zach Allen RB Brandon Barnes LB William Beasley TE Mario Carter CB Akeem Cunningham QB Mike Glennon CB Gary Grant FB Colby Jackson LB Terrell Manning OL RJ Mattes OL Andrew Wallace CB CJ Wilson S Earl Wolff plus walkons
True Freshmen playing: CB Dom Ellis FB Taylor Gentry (walkon, but that dude deserves a scholarship) WR TJ Graham LB Sterling Lucas LB Dwayne Maddox 11/24/2008 10:56:47 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Do we get any of the partial/non qualifiers in this spring or next fall?
What happened to Roy Mangram, Marty Everett, and Tobias Palmer? All three would be big helps next year if available.
[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 9:43 AM. Reason : ] 11/25/2008 9:28:00 AM |
Motiak All American 1498 Posts user info edit post |
I think they all failed to qualify academically. 11/25/2008 9:43:55 AM |
phishbfm All American 4715 Posts user info edit post |
I can't wait to see Beasley and Manning out there with Irving!! 11/25/2008 10:38:03 AM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
a couple of solid WRs and a few more linebackers and we're in business for next season. 11/25/2008 11:23:35 AM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What happened to Roy Mangram, Marty Everett, and Tobias Palmer? All three would be big helps next year if available." |
I know mangram and palmer ended up going to Georgia Military which is a JuCo. They're there for two years so they are listed as commits for 2010. Both have said recently, I think, that they can't wait to play for NC State.
Quote : | "Do we get any of the partial/non qualifiers in this spring or next fall?" |
Sam Jones should be here in the spring, other than that, I'm not sure.
[Edited on November 25, 2008 at 12:14 PM. Reason : .]11/25/2008 12:13:05 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^^We already have a great WR core and they'll be back, so we're set there.
^Correct.
And UNC just added another player, a 2-Star JUCO TE...amazing, haha.
Now putting them 11 scholarships over the limit for next season. I can't wait to see if any flack comes from Butch pulling scholarships. 11/25/2008 12:22:54 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
We've offered safety prospect Donald Coleman. Coleman originally was at St. Mary's Preparatory School in Orchard Lake, MI before moving to The Hun School in Princeton, NJ. He switched from linebacker to safety and running back. He's in a post graduate program and has not yet been evaluated by Scout. Rivals rates him as a 2* prospect. We are the first to offer.
Princeton (NJ) Hun School Ht: 6-foot-0 Wt: 210 lbs Forty: 4.5 secs Shuttle: 4.2 secs
Schools Interested Connecticut Iowa Miami (Oh) North Carolina North Carolina State South Florida Wake Forest
11/25/2008 4:46:26 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Clemson recruit Corico Hawkins considers N.C. State visit http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/shared-blogs/ajc/cfbrecruit/entries/2008/11/25/baldwin_lb_and.html 11/26/2008 12:35:07 AM |
cheezitman All American 1245 Posts user info edit post |
IDK if this has ever been mentioned, but did u know TOB never ONCE had a top 25 recruiting class at BC?
Amazing 11/27/2008 3:48:59 AM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
^it's hard to get people to go to boston to play football 11/27/2008 4:17:42 AM |
Talage All American 5092 Posts user info edit post |
^it's hard to get people to go to boston to play football 11/27/2008 7:33:14 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
4* JUCO DT Edwin Herbert will be visiting this weekend. Man this is going to be a huge and potentially program changing weekend for our program with all of the recruits we have visiting and the potential bowl implications. Herbert was originally committed to Tennessee. According to Rivals he is the 29th best JUCO prospect overall.
http://jcfootball.scout.com/a.z?s=87&p=8&c=1&nid=3827121 http://ncstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=81536&sport=1
Defensive tackle San Francisco (CA) City College of San Francisco Ht: 6-foot-3 Wt: 295 lbs Forty: 4.81 secs Bench max: 460 pounds
Schools Interested (known offers in italics) Tennessee N.C. State Arkansas Nebraska Colorado Florida Oklahoma Wisconsin Arizona Arizona State UNLV
[Edited on November 27, 2008 at 11:57 AM. Reason : pics] 11/27/2008 11:56:45 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
Herbert is EXACTLY what we need in this class. A "Ready-to-Play" Defensive Tackle in the leroy burgess mold. Next year, Burgess and Cash will be our starters with Crawford as the lone backup. We NEED herbert 11/27/2008 12:02:54 PM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
He looks like a statue.
I hope we get him! 11/27/2008 12:02:58 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
What big-timers are coming in this weekend? I've heard WR Raper and OT Bond, but nothing on the other guys. Getting those two would be huge, though. 11/27/2008 12:25:24 PM |
clayguevara All American 604 Posts user info edit post |
Will Kyle Linney ever play at NCSU? I read on PP that he was on the sidelines of the UNC or Wake game (can't remember which). 11/27/2008 3:05:19 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Visitors coming in this weekend according to Scout:
Travis Bond - **** - OT - 16
Edwin Herbert - **** - DT - JC
Antwon Higgs - *** - SLB - 38
Larry Raper - *** - WR - 57 (former Clemson commit that runs a 4.24 40 )
Morgan Alexander - ** - RB - 113
Jarrell Harrison - *** (on Rivals) - S - JC
[Edited on November 27, 2008 at 4:00 PM. Reason : there are probably some others too that Scout doesn't know about] 11/27/2008 4:00:16 PM |
BigEgo Not suspended 24374 Posts user info edit post |
^^I don't think so 11/27/2008 4:10:24 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
i know he's already on the team but....what position does Brandon Barnes play? 11/27/2008 4:30:59 PM |
clayguevara All American 604 Posts user info edit post |
Hearing running back. In 2010 its very possible he would be the feature back. Though I think the jury is still out on Underwood and it's possible Baker would be back to due to a medical redshirt. 11/27/2008 4:48:34 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
supposedly the staff loves what they're seeing from Barnes at RB. Then again, running behind those stud freshman OL everyday at practice can't hurt 11/27/2008 6:54:38 PM |
Wadhead1 Duke is puke 20897 Posts user info edit post |
Underwood is pretty solid. Next year will be Eugene and Underwood, then 2010 will probably be Underwood and Barnes. 11/27/2008 10:07:08 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i'm personally looking forward to underwood. everytime he gets carries he's money, aside from the fumbles. 11/27/2008 10:16:17 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Has he fumbled this year in the few carries he's gotten? I know he had some trouble with that during his freshman year, but I don't remember him fumbling this year. 11/27/2008 11:25:53 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
It's not so much the fumbles, but the way he carries the ball. He tends to swing it out from his body instead of tucking it tight, kind of like Deshaun Foster. He did it a lot as a freshman, so hopefully he's learned from that. I haven't seen him enough this year to make a call. 11/28/2008 12:28:25 AM |
clayguevara All American 604 Posts user info edit post |
Yes we have two studs in front of Underwood, but you'd have to think he would play some if he was a really good option. Thats why I'm saying with all of the great things we're hearing about Barnes is that he would be ahead of Underwood on the depth chart. 11/28/2008 12:40:36 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I have this expectation that Barnes will be a change-of-pace type back and he'll need an in-between the tackles runner, so hopefully he and Underwood can balance things out. I mean not trying to inflate the situation, but Pete Carroll didn't fly out to visit Barnes and offer him a scholarship to be a RB without him having some potential at the position. 11/28/2008 12:47:43 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
My neighbor would have made a great Wolfpack quarterback...instead, he just signed his letter of intent for Duke. WTF, why can't we get the good homegrown talent anymore.
Nov. 10
Anthony Boone, QB
Charlotte, NC Weddington High School
Scouts Grade: ESPNU 150 Watch List
Duke scores 2010 signal-caller Anthony Boone
Anthony Boone, a dual-threat quarterback from Weddington (Charlotte, N.C.), has become the second player to chose Duke in the Class of 2010.
The ESPNU 150 Watch List talent was one of over 130 recruits to visit Duke this weekend. He was also offered by Illinois and has drawn interest from Virginia Tech, Clemson and South Carolina, among others.
As a sophomore, Boone passed for 2,000 yards and 16 touchdowns, while rushing for 950 yards and seven touchdowns.
Boone joins athlete Darius Lipford (Lenoir, N.C./Hibriten) as committed players for Duke's 2010 class. 11/28/2008 1:54:08 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
that's just a verbal, not that it makes any difference. 11/28/2008 2:08:39 AM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Were we even recruiting that guy? 11/28/2008 11:57:50 AM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the second player to chose Duke in the Class of 2010." |
11/28/2008 12:03:01 PM |
EVroccck Cash$Millionaire 10294 Posts user info edit post |
I played flag football yesterday with an OL who is going to Duke although I forgot his name, he was HUGE and only 17 11/28/2008 12:27:49 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
that narrows it down to about 100% of 17 yr old O Linemen going to play Div. 1 football. 11/28/2008 12:47:14 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "WTF, why can't we get the good homegrown talent anymore." |
Just because your hometown neighbor seems like the next best thing to you does not mean that TOB/dana bible feel the same way. Did we even offer this guy? If he's not the right fit for our staff, then not pursuing him does not mean that we can't get the "good homegrown talent anymore"11/28/2008 1:02:38 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
^^ he mentioned that he was going to Duke. If he lives in Raleigh than it was probably Perry Simmons. http://ncstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=85317 http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=3806457
On a side note Walt Canty, a safety prospect from Dorman HS in Spartanburg, SC that we were recruiting, committed to Duke two weeks ago. He was a 2* prospect and we never offered.
[Edited on November 28, 2008 at 1:03 PM. Reason : ^] 11/28/2008 1:03:11 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Jairus Jones is down to us and Nebraska. 11/28/2008 1:45:11 PM |
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