tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, because when he says "plant" he is referring to a fucking Azalea. 3/25/2012 11:21:12 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
That FB post has NOTHING to do with this case.
Wow, someone help this kid. 3/25/2012 11:22:33 PM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, because when the media paints this picture of this perfect little angel gunned down by a white man, his past of talking about weed on FB has nothing to do with this.
If he is into drugs, then its not that far fetched that he might be up to other illegal activities.
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:24 PM. Reason : m] 3/25/2012 11:24:04 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Does that FB post change the fact the Mr. Zimmerman pursued Trayvon?
It is KNOWN he was going to store for goodies during halftime.
How do you forget this KNOWN facts?
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:26 PM. Reason : /] 3/25/2012 11:25:43 PM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
It's not illegal to follow someone.
Quote : | "It is KNOWN he was going to store for goodies during halftime.
How do you forget this KNOWN facts? " |
Yeah, drug deals never go down at a gas station
Perhaps he also had the munchies from smoking weed?
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:27 PM. Reason : ,]3/25/2012 11:26:39 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Nope sure isn't, no one EVER said it was illegal, but what it does do it negate a self-defense claim if the case would have been investigated properly.
Wow, when did drugs come up ever?
Do you know something that I don't?
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:28 PM. Reason : /] 3/25/2012 11:27:34 PM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
The kid didn't have a criminal record unlike that jackass who attacked an officer. 3/25/2012 11:27:49 PM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
^^Actually it doesn't.
But you are MORE than welcome to keep thinking that.
Seriously, you really really really are.
It's your right as an American.
^The guy got in a bar fight near the UFC campus while he was drunk and got charged with resisting arrest "non violent"
Stop acting like he fucking shot a cop or beat his wife.
And lets not forget angel Trayvon was suspended from school when this happened.
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:29 PM. Reason : .]
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:30 PM. Reason : .] 3/25/2012 11:28:38 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
OK, lets go down to the candle light vigil and have this discussion?
Since when is resisting arrest NEVER violent?
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:30 PM. Reason : /] 3/25/2012 11:30:05 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^Nobody with a brain actually thought he was a perfect angel. When I was 17 and without my car on family trips, I took walks to the store so I could smoke weed, stare at trees, and get freaked out by animal noises in the dark.
Obviously, I wasn't shot dead. So that's good for me, I guess.
(And Zimmerman never said anything about seeing Trayvon sell drugs at a gas station so let's stop pretending like Trayvon's friend asking for weed on Facebook actually factors in to the scenario.)
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:31 PM. Reason : ] 3/25/2012 11:30:37 PM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
Can I stand on the side supporting the freedom of Zimmerman?
Quote : | "And Zimmerman never said anything about seeing Trayvon sell drugs at a gas station so let's stop pretending like Trayvon's friend asking for weed on Facebook actually factors in to the scenario." |
Nooooo.....but he did say "I think he is on drugs or something"
Which seems to hold a little more weight if it turns out that Trayvon was actually into drugs now doesn't it?
It will be funny to see when Trayvons toxicology report comes back and its positive.
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:32 PM. Reason : k]3/25/2012 11:30:45 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Just don't quit posting when you become the laughing stock of TWW when he is arrested.
^ Again, you atually TRUST the JUDGEMENT of MR. Zimmerman?
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:33 PM. Reason : /] 3/25/2012 11:32:12 PM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
Arrested doesn't mean he is guilty.
Innocent till PROVEN guilty friend.
Call me when he actually gets convicted of something serious. 3/25/2012 11:32:57 PM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
Resisting arrest should've meant no gun permit allowed...I don't want criminals having the right to carry a gun. 3/25/2012 11:33:35 PM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
This will be really interesting if he does show positive for something.
If he was a weed smoker, he probably smoked out while he was out of school on suspension, so if he tests positive any defense lawyer worth a damn would argue that Trayvon was high on drugs that night of the incident and that will TOTALLY change this case.
So, one could argue based on the 911 call of suspicious and looks like he is on drugs claim, that one cold say that Trayvon was smoking a doobie on his walk home, which is illegal, and could be one reason he ran. Which makes him a criminal since he was breaking the law and gives Zimmerman reasonable cause to pursue him.
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:36 PM. Reason : ,] 3/25/2012 11:35:02 PM |
Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
3/25/2012 11:36:02 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
If you thought someone was high on drugs, would you pursue them? 3/25/2012 11:36:05 PM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
^^^So everyone who smokes weed should get murdered??? You forget the kid didnt have a weapon.
^^ haha!
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:38 PM. Reason : .] 3/25/2012 11:36:48 PM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
Doesn't matter.
It's not illegal to do so.
Quote : | "So everyone who smokes weed should get murdered??? You forget the kid didnt have a weapon." |
This is where you people just aren't getting it.
According to the law in Florida you don't have to. And I can shoot you dead to defend myself and its perfectly legal to do so.
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:37 PM. Reason : .]3/25/2012 11:36:52 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Would you or would you not? 3/25/2012 11:37:18 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Innocent till PROVEN guilty friend." |
He shot and killed someone. Done.3/25/2012 11:37:48 PM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He shot and killed someone. Done." |
Believe it or not.
Sometimes it IS legal to shoot and kill someone.
This is what some of you just don't get.3/25/2012 11:38:32 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
I like how he is dodging very basic questions. 3/25/2012 11:38:46 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If he was a weed smoker, he probably smoked out while he was out of school on suspension, so if he tests positive any defense lawyer worth a damn would argue that Trayvon was high on drugs that night of the incident and that will TOTALLY change this case.
So, one could argue based on the 911 call of suspicious and looks like he is on drugs claim, that one cold say that Trayvon was smoking a doobie on his walk home, which is illegal, and could be one reason he ran. Which makes him a criminal since he was breaking the law and gives Zimmerman reasonable cause to pursue him." |
This may have worked like 50 years ago, but nowadays, juries wouldn't fall for this they know what weed actually does to people. Even Pat Robertson has been calling for the legalization of marijuana.3/25/2012 11:39:02 PM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Would you or would you not?" |
It doesn't matter what I would do.
But if I chose to, it would not be illegal.
Which is the only thing that matters.
Quote : | "This may have worked like 50 years ago, but nowadays, juries wouldn't fall for this they know what weed actually does to people. Even Pat Robertson has been calling for the legalization of marijuana." |
Yeah, true. Cause if I'm high on weed and get in a car accident and kill someone I'm not going to be convicted of killing someone because weed isn't that bad.
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:40 PM. Reason : .]3/25/2012 11:39:48 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
You still have not answered the question.
Yes or No. 3/25/2012 11:40:31 PM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
Its right above you. 3/25/2012 11:41:08 PM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
^There is a huge burden of proof on Zimmerman to show he was threatened especially when his gordito ass could've waited for the cops. You sound like you're looking for an excuse to pop a cap in someone.
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:42 PM. Reason : Gun ownership is not a joke!] 3/25/2012 11:42:01 PM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
"I was following someone while on the phone with 911 that was being suspicious in order to let the cops know their location. While doing so said person attacked me and I shot them with my legal gun in order to defend myself. I have a witness to prove he was attacking me and the wounds also."
All he needs. 3/25/2012 11:43:35 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
I don't not see a conclusive answer in your post.
Let me ask this as if you were a fifth grader ...
If you were the neighborhood watchman, and you thought and individual was high on drugs, would you pursue the individual?
You have only two choices for an answer - YES or NO. 3/25/2012 11:43:44 PM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
No.
But I am not George Zimmerman.
And it was not illegal for him to do so. 3/25/2012 11:45:12 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
OK, this is what he has to answer for, why did he pursue the individual when he apparently believed (since he was carrying a gun) deadly force may be used, and not let the police handle it when NO ONE was under an eminent threat of an assault or a felonious crime? How can he justify that his actions are within the scope of being protected by the law?
Can you answer that for me?
I am not saying he can't be protected by the law, I am saying he has a LOT of convincing to do, which I am not sure he is capable of doing.
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:53 PM. Reason : /] 3/25/2012 11:52:21 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Believe it or not.
Sometimes it IS legal to shoot and kill someone.
This is what some of you just don't get." |
I wasn't arguing for his conviction, I was arguing for his arrest. Is killing someone not enough for arrest in your book?
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:58 PM. Reason : ]3/25/2012 11:57:45 PM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
IT'S NOT AGAINST THE LAW TO FOLLOW SOMEONE YOU STUPID FUCKING IDIOT.
That's the only thing that matters.
You aren't really chasing someone or stalking them when they suddenly just take off running while you are in your car and you follow after them to see where they ran off to.
How did some of you even get into college?
Quote : | "I wasn't arguing for his conviction, I was arguing for his arrest. Is shooting someone not enough for arrest in your book?" |
Depends on the circumstances.
People shoot other people all the time and don't get arrested.
Just because you shoot someone, doesn't mean its an arrestable offence.
Thats what some of you just aren't understanding.
[Edited on March 25, 2012 at 11:58 PM. Reason : ,]3/25/2012 11:57:49 PM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
Is killing someone enough to arrest them? 3/26/2012 12:00:05 AM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
^^You can't really claim self defense after purposely putting yourself in a situation and kill the kid with skittles.
Are you related to zimmerman?
[Edited on March 26, 2012 at 12:01 AM. Reason : .] 3/26/2012 12:01:10 AM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
You say it doesn't matter?
Because Mr. Zimmerman followed Trayvon, this is why this case gained so much national attention. His probable notions for following him has obviously exacerbated the situation, and you some how forget that. Had Trayvon walked up and slapped Mr.Zimmerman and he then shot and killed Trayvon, you would have never heard about this.
[Edited on March 26, 2012 at 12:04 AM. Reason : /] 3/26/2012 12:01:23 AM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Because Mr. Zimmerman followed Trayvon, this is why this case gained so much national attention." |
No, the reason this gained so much national attention is because the media reported it as a "White man guns down unarmed kid in gated community who only had Skittles and a Soda on him"
When in reality it was a hispanic guy who shot a 6'3" 150ish pound black high school football player who was on top of him beating him in a not so nice gated apartment complex.
How many times have Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton come to support or defend a white victim?
When they show up, you knows its a racial situation.
[Edited on March 26, 2012 at 12:07 AM. Reason : ,]3/26/2012 12:04:33 AM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
You think if Trayvon would have walked up to Mr. Zimmerman in this gated community and slapped him, and Mr. Zimmerman killed Trayvon Standing his Ground, do you think you would know about it?
You only have two answer choices YES or NO. 3/26/2012 12:07:26 AM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
Yes.
My parents live in Florida and I read Florida news sites, so the chances of me coming across it are pretty great.
[Edited on March 26, 2012 at 12:08 AM. Reason : ,] 3/26/2012 12:08:00 AM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
So the Feds, and DoJ being involved doesn't hint that something is wrong here, all but saying that State of Florida is not capable of enforcing a law that it created itself? 3/26/2012 12:12:00 AM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
No, they were called in to investigate before fucking riots started in that town and Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton started putting a bounty on Zimmerman.
Ok, lets just agree to disagree at this point because it seems we are just walking in circles.
What will it take to admit that you are wrong?
After the feds, DOJ and grand jury choose not to arrest him?
What?
What other evidence will have to come forward to show this isn't a clear case of "gunning down a black kid" for fun?
If it turns out that they find that Trayvon was high on drugs and attacked Zimmerman and he lawfully defended himself? Is that enough?
Or that Zimmerman was just defending himself from Trayvon who was beating him?
What will it take before you admit you are wrong?
[Edited on March 26, 2012 at 12:16 AM. Reason : .] 3/26/2012 12:14:45 AM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Mr. Zimmerman on the stand defending his actions. 3/26/2012 12:17:43 AM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
So just Zimmerman on the stand defending his actions is all that is needed for you to admit you are wrong?
What? 3/26/2012 12:21:57 AM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
Yep. 3/26/2012 12:22:20 AM |
tacolu Suspended 1136 Posts user info edit post |
So he gets on the stand, defends his actions, is actually found guilty which is what you say he is, but as far as our argument is concerned that would make you wrong?
What? 3/26/2012 12:23:16 AM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
I don't understand what you are trying to ask. Can you break that down in at least 2-3 sentences for me? 3/26/2012 12:28:05 AM |
Marlo Veteran 275 Posts user info edit post |
Where is Nancy Grace on all of this?
What's that? The victim was a black kid? Oh, nevermind. 3/26/2012 12:30:14 AM |
Klatypus All American 6786 Posts user info edit post |
^lol, I wondered the same thing 3/26/2012 12:32:48 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Let me summarize Tacolu:
-Black kid. Rumored facebook photo mentioning "plants." Tacolu's conclusion: Maybe he was going to deal drugs at the gas station and he was on his way back from dealing drugs.
-White man. Arrest record for dropped charges from resisting arrest on a police officer. Tacolu's conclusion: STOP JUDGING HIM! 3/26/2012 12:51:07 AM |