Whatever, as long as we beat UNC it's a successful season.

That being said, I would entertain the idea of hiring Bill Cowher.

Not that I don't love TOB (I really do), but something needs to happen. Really feel he and his team are excellent recruiters and motivators, but just fail hardcore at calling plays.

9/10/2011 10:57:47 PM

yeah, they were really motivated that first quarter/half

9/10/2011 10:58:46 PM

I was referring to the off-the-field presence of the team and the staff.

The first half was marred by horrible play calling. I urge you to disagree with that statement.

9/10/2011 11:01:17 PM

Whole lot of football to be played. This dooms day talk seems like the unc "boycott academics" talk. I like to thing that we are better than that. Save the fire TOB stuff for the end of the season not the SECOND GAME.

9/10/2011 11:04:20 PM

Excellent recruiters? Wtf?

9/10/2011 11:04:54 PM

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"Whatever, as long as we beat UNC it's a successful season. That being said, I would entertain the idea of hiring Bill Cowher. "

it takes more than one game to have a successful season. beating those d-bags is cake icing.

and everyone would "entertain" the idea of cowher. the problem is that he wouldn't.

[Edited on September 10, 2011 at 11:06 PM. Reason : ]

9/10/2011 11:06:36 PM

i mean, we seem to have the same problem as last year where we came out flat at times to start the game and got behind early.

9/10/2011 11:07:16 PM

Defense folded quick and allowed some dumb TDs before the offense turned it around. My real question is what has happened to Manning? He used to be as explosive as Nate and Earl. Now he just looks like another body out there.

9/10/2011 11:21:23 PM

I am also not THAT disappointed either. It was definitely irritating watching reverses and halfback passes allowed to work when normally our DE's play very solid at maintaining their positions and not over-pursuing.

I'm just a lot happier that although we were down, those kids never gave up, especially Glennon. He actually didn't try to force anything too much when we got down. Running game was really impressive all day.

What really seemed to change Glennon's outlook was the INT. It's almost like he needed it. And as much as i don't like to lose, I think its going to benefit us in the long run as well.

I also liked TOB's press conference. Never heard him or an NCSTATE coach that mad after a loss, that I recall.

9/10/2011 11:35:01 PM

MG had a heckofa second real game: 314 yds, 7.7 ypa, 3 TD, 1 int (2nd half >> 1st). And the O-line looks like they might be getting their act together.

Bryan missed a couple of crucials, but he caught 3 for 40 yds and a td (and that crazy 1-handed jump-ball 1st dn). And our new WR corp looked promising: TJGraham for 117 and a TD, Tobais Palmer for 96 and a TD. And Graham was couple yards shy of running back another kick return and adding to his record for most return yards @ NCSU (and 5th in ACC history), but alas, it was was called back for a silly blocking penalty behind the play.

Underwood and Washington both did their part. Hopefully Mustafa's return will encourage our running game to be more of a factor.

defense lost the game. hopefully that will improve (especially upon the return of captain sweezy. and rieskamp (and teal). DBs, STEP IT UP!!

(imo. i assume a lot of these irrational posters are intoxicated too?)

9/11/2011 12:10:09 AM

^^
^^^

Both good points. It is especially irritating to watch Wake get away with those plays every year. Maybe not last year since we destroyed them but TOB should have them prepared for those plays. We will be OK. The Atlantic is just as crap as us. I don't care if FSU is ranked #4. They haven't earned it.

[Edited on September 11, 2011 at 12:12 AM. Reason : .]

9/11/2011 12:11:48 AM

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"defense lost the game"

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"Save the fire TOB stuff for the end of the season not the SECOND GAME"

anybody who is talking about firing TOB at this point is an idiot imo and not to be taken seriously

[Edited on September 11, 2011 at 12:17 AM. Reason : .]

9/11/2011 12:16:00 AM

Clemson scraped by the Terriers.
Maryland looked a little better than last year (when we should have demolished them).
BC is BC.
FSU will be a prayer.
This is the ACC. Beds will be a shat. Not just ours.

9/11/2011 12:17:39 AM

Fire qntmfred

9/11/2011 12:34:23 AM

Having trouble finding the postgame audio. Can someone help a brother out?

9/11/2011 12:43:13 AM

I MOTHERFUCKING TOLD YOU IDIOTS


PAY ME BITCHES

9/11/2011 12:45:33 AM

Gloating for a loss. This has become the tar pit.

9/11/2011 12:47:07 AM

^^black african non white caucasian jesus:

russell wilson would have lost this game with the same score.

when did you say the defense was going to have it's worst day since the duke game in 2009?
remember when wilson lost to duke at home? oh yeh.

[Edited on September 11, 2011 at 12:50 AM. Reason : z]

9/11/2011 12:49:41 AM

I was at the Duke game.

My boy Danny Dembry #18 did the wolf puppies in. It was fucking awesome

9/11/2011 1:03:50 AM

this is such bullshit. we should not be trading wins with wake fucking forest. it's even more unacceptable than losing to ECU

TOB has until the end of the 2012 season. That's the trade he made - he gets a pass this year if we make a legitimate run at the ACC title in Glennon's senior year. If the rest of the team (no more bullshit excuses, it will be 100% his team) still sucks and/or Glennon isn't good, he can fuck off just like every other coach in our history

9/11/2011 1:10:31 AM

throw computer out window, jump out said window

9/11/2011 1:38:25 AM

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"My boy Danny Dembry #18 did the wolf puppies in. It was fucking awesome"

Your boy danny was giving handjobs outside the locker room is what I heard.

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"it's even more unacceptable than losing to ECU"

really?

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"he can fuck off just like every other coach in our history"

Lou Holtz, Dick Sheridan, Earl Edwards. Wut?

9/11/2011 1:44:58 AM

^^^Glennon played pretty good dude.....

[Edited on September 11, 2011 at 1:46 AM. Reason : stupidity]

9/11/2011 1:45:54 AM

i really dont know where you guys get the idea that its ok to lose to wake. did you see the stands? we basically had a home game

id be pissed about this if daniel evans was the qb

9/11/2011 2:50:10 AM

^TOB agrees

9/11/2011 4:26:19 AM

Yall act like yall are shocked by the outcome. I TOLD YALL LAST WEEK WE WERE GONNA GET OUR SHIT PUSHED BACK.

If you can't dominate a FCS team why would yall think we can beat a BCS school. Stop crying bitches

9/11/2011 8:57:41 AM

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"That being said, I would entertain the idea of hiring Bill Cowher. "

Oh, you'd entertain that idea, would you? That's big news. I'm 50/50 on whether or not I'd want one of the best NFL coaches of the last 25 years to be the NC State head football coach. I think I'd rather hold out for Belichick.

^ you act like predicting a loss for a school with a history of losing is monumental

[Edited on September 11, 2011 at 9:16 AM. Reason : i deleted your last post because it was a troll and a broken picture -- now knock off the trolling]

9/11/2011 9:03:41 AM

To everyone saying wake is a constant bottom feede we should always beat remember no one likes to play in WS and that wake was the 06 acc champ and from 06-08 had 11, 9, and 8 win seasons. They have a chance every year to surprise the hell out of anyone. Thats one of the reasons acc football is so much fun

9/11/2011 9:04:46 AM

wake forest has a scrappy team year in and year out. last year was a down season for them, but they are still always competitors.

I don't understand why our team doesn't get it. WF sure does. Maybe it is their coach. I have always liked their coach.

I had a bad feeling about this game all week but I thought State would pull it out.

9/11/2011 9:27:19 AM

Wake Forest is a shitty team to have on your schedule early. A lot of gimmick and misdirection plays. And our defensive line is giving the qb waaaaay to much time to pass.

[Edited on September 11, 2011 at 9:36 AM. Reason : asdf]

9/11/2011 9:35:42 AM

ITT: Failure to recognize sarcasm.

Also, Glennon didn't have a good game. He lucked out on two bombs which basically double his passing yardage. Consistency wins football games, when you get to the point when you have to start throwing them 65 yards you're already in a bad place.

That being said, I was glad to see that he can actually throw that far. We've been hearing about his arm-cannon for a long time now and that was the first deep ball he's ever actually thrown.

9/11/2011 9:37:18 AM

I wouldn't say that he really lucked out on those passes. They were both plays where the ball was thrown where it needed to be and the receiver had the defensive back beat. He can air it out. Those passes still count, ya know?

9/11/2011 9:40:28 AM

^No everyone who watches football knows that only passes <10yds count everything else is just luck

9/11/2011 9:43:22 AM

when you watch other team's offenses (especially wake) you can see that their offense has a purpose. They have things that they are going to come out and run on you and exploit from the defense until changes are made.

We seem to have no purpose on offense. Its like we pull a lever and take the play that comes out and we run a random shuffle of 5 different plays all game. Its been like this since TOB got here. Then, when the game is lost, our offense suddenly has purpose and aggressively peruses to go down the field and score. If only we could come out and play like we are down, 21 points, we would have a pretty good offense.

Yes this game was the defenses fault but wake is a team that is pretty tricky on offense and dogshit on defense. We should have beat them in a shootout. 6 points in the first half was inexcusable. I thought we were playing that way because Glennon wasn't capable of making throws beyond 10 yards but that obviously was proven wrong in the 2nd half.

9/11/2011 9:57:24 AM

I think glennon was being restricted in the first half and in the second half they let him just run with it. Our vanilla offensive approach is trying to establish a steady ground game by pounding it down their throats (Wisconsin is a great example of this style right now).

[Edited on September 11, 2011 at 10:07 AM. Reason : ads]

9/11/2011 10:01:58 AM

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"And our defensive line is giving the qb waaaaay to much time to pass."

This was pretty much the ball game.

Wake has a chance to surprise people if they can get their defense together. Price is dangerous at QB ... which still baffles me considering how bad he was last year.

9/11/2011 10:06:32 AM

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"Price is dangerous at QB"

Possibly but it is easy to pick apart a zone when you have 4 hours to pass the ball.

9/11/2011 10:08:23 AM

watching the game again. shit we played a great second half with the exception really of 1 play. glennon. george bryan. coaching decisions. even the D-fense for the most part... but...

9/11/2011 10:17:43 AM

I'll put it this way I feel much better about our offense but the defense still worries me (we need our injured players back ASAP so we can finally put some pressure on). The difference between last years defense and the previous years was simply the ability of our defense to put pressure on opposing teams QB's and force quick throws.

9/11/2011 10:19:41 AM

100% man. you have to get to the qb in about 3 seconds and it works brilliantly. sweezy back in the lineup with rieskamp, which are 2 absolute beasts will be a big boost in the coming 2 weeks

mustafa green in on the running game will be a major influx of life into the offense as well. i mean can you imagine underwood being our #3 back??

it's gonna get real interesting as the year goes on as we get these important players back and glennon/receivers and OLine mesh.

9/11/2011 10:24:38 AM

Yea the key to the D's issues this year is the lack of pressure on the QB. Price had all day yesterday.

This has some to do with injuries, but I think the larger issue is this staff's inability to recruit quality pass rushers. Every year we are patching holes on an untalented defensive line with JUCO kids.

9/11/2011 10:27:51 AM

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"i mean can you imagine underwood being our #3 back"

Honestly I think he should be #1 right now with Washington backing him up. He just seems way more productive than Washington at this point. Maybe he isn't blocking as well or something like that?

9/11/2011 10:40:15 AM

^ I agree that underwood should be #1, but both washington and underwood were pretty effective in the 1st half, then we got down so much that we were forced to pass. But the run game wasn't bad yesterday.

On defense we just seem so much slower than wake. We would pressure the qb, or get to the rb in the backfield but we were just chasing him around because we seemed like we were running in quicksand. It's like we just lack athleticism or speed on D. Maybe that'll change when we get healthy.

9/11/2011 11:03:25 AM

It wasn't so much slower as just being out of position. Wake constantly throws misdirection at you to force you to play slower.

9/11/2011 11:13:36 AM

imagine slay backing up sweezy, and reiskamp out there reeking havoc.

then throw mustafa into the running mix.. hell even as another wr or blocker for glennon. we are going to have some fucking awesome games once we get grooved.

9/11/2011 11:19:59 AM

this is NC State, and this is TWW.

NO OPTIMISM ALLOWED! YOU WILL CRY AND BITCH AND WHINE, AND YOU WILL LIKE IT!

9/11/2011 11:22:41 AM

^^^ I know wake runs a lot of misdirection, but I was just talking about in general we seemed slow. WRs, QB everyone was evading our tackling

[Edited on September 11, 2011 at 11:23 AM. Reason : Gh]

9/11/2011 11:23:23 AM

d7freestyler stop post stalking me

9/11/2011 11:24:51 AM

not until you realize your mistakes.

9/11/2011 11:27:53 AM

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"Also, Glennon didn't have a good game. He lucked out on two bombs which basically double his passing yardage. "

You've got to be shitting me. Did you really say that?

9/11/2011 11:42:05 AM