6'3 with big hands so 0 is easy for me to hit, thank you genes! Queens on diff hotkeys lets you check the status of each hatch and you can tell if you miss a vomit unlike map/backspace. It's just better, yes it requires more clicks but so does everything better in SC/SC2 =P
On another topic destroying a faggot 2pylon 1 cannon contain feels so good as zerg! Oh youre gonna contain me? Then I'ma just build drones first 8min then nydus u with 20+ speed roaches =)

9/11/2010 12:32:47 AM

huh? Don't get why you wouldn't put all your nexus on one hotkey.

I'm always splitting off my probes anyway so I want them both building probes at all times.

9/11/2010 12:35:55 AM

it's a lot easier for me to remember my current setup and get from base to base for whatever I may need to do there. it's also easier for me to keep track of chronoboosts that way.

I also don't build probes often out of mined out nexuses. Maybe one or two from main to natural if the natural is really close, but never from my natural elsewhere or to a gold.

[Edited on September 11, 2010 at 12:48 AM. Reason : asdfg]

9/11/2010 12:45:25 AM

gotcha. I just like doing whatever I can to keep my hotkeys as low as possible. Beyond 5 it is a pain for me.

9/11/2010 1:51:48 AM

So I've gotten much better with zerg after tailing off a little of the early aggression. Once I get speedlings out I'll harass their expo but I rarely touch their main other then with mutas. I've done a complete 180 on the speedlings, I hated them at first but now they are one of my favorite units.

I think I'm playing zerg the way they are meant to be played now, containing my opponent to one base and expanding all over the map like crazy. Its super entertaining to just sit there and force them to sit on their one mined out base while I have hatcheries all over the place.

9/11/2010 8:42:20 AM

who the hell has an expansion by the time you have speed lings. i wonder if we play the same game.

9/11/2010 9:25:02 AM

In 1v1 it's common to expand before you even drop your spawning pool. It's like a different game compared to team games.

9/11/2010 9:50:33 AM

maybe thats why the times i played 1v1 i made 5 zealots and i felt like i was playing a computer on easy.

9/11/2010 10:07:44 AM

5 Zealots takes out a surprising amount of people 1v1

9/11/2010 10:48:08 AM

^^^^
I typically go 14 gas 14 pool, then get speed with my first 100 and expand around 20. I am still in silver and there is too much cheese too often that i cant beat them if i were to expand before pool.

9/11/2010 11:02:34 AM

if you're two gating and chronoboosting zealots, 5 is one of good timing attacks. of course you set the gates to rally on the lots so you might get another couple in before the attack is through.

Quote :

"gotcha. I just like doing whatever I can to keep my hotkeys as low as possible. Beyond 5 it is a pain for me."

I'm pretty comfortable with up to 8. 9 and 0 can be tricky for me to use often in the heat of things just because my hands aren't that big.

[Edited on September 11, 2010 at 6:12 PM. Reason : asdfg]

9/11/2010 6:10:45 PM

Oops, just realized that I mistyped my account info:
sprocket.441

Had a solid night tonight. FINALLY got promoted to 3v3 silver. Now we're #2 in our division. Hopefully we'll be into gold before long!

9/11/2010 9:11:17 PM

Tww username: name.character code
Azaka: Azaka.422
BigEgo: ProtisRobit.535
titans78: FLuE.301
Lokken: Lokken.762
JCE2011:AdmiralHaket.306
icyhotpatch: Unity.156
JBaz: JBaz.283
Stimwalt: Stimwalt.306
slackerb: slackerb.591
Doss2k: Doss.357
Doss2k friend: Phoebetor.944
Fry: Lionhart.667
sprocket: sprocket.441
dzags18:zags.441




Playing in the lower leagues is like playing a different game also.

9/11/2010 9:46:38 PM

Tww username: name.character code
Azaka: Azaka.422
BigEgo: ProtisRobit.535
titans78: FLuE.301
Lokken: Lokken.762
JCE2011:AdmiralHaket.306
icyhotpatch: Unity.156
JBaz: JBaz.283
Stimwalt: Stimwalt.306
slackerb: slackerb.591
Doss2k: Doss.357
Doss2k friend: Phoebetor.944
Fry: Lionhart.667
sprocket: sprocket.441
dzags18:zags.441
Wolfmarsh: Lazarus.765

9/12/2010 9:18:21 AM

If anyone wants to play some 2v2's today let me know! I'm off most of the day so I'll be bored.

zags.414!

9/13/2010 7:55:52 AM

fucking b.net lagged me out twice today.

9/13/2010 6:08:53 PM

Yeah I was lagging pretty bad myself all day.

9/13/2010 7:00:50 PM

there was a 400-500ms lag it seemed in all of my games too. my internet isn't THAT shitty at all.

9/13/2010 7:07:41 PM

word is: Bnet is shutting down tomorrow morning til early afternoon ~ 8-2pm. Maybe it's that balance patch incoming?

9/13/2010 9:02:23 PM

^They said patch Mid Month so could be it. They've posted proposed details, it is on the front page of Starcraft2.com.

Nothing really groundbreaking, nerf to tanks, and ultras I believe. They are making zealots take longer to build and warp gates longer to warp. Said it was to easy to zealot rush terran or some shit??

I dunno, sometimes I wonder if they actually play their own game at times. But this isn't really a big game changing patch, I just think more of a tweak patch.

They also came out with the new top 200 lists for all 3 regions. Pretty interesting, in the US there was only 1 zerg in the top 20 and he's actually a Korean player who plays on both US and Asia. In Asia though there are more Zergs doing much better. Also in Asia they have some guys who have played a ridiculous amount of games. One guy was like 750-500.

9/13/2010 11:07:56 PM

Love that with Bnet 2.0 we also get the feature of downtime

[Edited on September 14, 2010 at 9:50 AM. Reason : 2.0]

9/14/2010 9:50:30 AM

The nerf to Ultras isn't a nerf at all. It's actually a buff to killing smaller buildings in groups like supply depots, pylons and walls since the Ultra will now cleave buildings. The Ram had a longer attack period so the dps to single buildings is still pretty much the same.

9/14/2010 10:26:35 AM

Quote :

"Ultralisk damage is being decreased from 15, +25 vs. armored to 15, +20 vs. armored. This reduction is comparable to the changes being made to the battlecruiser and siege tank. Like the battlecruiser, ultralisks are simply too powerful for the cost, even though they are difficult to muster."

They are making the damage to buildings as you've said as well, but this is what I was talking about.

One thing I was thinking about.. curious to see what happens if they release the patch while this huge GSL tournament is going on in Korea. Will they postpone the release of the patch on the Korean servers just for the tournament? Would be pretty tough to release a patch halfway through something like that, at that level even minor adjustments make a huge difference in game.

9/14/2010 11:55:18 AM

Ah yeah, I forgot about that part. Doesn't really make that big of a difference. Most of the time I use Ultras I use them for their ability to take damage not deal it (and stomp on forcefields, stupid Protoss).

9/14/2010 12:12:56 PM

Just logged in to test and there was no patch that I saw.

9/14/2010 2:10:19 PM

ya just maintenance crap, no patch.

Had a nice win with zerg my last game I played, 1v1 vs. a T who was a top 20 diamond(although I've learned that doesn't mean shit). Saw an early scout from him, and sent out 2 drones because I just felt like a proxy was coming with such an early scout. Found the proxy barracks sent out another drone to kill the scv and stopped that. He still insisted on going reapers and by that time I had my ling speed and took care of that easily. Then actually used Banes which is a great unit that I don't use nearly enough. Great counter to MMM with roaches and lings having those banes thrown in. Was just nice to have one of those games where I was a step ahead of him, knew exactly what he was doing the whole time, and just patiently dominated the game.

I think after this patch I'm going to have to quit playing random and pick a race and I think that might be zerg. Just seems like I win more 1v1 with that race than the others, I wish I could get the statistics for what my winning % is with each race. I'll stay random for 2s and such but I think the higher I get the more I'm losing just because I lack race familiarity... especially in the mirror match-ups which I think are always the toughest.

9/14/2010 3:31:54 PM

Quote :

"They are making zealots take longer to build and warp gates longer to warp. Said it was to easy to zealot rush terran or some shit??"

I think they were trying to nerf 2 gate? Unless Zerg goes straight for roaches 2 gate does a LOT of damage. You can get 5 zealots up before they can get much of anything.

9/14/2010 5:59:39 PM

If you all haven't played Colonial Line Wars yet, I highly suggest you do!

It's like a much better version of Nexus Wars.

9/14/2010 11:25:26 PM

i prefer nexus wars, but it's fun

9/15/2010 12:09:54 AM

Being that the Funny Opponent Quotes and the Rage threads are my fav ones on TL, I had to make this collage of one of my recent games :

9/15/2010 3:08:11 AM

^ Love that thread. Hilarious!

9/15/2010 8:04:29 AM

guys mind posting a link to it?

9/15/2010 9:14:55 AM

The early posts are during the beta, so start at a later page, try Pg 40:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=126013¤tpage=40

9/15/2010 11:09:55 AM

Hahahaha just had an epic fight. Not sure what map it was on, but it was pretty big. I started off trying to proxy rax the guy (its just silver ) and he caught it - so i retreated and started building up my base. Then he says his GF just called and she was gonna be there in 10 minutes. So he hits me with a bunch of marines and manages to take out most of my base, at the same time I hit him with a few banshees and took out some of his. We ended up playing a game of chase the command center for about 30 minutes while I kept rebuilding in different areas and building up large numbers of marines. I finally went into his base and took out most of his stuff and when his army came back to get me they all funneled through his own wall off and got picked off by marines. He had only expanded once and didn't have anything going in his base. GG noob!

9/15/2010 3:54:58 PM

HAHAAHHA i just bmed my way into a win. me and flue (titans78) were playing a 2v2 and they went double FE double voids, nothing but voids. it was on a map where it's really really easy to FE. twilight whatever. anyway, when we get attacked, i send all my probes from my expand around the map, and expand over and over and over. didn't build anything but probes, got a forge, played around with some cannons all over the place, and they eventually rage quit.

i attacked one of their expands with probes, they were too scared to finish me off



interesting 1v1 for those of you who don't subscribe to husky:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWyO5Vq82hs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO40O3q6J3g&feature=channel

PvZ where the zerg goes mass queens/lings.

[Edited on September 16, 2010 at 5:14 AM. Reason : asdf]

9/16/2010 5:12:36 AM

Lol the fucking cannon rush on that 4th GSL set today

9/16/2010 7:41:51 AM

Okay so this is a really stupid question, but this is something that is hurting me in games all over. What is the best way to make probes/scvs/drones attack? Whenever I have an early zergling rush on the opponent they always seem to meet the lings and spread out automatically to attack like a normal offensive unit, but mine always just seem to stand around. Is there something I'm missing here? Today I got freaking worker rushed and had a good 4 more workers then him but mine were refusing to attack.

9/16/2010 9:04:38 PM

select the probes you want to attack and just attack move the area.

you can get a little cute with it if you want, by adding a bit of micro but for that to do anything you'd have to have that pro APM. you should be about to fend it off just by selecting and attack moving. if you did your job scouting you should have some units to take care of it with the probes.

[Edited on September 17, 2010 at 1:04 AM. Reason : asdf]

9/17/2010 1:02:45 AM

hahaha

9/17/2010 6:44:20 AM

^^ Wow I'm stupid. Can't believe I didn't know about attack moving. Thanks a bunch, that should help me out considerably.

9/17/2010 10:26:01 AM

if you don't attack move but instead just right click attack after that unit you attacked is dead, the probes/workers, not being an offensive unit, will just sit there idly. the attack move has them automatically attempt to kill anything foreign to them in the area before becoming idle again.

9/17/2010 10:31:42 AM

Man there are some SHITTY 1100ish diamond players. I find that usually if the person doesn't respond to my glhf sir they are usually just hooorrible. Just had a terran attack me at 9min in with 2 hellions, 4 marauders, 6 marines, and a medivac lol?

9/17/2010 3:13:48 PM

Hoping to get some games in this evening!

9/17/2010 4:29:10 PM

Ruh roh I signed up for tomorrow's craftcup!

9/17/2010 5:49:52 PM

http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-villain/vote/index.html?tag=content_nav;vote

Kerrigan can't lose

9/17/2010 8:59:10 PM

On a terrible losing streak

Was mid 40's diamond, down to mid 60's. I just got beat by a six pool. This is depressing.

9/17/2010 10:19:32 PM

Great night tonight w/ friends (3v3s). Averaged 80 APM one game , a new record for me. Best game: PTZ (us) vs. TTT (them) on Ulaan Deeps. I went reapers and all 3 of them went mass marine. My base got demo'd, then they hit the zerg base and slowly ate away at it while I was helping our least experienced player - the P. He made 8 voids and gave me control. I figured they would get stomped by triple mass marine, but I microed them the rest of the game. Those 8 voids (w/ speed upgrade and +1 weapons) cleared out 3 terran bases and all the marines.

Best part: at the end, they started complaining about how mass voids is for noobs and why protoss is the easiest race because of it . Made my day! Still averaged 70 apm that game i think, despite using only voids. We checked the replay: at the end of the game, those void rays had almost 150 kills + all the buildings!

9/17/2010 10:56:49 PM

In a stalemate with a cannon rusher atm! 12 Lings 3 overlords and an extractor vs 3 pylon 3 cannons. Watching movies in windowed mode lol

9/18/2010 8:41:37 AM

^^I'm no expert, but isn't mass marines shitty? And isn't reapers and void rays a shitty response?

9/18/2010 11:26:12 AM

^^ sounds like a matchup of two BKs with BM lololololollll

9/18/2010 12:03:18 PM