dude

vinnie jones as juggernaut is near-perfect casting

i hope its true...

4/15/2005 1:17:20 PM

the best way to work gambit into a movie IMO would be to make him a bad guy. Uncanny #350 reveals that he used to contract with Riptide and a group of other baddies to slaughter off the "untouchable" mutants in the sewers.

4/15/2005 8:56:11 PM

or hey
just leave him out of this trilogy

4/15/2005 11:17:14 PM

gambit's a worthless character

4/16/2005 12:09:19 AM

especially when they already have clones of that character development in the present movies

4/16/2005 12:28:56 AM

Holy crap, I'd love to see a Magneto movie.

And I agree, Vinne Jones as Juggernaut would be fantastic.

4/16/2005 12:53:51 AM

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"Uncanny #350 reveals that he used to contract with Riptide and a group of other baddies to slaughter off the "untouchable" mutants in the sewers"

Yeah that's right up there with the "Gambit is the third Summers brother" sub-plot as far as effective attempts to make Gamit interesting, which is to say not. And it's Marauders and Morlocks.

4/16/2005 5:44:02 AM

wait wait wait

they tried to make gambit a summers bro???

4/16/2005 7:36:57 AM

Briefly, they hinted at it for a little while (Mr. Sinister drops Cyclops a hint about having "brothers", bonding scenes with Gambit and Cyke start to happen, Gambit is revealed to have a mysterious connection to Sinister, he's an orphan, energy powers, and a few others), then when they got feedback from fans and realized it was a bad idea (Fans of Gambit didn't like him being a Summers and fans of the Summers tended not to like Gambit). Then they hinted that a backup character from X-Force "Adam X: the X-Treme" was actually the Summers half-brother when he rescued Grandpa Summers in the Alaskan wilderness (which he was supposed to be Scott/Alex's half-bro by their mother and the Shiar Emperor D'Ken, so that would actually not have been Adam's Grandpa), then to my knowledge they dropped the whole "more Summers Brothers" deal altogether (although I stopped following from 96-2000 and have been intermittent since then).

Wow I really wasted my youth.

4/16/2005 7:57:45 AM

I'm interested to see the character design for Juggernaut cuz...he's supposed to be ridiculously huge if I'm not mistaken ... lol

4/16/2005 11:06:28 AM

[Edited on April 16, 2005 at 11:27 AM. Reason : ]

4/16/2005 11:27:21 AM

Not quite X3 news but apparently the screenwriting for the Wolverine movie is underway, GUEST STARRING WOLVERINE!!!!11

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"Benioff said he wants to "rough" Wolverine up a bit, giving him an opportunity to show sides the first two movies didn't afford the character aside from the Mansion invasion scene in X2. Benioff promises a story that is a "bit darker and a bit more brutal," and says he's writing an 'R' script and that Marvel and the director will have to decide where to go from there. He also said he wants to stay away from the more "fantastical" elements and stick to realism. "...my concept of him for this movie is the one I grew up with: He's a gritty character, a tough, working-class Canadian guy who was born with certain special powers and granted more through a series of brutal experiments - for me that's my Wolverine reality. I'm not going too far from that.""

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31765

4/20/2005 9:28:38 AM

if i was jackman, i'd keep making x movies and wolverine movies until they ran out of film stock

4/20/2005 9:36:12 AM

if you were jackman you'd be a queer aussie ballet dancer

4/20/2005 9:46:52 AM

he's not gay, he just has british parents

4/20/2005 9:49:25 AM

That exchange makes me interpret this in a whole new light:

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"Benioff said he wants to "rough" Wolverine up a bit"

[Edited on April 20, 2005 at 9:53 AM. Reason : forgot an s]

4/20/2005 9:52:31 AM

I remember the first xmen cartoon too damn well to take Apoc seriously. His plans were always complicated and usually petty, and I never figured out why he didn't just go around smashing things.

"The A is for Apocalypse!"

4/20/2005 2:46:06 PM

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=9280

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"Many people wonder how Vaughn's approach will differ from Singer's two films. "I can empathize with what's gone on," he said. "I think Singer probably treats it in a more simplistic manner then I'm going to. It's going to expand on things. There's three or four scenes I know people will just be shocked and close to tears.""

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"Vaughn is hoping that his long-time pal Vinnie Jones would be in the movie, more than likely as Juggernaut, but he hasn't signed anything yet. "What's interesting about Juggernaut is that he's the brother of Professor X, and that's why I thought it would be interesting having an English thug opposite Patrick Stewart." "

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"He wouldn't tell us what his favorite comics were because they might give away the plot for X-Men 3. According to him, " they have become the basis for the film", but he did admit a fondness for Joss Whedon's recent run on the characters. "

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/4/prweb231395.htm

Former formidable ‘hard man’ footballer turned hollywood actor, Vinnie, has just been signed up to star alongside sexy Halle Berry and Sir Ian McKellen in the forthcoming sci-fi film.

http://www.hollywoodnorthreport.com/article.php?Article=1201

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"What our sources tell us now is that X-Men 3 will be shot entirely in Vancouver and BC, with filming tentatively scheduled to run August 1st thru early December 2005 at the Vancouver Film Studios. The 20th Century Fox film is slated to open May 26, 2006."

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"IGN FilmForce also confirms that the role of Kitty Pryde is being recast with the character stepping into the spotlight and being much larger in scope."

[Edited on April 23, 2005 at 3:13 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on April 23, 2005 at 3:17 PM. Reason : Kitty]

4/23/2005 3:10:26 PM

it seems a little early to make kitty a bigger part, since rogue is still only like 19

p.s., sucks for whomever played kitty the first time
just like the guy who got booted out of the Pyro role so that my boy Tadpole could get it

[Edited on April 23, 2005 at 3:56 PM. Reason : good ol' tadpole]

4/23/2005 3:55:27 PM

It's never too early to give Kitty a bigger part

Tadpole?

4/24/2005 6:13:45 AM

who was kitty in the movies, and where was she?

4/24/2005 6:36:21 AM

In the first one when wolverine goes back in to see Xavier at the end of a class, one of the students comes back because she forgets something, Xavier calls her Kitty then she walks through the door instead of opening it.

In X2 during the attack on the school, when Siren wakes everbody up another girl runs out through a wall and into Collosus' room if I'm not mistaken. And at the end Xavier says "I know a little girl that can walk trough walls" as a threat to the President.

Obviously both bit parts played by random bit actresses from the vancouver area.

4/24/2005 7:25:32 AM

"Tadpole" = Aaron Stanford
it was his first movie
he played a 15 year old who falls in love with his step-mother
i think he has a lot of potential
and he's already worked with some amazing directors in his short career (woody allen, spike lee, david mamet, bryan singer)

4/24/2005 11:27:00 AM

http://actionadventure.about.com/od/xmen3/p/aavaughnX3prev.htm

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"About.com caught up with X-Men 3 director Matthew Vaughn, who expects to be filming in August. Vaughn is also confident he can give everyone equal screen time. "As far as I know, Halle's doing the film. In the script, she's got a lot to do. I've got a lot of experience in dealing with a lot of character in a film, so multi-character movies don't intimidate me at all. I think I know how to get that balance." Vaughn also said that new characters will be introduced with a bit more presence than those in X2. "It's pretty hard to get to the forefront because there are some big guys you're going to have to squeeze past, but they'll have more to do." Vaughn added that he wants to add more reality to the film, and commented on the villains of the first two films. "I wanted the villains to be less [cartoony]. At the moment, I think a lot of moustache twirling happened in the last films. I want to get rid of that and make the villains really scary and more realistic." Vaughn added, "Gritty doesn't mean violent. I liked how Joss Whedon dealt with everything. That's more of my sentiment." He also said there will be as little CGI as possible. "I hate CGI. I'm trying to do everything in camera. Listen, there are times you have to use CGI, but I want to do as much in camera as possible. I'm a gamer, I like video games and when I watch movies, I feel like half the time you're watching an extended sequence on a game. You just switch it off." Vaughn said his biggest worry about X-Men 3 is time. "For me, it's just the time we've got a real problem about. They want us to come out next May and that's a problem. That's a hell of a lot to get done in 12 months. That's the only difficulty I foresee. Making a movie is making a movie. It doesn't matter what the budget it." Vaughn talked about how he got involved, and said that he is only signed on to direct X-Men 3, no more. "I will never sign anything which makes me have to do more than one film." Vaughn also commented on the pitfalls of comic book movies, and which comic book movies he liked."

I'm pretty excited about the notion of doing as little cgi as possible and that he's apparently such a fan of Joss Whedon. Could care less wether Halle Berry returns.

5/5/2005 5:22:00 AM

Kelsey Grammer cast as Beast:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=3023

Features Angel, Beast, Kitty Pryde and Juggernaut

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"ComingSoon.net/SuperheroHype.com got a chance to talk to Marvel Studios President and CEO Avi Arad on Tuesday afternoon about X-Men 3 and he revealed new details about the anticipated third installment. "It's about to go," Avi says about the film. We asked whether it would build on the first two films. "In my opinion, X3, from a story and script perspective, it's bigger than one and two. It's the concept behind the movie that's bigger than one and two. It's building on our world, building on the world of mutants. In movie one you got to know what a mutant is and had to deal with it visavis humanity and the brotherhood. The second one was actually sort of a continuation but we were able to have more fun with it." Which brings us to the big news. "And movie three features Angel, Beast, Kitty Pryde and Juggernaut. Right there you have worth the price of admission. And there are more, those are just the ones we can talk about. Juggernaut you had it already on your site, that is [Vinnie] Jones. That was accurate. Angel is not done yet, we're looking at a few guys, but it's a big role, so... we are very close, a few more days. Angel is a great emotional story. It's a very big role in this movie and so is Kitty Pryde, where we have some high choices that are great but it's just not locked up yet." Lost star Maggie Grace is in talks for the role. Then we got to Beast. "It was the best man for the job. The name is... Kelsey Grammer! If you would have seen his read. It is kinda weird when you think about it for a second, and the key was with the X-Men movies is get the best man for the job. He blew us out of the park. Yeah, yeah, and he's also my neighbor..." As we laughed, Arad reassured us that the "Frasier" star is the right man for the job. "When you look at it you see how again we are continuing with inspired choices." So what can we expect Grammer's Beast to be like? "Super intelligent. A pacifist Ph.D as he should be. I cannot tell you what he does in the movie because it's an amazing... it's a very big role in this movie. The subject matter of this movie, we don't take Beast lightly. It was someone that we didn't take into one and two because we were busy with other characters and Beast needs to be a centerpiece... and so is Angel, they had to be centerpieces. Too much going on within the story, the origin." We asked Avi whether Grammer will be wearing a suit like The Thing, played by Michael Chiklis, in Fantastic Four. "You will see Beast like you've never seen him before. It's going to be very true to the comic. Of course we're building a suit and hair, you name it. Without going into detail, he's a very central character here in the movie and very much within what Hank McCoy is, Dr. McCoy." Layer Cake director Matthew Vaughn is taking over from the first two films' director Bryan Singer. "I'm glad that 'Layer Cake' came out to help people understand who this guy is," said Arad. We've known him for a long time, but once we saw Layer Cake... You know he produces movies and he does understand the role, the sets and writing. There's a lot of functions. Some producers are lucky enough to take the plunge, to say 'that's it, I'm going to go for it'. Asked whether anyone from the first two movies is not coming back, Arad said that "they're all coming back." Is there anything we can expect for Dark Phoenix or Gambit? "Well, just saying that Famke is coming back, we'll leave it to people's imagination to figure it out. And no comment on Gambit." Avi added that 20th Century Fox expects to start shooting at the end of July. "We've been in active pre-production, costuming and all these things for quite a while. It's not starting at ground zero." While we also asked about the other projects in development (click here for his answers), we got a few brief update on the other possible films in the "X-Men" franchise. Arad said that the Wolverine spin-off is "being written, you know David Benioff is writing it. We'll look at it and at the end of the day, if the script gets everybody excited... if David just knocks it out of the park, we want to make it. The when will be answered when we read it." He just said that the Magneto spin-off is in development. Regarding X-Men 4, Arad said they'll have to wait and see. "You have to look at it. You say, 'Yeah I want to make X-Men 4', but let's see what we can make fresh and exciting that warrants making another one". X-Men 3 is currently scheduled for a May 26, 2006 release."

5/18/2005 3:31:38 PM

you know, that's not a bad casting choice

5/18/2005 3:48:58 PM

Yeah, he is pretty much spot on, the Beast's voice. I am just wondering if he will be able to handle the physical aspect of the role?

[Edited on May 18, 2005 at 3:54 PM. Reason : k]

5/18/2005 3:54:14 PM

That's what they have stunt doubles and CGI for.

5/18/2005 4:16:17 PM

its gonna be interesting to see how they make him go blue...

5/18/2005 6:38:28 PM

sideshow beast

5/18/2005 6:40:34 PM

we've already seen doc mccoy as a human though

5/18/2005 6:42:49 PM

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"That's what they have stunt doubles and CGI for."

yeah, but still, it will take some endurance and physical strength to lumber about in a big blue fur and rubber suit.

5/18/2005 6:55:02 PM

someone embed that footage of him falling off the stage

5/18/2005 7:33:32 PM

I wanna see what they do with Dr. McCoy. I loved that he was against violence if at all possible, and that he would only occasionally give over to his more beast-like nature. It was cool to see him get violent.

5/18/2005 8:18:44 PM

Kelsey Grammar as Beast is definately who I had on my dream cast, that's awesome!

5/19/2005 3:04:03 PM

5^ and we've see 4 different people play bruce wayne, and didn't a black guy in the first "batman" play harvey dent (aka two-face)? different people get cast to play the same role all the time

5/19/2005 3:15:13 PM

Beast was always my favorite, and Kelsey Grammar is a great idea. I can't wait for filming to start!

5/20/2005 10:14:54 AM

i can easily see Grammer as The Beast...

i'm more concerned about Vinnie Jones as Juggey... i'm not sure how well that one will pan out...

[Edited on May 20, 2005 at 10:34 AM. Reason : /]

5/20/2005 10:34:15 AM

i was always picturing brock lesnar as juggernaut

5/20/2005 10:36:43 AM

vinnie is a perfect cain marko

5/20/2005 10:40:44 AM

^ I concur. Holy shit, when I was thinking "Who'd make a good Juggy" Vinnie Jones popped up in my head.

5/20/2005 10:43:04 AM

you're never going to find someone who matches a character perfectly*
i mean, i wouldn't trade hugh jackman for some 5'3" stuntman
so you have to think, in a realistic world, we're not going to see a guy who is 6'9" of solid muscle as wide as a semi

but if you want an imposing, tall, well-worn individual - there are no better actors working than vinnie jones

(*except patrick stewart, and to a lesser extent alan cumming)

5/20/2005 10:48:28 AM

brock lesnar is as close to a semi as you could get

and who the hell is vinnie jones?

5/20/2005 10:55:32 AM

no
no
no
no more wrestlers plz

the guy who played sabertooth was enough thank you

vinnie jones = the big british guy



yeah, he's going for the ball there...


yeah, he's going for the ball there...

[Edited on May 20, 2005 at 11:04 AM. Reason : rough em up vinnie]

5/20/2005 11:01:00 AM

^^^ it's just that when i picture Cain Marko i picture someone who was a star quarterback-archetype who just happens to have ballooned beyond all reason... fair-haired and generally more of a jerk than someone who can do sadistically evil (like Jones can)...

and not british... but then, neither was Xavier (i always thought they were new englanders)

^ actually... when iw as thinking ahead to future characters some friends and i were trying to think of who we would cast as Bishop... the only one we could come up with who fit the bill was The Rock...

[Edited on May 20, 2005 at 11:03 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on May 20, 2005 at 11:04 AM. Reason : misread what you wrote... sorry]

5/20/2005 11:03:08 AM

uhm
the juggernaut was originally not as big as we know him today
(pictars sure to come)
i rescind that statement for lack of evidence

and as for vinnie's lack of experience

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"but if you want an imposing, tall, well-worn individual - there are no better actors working than vinnie jones"

please note that is a conditional statement, i'm not saying - there are no better actors working than vinnie jones

i'm saying that if you want a specific type of character
1. tall
2. imposing
3. well-worn
you will not find anyone who fits all three of those conditions better than vinnie jones

and cain marko is xavier's step brother, he can be from wherever the directors want him to be

hell, PATRICK STEWART IS BRITISH

dammit you fixed everything i commented on!

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"actually... when iw as thinking ahead to future characters some friends and i were trying to think of who we would cast as Bishop... the only one we could come up with who fit the bill was The Rock..."

no bishop, ever, plz

[Edited on May 20, 2005 at 11:11 AM. Reason : no bishop, no cable, no stryfe, no time travel, none of that shit]

[Edited on May 20, 2005 at 11:28 AM. Reason : `]

5/20/2005 11:10:28 AM

and i know that Juggey didn't always look huge... but even when he wasnt' huge he didn't look like street thug... he looked like an upper class asshole... kinda like how Tom Brady looks...

if the franchise is too successful then you KNOW you'll see Bishop, Cable, Time Travel, Stryfe...

the whole lot of them...

of course, the only benefit of that would be that we'd get Apocalypse out of the deal...

might anyway... any word on him being in this coming one... they have Angel, and if they wanna play with him then they need to make him blue eventually...

[Edited on May 20, 2005 at 11:14 AM. Reason : .]

5/20/2005 11:12:52 AM

OK, I'm thrilled with Grammer being cast as Beast. That is spot-on. I also think Jones as Juggernaut is a fantastic match.

I can remember way back in the early 90's, all of my friends would sit around and make up our own cast for X-Men movies. Michael Dorn was hands down our vote for Bishop. I just don't ever see Bishop making it into any of the movies, though.

But hey, I can dream. I'd love to see, above all else...



That'll never happen, though, and that's probably a really good thing.

[Edited on May 20, 2005 at 11:17 AM. Reason : stupid link]

5/20/2005 11:16:57 AM

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"they have Angel, and if they wanna play with him then they need to make him blue eventually..."

no
they really don't
the character of WWIII has a lot more depth than just ripping off his wings...
its enough that he can't really hide his mutation, no need to make him a blue skinned pariah, the wings will do that just fine

seriously
these movies are staged in a way that they have one foot in the real world

you say if the franchise is successful you KNOW you'll see blah blah blah
i say if they do that, they kill the market

i mean, i love the x-men as much as if not more than almost everybody in this thread
but i still do not get what the fuck cable was...

which is why i say, none of that shit

[Edited on May 20, 2005 at 11:20 AM. Reason : i'll admit, i went as Cable for halloween one year - when i was 10]

5/20/2005 11:18:41 AM

Please, god, no Cable. The most overhyped, overblown character in the X-Men saga. Afterall Rob Liefeld did create Cable (in part if not all) and I despise Liefeld. One of the shittiest, overhyped comic book artists and comic creators ever.

5/20/2005 11:31:40 AM