i disagree too. I think if we beat BC & UVA and play a decent semifinal, we're in. A win over unc woudl obviously lock us in the 1st rd, likely around 11/12 seed.

Can you imagine if UNC lost, and we went on a 3 game tear to reach the title game, and then took out Dook in a revenge game? aaahhh eternal hope.

3/5/2012 3:49:41 PM

no, beating bc and uva probably gets us in.

beating unc assures that we're in. big difference.

3/5/2012 4:04:13 PM

david glenn is the biggest radio troll ever. He's like the face of radio. Makes valid points enough for you to question whether or not he's serious.

3/5/2012 4:06:59 PM

last year we had nobody on the All ACC teams, Tracy got an honorable mention

movin on up

3/5/2012 4:09:06 PM

Really impressed with CJ's development. Dude was a liability on the court more often than not last year, and now he's our best player. Please stay 2 more years

3/5/2012 4:12:18 PM

I'll be completely shocked if he comes back after this year.

3/5/2012 4:14:28 PM

he's certainly played well enough over the last couple weeks to consider going pro

but part of that is him being allowed to play to his strengths instead of jogging around and taking jumpers like he did under Lowe

i'm hoping he realizes he can get better with another year in this system, cause most of the NBA mock drafts i've seen that even mention him don't have him as a lottery pick

optimistically, he'll stick around, Rivers will go pro, Barnes, Zeller and Henson will go pro, and we'll have a legitimate shot at contending for the ACC title next season

nc state shitically, he'll have a good ACC tourney run, will go pro, UNC barely loses to Kentucky in the Final Four, and Barnes, Zeller and Henson decide to return next year

3/5/2012 4:56:56 PM

We just have to hope that the coaches and Brown, Wood, and Howell can convince CJL to stay one more season. With the guys we have coming in, you hope he realizes that he has the chance to be the best player on a potentially very good team.

^ Zeller is a senior and has to go pro. Barnes is probably gone, Henson likely gone, Marshall is probably the most likely to stay. I think Rivers will stay as Duke will be heavy favorites next year with the expected departures at UNC if he does.

[Edited on March 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM. Reason : df]

3/5/2012 5:01:12 PM

^^I'll take a UNC loss in the tournament any day even if their players do come back. Sure as hell beats a national championship

3/5/2012 5:03:13 PM

Calvin will be back and get an ACL tear on the very first game

3/5/2012 5:06:26 PM

i thought Zeller got a medical redshirt one year but I guess not

also Stanford is now 94th in the RPI, does that mean we have 2 bad losses instead of 3?

Texas currently 51st, Miami currently 56th, we are currently 57th


[Edited on March 5, 2012 at 5:10 PM. Reason : http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html]

3/5/2012 5:08:31 PM

stanfords been considered a bad loss for awhile now

3/5/2012 5:12:23 PM

Our rpi would get a nice little bump with two wins and sos loss vs unc.

Miami winning could give us some top 50 wins but might sneak them past us for a spot.

It's definitely going to be interesting

3/5/2012 5:13:42 PM

^^but don't they consider a "bad loss" to be "losing to a team with an RPI of >100" ?

the same way if Miami or Texas gets into the top-50, we'll magically have "quality wins" ?

3/5/2012 5:14:44 PM

ya, I was just wondering if we should be pulling for miami

^every commentator and graphic that I've seen have listed three bad losses (clemson, gt, stanford)

[Edited on March 5, 2012 at 5:17 PM. Reason : and texas for that matter, should we be pulling for them?]

3/5/2012 5:14:46 PM

yeah but Stanford didn't break into the top-100 until they beat Cal yesterday

3/5/2012 5:19:12 PM

With Texas I think a first round loss is best, but if they win we hope they pile up as many wins as possible to give us a quality win

3/5/2012 5:22:16 PM

^^well I'm certain espnu will be showing our resume a bajillion times during the game so worst case scenario is we find out then

^good call, either nothing or all, think I'll take that stance with miami as well

[Edited on March 5, 2012 at 5:24 PM. Reason : .]

3/5/2012 5:23:51 PM

I really think it's us or Miami, the ACC isn't getting six teams. The only scenario where we'd want Miami to go all the way is if we also make it to the final. Us winning 2 games and them flaming out in their first or second game is our best bet to make the tournament.

3/5/2012 5:39:37 PM

They don't do it by how many teams get in from each conference, they evaluate teams individually.

I'm certainly not one to shy away from possible conspiracy theories, but after 20+ years of watching selection Sunday I can tell you they are definitely biased into taking more major conference teams than anything.

It won't come down to oh if we take Miami then we can't take state or vice versa. Now it certainly could come down to us two for the very last spot but that's just bc our resumes are very close and we are both squarely on the bubble

3/5/2012 5:52:10 PM

3/5/2012 5:57:53 PM

^^ while on the topic of conspiracies, do they allow teams in that may open up the door to certain markets? Cuz in this case we will not be adding much since UNC and Duke already bring in a ton of viewers. But, it would help the west coast schools.

[Edited on March 5, 2012 at 5:58 PM. Reason : sa]

3/5/2012 5:58:29 PM

random topic

I feel like a terrible state fan for not realizing that Spud Webb went to NC State.

http://d.lib.ncsu.edu/collections/catalog/0002856



[Edited on March 6, 2012 at 10:50 AM. Reason : did we retire his jersey?]

3/6/2012 10:50:02 AM

Ref is all

3/6/2012 10:52:49 AM

Quote :

"while on the topic of conspiracies, do they allow teams in that may open up the door to certain markets? Cuz in this case we will not be adding much since UNC and Duke already bring in a ton of viewers. But, it would help the west coast schools. "

this nigga...

3/6/2012 10:54:34 AM

Quote :

"Last Four In Northwestern Seton Hall Drexel Xavier First Four Out Texas Tennessee Oregon NC State Next Four Out Miami Iona Arizona Saint Joseph's "

i'm thinking 3 wins is enough. not to mention several "x loses to y" conference tournament scenarios

[Edited on March 6, 2012 at 11:15 AM. Reason : .]

3/6/2012 11:13:01 AM

I thought everyone said last night that we wanted Drexel to lose because even with their 19-game win streak they wouldn't be considered at-large. Well all you fucks were wrong and made me cheer for the wrong team last night.

3/6/2012 11:46:31 AM

^ wow you are pretty stupid. If Drexel won last night, VCU would be in the first 4 in. Drexel has a much weaker resume than VCU thanks to their awful SOS so it was better for us that VCU won and put a Drexel team on the bubble with a horrible SOS. Just because Lunardi has them in right now does not mean shit.

3/6/2012 11:51:11 AM

Fuck what Lunardi says.

Drexel sports a 227 strength of schedule. They only played 3 top 50 games all year and their only win in one was to VCU who until last night was a bubble team at best. Their only major conference game was against UVA, and they scored 35 pts on them at a neutral site.

If Drexel gets in, I'm protesting college basketball.

3/6/2012 11:54:57 AM

drexel scored 35 points in their only game against a team from a major conference. (virginia)

http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=313230258

3/6/2012 11:55:26 AM

hahaha. 49-35? what the fuck?

3/6/2012 12:16:35 PM

I think the only way to really compare us to Drexel is that they beat Princeton by 4 while we only beat Princeton by 2

3/6/2012 12:40:31 PM

Quote :

"I'll be completely shocked if he comes back after this year."

I won't. This draft is pretty good, and he can go higher next year. I think he realizes that another year will bump up his stock. However, I don't think he'll stay 4.

Rivers won't go this year. His dad won't let him go unless it is absolutely certain he will be a lottery pick, which he probably won't be this year but will be next year. Going pro early doesn't help him in any way.

On the topic of Drexel, Colorado had a MUCH better resume than them last year with 4 Top 25 RPI wins. But they got passed up because they had a 300+ OOC SOS. Drexel has 1 top 50 win over a bubble team (before the automatic bid) and a 228 non-conference SOS, 259 overall.

[Edited on March 6, 2012 at 3:30 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2012 3:25:05 PM

https://twitter.com/#!/Lee_Folwer/status/177138226899845121

Lawl

[Edited on March 6, 2012 at 4:12 PM. Reason : d]

3/6/2012 4:11:46 PM

ahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
I laughed way too hard at that

3/6/2012 4:46:46 PM

This one is pretty good too as well as the Rabbi, Priest, Howell traveling one:

Quote :

"i'm pretty excited about today's state-va. tech game. we'll finally find out who the league hates most; seth greenberg or richard howell."

3/6/2012 4:52:50 PM

If we beat UVA, I'll say it was a good year.

3/6/2012 5:09:12 PM

Brogdon and Sene will both be out when we play them, if we manage to beat BC.

3/6/2012 5:19:29 PM

Bobby Lutz deserves his own appreciation thread

3/8/2012 4:24:53 PM

Quote :

"Coach L Folwer ? @Lee_Folwer Reply Retweet Favorite · Open fwiw, if you ever eat at cafe risque, be careful when you order the meat loaf surprise."

3/8/2012 4:29:39 PM

I need an update on who to pull for.

Washington and Northwestern both lost for us.

3/8/2012 7:47:03 PM

I guess right now Va Tech since we beat them?

Cal over Standford

Miami
Texas?

3/8/2012 7:53:36 PM

Pull for Oregon to lose tonight

So apparently our SOS fell from 19 to 30 today. And we are 52 in the RPI, but in typical NC State shit form Texas and Miami are 51 and 53

3/8/2012 7:54:51 PM

yup Beating BC hurt, lol. need the BCS and we could have beat them by 50 and picked 5 RPI rankings.

But it should go back up when we play UVA.

[Edited on March 8, 2012 at 7:59 PM. Reason : f]

3/8/2012 7:59:09 PM

I thought we were past the point of thinking that RPI was a major factor into the committee's decision

3/8/2012 8:00:22 PM

dino gaudio thinks we are an ncaa team. so that accounts for a lot.

3/8/2012 8:03:14 PM

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/

3/8/2012 8:04:11 PM

Quote :

"Key games today (besides NC State & Miami) Bubble Teams in Bold need to lose to help NC State. Washington vs Oregon State (3:00)* Northwestern vs Minnesota (5:30)* Arizona vs UCLA (5:30) Colorado State vs TCU (5:30) USF vs Notre Dame (9:00) Stanford vs California (9:00) Texas vs Iowa State (9:30) Miss State vs Georgia (10:00) Oregon vs Colorado (11:30)"

3/8/2012 8:06:52 PM

can we get a #SCtop10 TDT put-back dunk started

I think calvins dunk is/should be top 10!

Zona up with 1:30 to go

[Edited on March 8, 2012 at 8:11 PM. Reason : f]

3/8/2012 8:10:37 PM

espn just called texas rpi 50 on the screen crawler

[Edited on March 8, 2012 at 8:30 PM. Reason : espn insiderpi or some shit]

3/8/2012 8:29:43 PM