Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
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rjrgrl All American 27061 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.rainn.org/docs/statistics/2003facts.pdf
Quote : | "One in six American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape.
About 10% of sexual assault victims are men." |
10/19/2005 2:42:17 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
most of those attempted rapes probably were just guesses. if he didnt rape, how can it be said he was going to?
[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 2:44 PM. Reason : =] 10/19/2005 2:44:15 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
i hope that you people find yourself at a party with bubba joe who proceeds to get you so drunk you cant move before sliding his blistered penis into your ass
and then i hope that everyone accuses you of making it up for regretting it 10/19/2005 2:46:31 PM |
rjrgrl All American 27061 Posts user info edit post |
^add that to the list of reasons why i ♥ jon 10/19/2005 2:48:34 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i hope that you people find yourself at a party with bubba joe who proceeds to get you so drunk you cant move before sliding his blistered penis into your ass" |
I can see no plausable reason why anyone would need to be in this situation in the first place. Dont get drunk, wow what a concept.10/19/2005 2:56:04 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
cause if you are anywhere with alcohol and get raped its your fault
your consent is implied until you start screaming no and claw their eyes 10/19/2005 2:57:32 PM |
BIGswoll187 All American 3729 Posts user info edit post |
I know this is off topic but how much would a siberian huskey pup cost im just wondering 10/19/2005 2:58:55 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
mine was 200 10/19/2005 3:01:07 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
No, the point of this arguement is that she was intoxicated (in the artically) she wasnt mearly "near alcohol" she was crunk drunk. So I say again, why get drunk in the first place? 10/19/2005 3:02:15 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
because clearly if you are drunk your consent is implied and anything that happens to you is your fault 10/19/2005 3:03:47 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
thats not the question. read again:
why get drunk in the first place? 10/19/2005 3:05:51 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
some people drink socially
i dont think theres anything wrong with it 10/19/2005 3:07:16 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
drinking socially is one thing. getting drunk is another. know your limits. like I said, I see no reason why any person should get drunk. 10/19/2005 3:08:22 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
youve never been to WWII 10/19/2005 3:09:08 PM |
rjrgrl All American 27061 Posts user info edit post |
it doesnt matter why she got drunk 10/19/2005 3:09:46 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
but if someone is still learning their limits or maybe just messes up and gets drunk or maybe gets wasted every day
its ok to rape them
got it... thanks for clearing that up for me 10/19/2005 3:10:15 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, it seems that, for this case, the first link is that she was drunk. Now, that seems to be the first link in alot of things, not just rapes, but wrecks, shootings, etc....
so I ask again, WHY GET DRUNK? You prove that you do not have high self control or common sense if you do AND put yourself in compromising situations.
if your "learning your limits" do it at home or something, not Joe Blows 100+ person apartment party where you know 2 people.
Quote : | "maybe just messes up and gets drunk" |
yeah, right. Opps, I slipped and got drunk. Would be like saying "Opps he slipped and his penis went in her"
Quote : | "maybe gets wasted every day" |
then natural selection will take care of them soon enough, and they wont be able to function as a normal party of society for very long.
I did not say anywhere that it was ok to rape someone btw.10/19/2005 3:16:22 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
if you arent implying that being drunk makes it your fault for getting raped then theres no point discussing why would you get drunk
if theres no connection its a completely seperate issue
i applaud your attempt at changing the subject because it just makes you look like an insensitive douche, but if you really want to discuss why people drink make a thread about it 10/19/2005 3:18:54 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
i hope some big man shoves a broom handle up this guys uppity ass 10/19/2005 3:20:05 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
well, there really was no subject to the thread really, it just devolved into a pissing contest as to whether she deserved it or not.
and all I gotta say about that is the courts will decide, thats what they are there for. 10/19/2005 3:21:54 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
no you didnt let the court decide
you pretty much said she deserved it 10/19/2005 3:23:18 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
show me where I said that. 10/19/2005 3:24:25 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "can see no plausable reason why anyone would need to be in this situation in the first place. Dont get drunk, wow what a concept." |
dumb peice of shit10/19/2005 3:25:26 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
if that translates to you that "she deserved it" then you need to evaluate your comment for yourself.
my point was dont get drunk. as getting drunk seems to be the catalyst for alot of these things. 10/19/2005 3:26:53 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
i bet you think women should also just go ahead and cover their whole bodies so they dont have to worry about getting raped 10/19/2005 3:29:15 PM |
rufus All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i hope that you people find yourself at a party with bubba joe who proceeds to get you so drunk you cant move before sliding his blistered penis into your ass" |
Quote : | "I can see no plausable reason why anyone would need to be in this situation in the first place. Dont get drunk, wow what a concept." |
yeah, women should never drink because everyone knows that men go into a raping frenzy whenever there are drunken chicks around, a lot like when a shark smells blood in the water.10/19/2005 3:31:04 PM |
rjrgrl All American 27061 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Stay On-Topic - Try to stick with the topic. If you have something important to say that doesn't relate to the topic, then start a new topic. If you have something useless to say, keep it to yourself. " |
10/19/2005 3:31:46 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
I think people should not get drunk, as it spurs alot of this shit. Is that too hard of a concept for you to understand, or do you just like putting words in my mouth to hear yourself talk, cause you sound like a fucking retard.
Do you think the "rape" would have happened if alcohol was not involved, given the other evidence (college kids, prolly a party, etc...)? yes or no? 10/19/2005 3:33:01 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
can you just admit you are a worhtless peice of shit and stop trying to use your errant logic 10/19/2005 3:36:38 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
i agree. if you dont wanna get raped, dont get drunk. 10/19/2005 3:38:40 PM |
clcluppe All American 2044 Posts user info edit post |
i dont think that guy on page 2 is him...hes not 19 and not from clinton
its this guy http://ncst.facebook.com/profile.php?id=11816163 10/19/2005 3:40:09 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
exactly. getting drunk catalyzes alot of this shit. thats my point.
but mister big head jon thinks that means I think girls deserve to get raped? at least my logic makes sense dude. 10/19/2005 3:40:18 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "poor guy. guess he wasnt hot as fuck" |
heh
I didn't read all of the thread but why can't he try and charge her with sexual assault (since a male can't be raped in NC) ? If I was in his situation and innocent, I would do it.10/19/2005 3:44:39 PM |
rufus All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
^^your first post blamed the girl for putting herself in that situation, so yes, you said she deserved it
[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 3:45 PM. Reason : ] 10/19/2005 3:45:19 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
I think he can do that if he is found guilty? but wouldnt make much sense if hes innocent, but says he was sexually assaulted. I would think it would be counter intuitive to his case. 10/19/2005 3:46:24 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
jesus fucking christ people. my first post was on the first fucking page for one. for another I was responding to this comment:
Quote : | " "i hope that you people find yourself at a party with bubba joe who proceeds to get you so drunk you cant move before sliding his blistered penis into your ass" " |
Quote : | "I can see no plausable reason why anyone would need to be in this situation in the first place. Dont get drunk, wow what a concept." |
If you read what I typed it says "in this situation" which is in response to the first quote, which HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FUCKING RAPE IN THE TITLE OF THE THREAD.
so again, please, tell me how the fuck I say "she deserves it".10/19/2005 3:52:29 PM |
Shadowrunner All American 18332 Posts user info edit post |
a better title for this thread would have been "Rampant Speculation"
that said, it's the same thing that always happens in threads like this, so i should have expected it. 10/19/2005 3:53:49 PM |
Zepher All American 1457 Posts user info edit post |
Some one post of pic of this guy...the link isnt working for me 10/19/2005 3:56:22 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
omg its Zepher. where have u been? I forget what class we sat next to together and did crosswords all semester, some SOC class or something. 10/19/2005 3:58:18 PM |
Zepher All American 1457 Posts user info edit post |
Ha, I have been around...working and being in the real world now 10/19/2005 4:00:44 PM |
1234chs All American 2574 Posts user info edit post |
Someone post the picture of this kid 10/19/2005 4:01:59 PM |
Taikimoto All American 2039 Posts user info edit post |
I hear ya. Im playing the "Im looking for a job" card for while.
and im out. got shit to do but not really. 10/19/2005 4:02:34 PM |
clcluppe All American 2044 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do you think the other thousand people on this site want to read some personal shit between you and your buddy? - NO. Use mail instead. " |
[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 4:04 PM. Reason : a]10/19/2005 4:03:49 PM |
Zepher All American 1457 Posts user info edit post |
Those Crazy Redheads 10/19/2005 4:05:09 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "§ 14-27.3. Second-degree rape.
(a) A person is guilty of rape in the second degree if the person engages in vaginal intercourse with another person:
(1) By force and against the will of the other person; or
(2) Who is mentally disabled, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless, and the person performing the act knows or should reasonably know the other person is mentally disabled, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless." |
Quote : | "§ 14-27.5. Second-degree sexual offense.
(a) A person is guilty of a sexual offense in the second degree if the person engages in a sexual act with another person:
(1) By force and against the will of the other person; or
(2) Who is mentally disabled, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless, and the person performing the act knows or should reasonably know that the other person is mentally disabled, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless." |
Quote : | "its a classic case of the state "overcharging" a crime so that they can get a plea bargain. he's gonna go to court and the DA is going to be "nice" and "offer" him a "deal" where they can drop one of the charges if he pleads guilty to the other. total bullshit." |
she probably gave him a blowjob beforehand, and they are charging him with the Second-degree sexual offense for that.10/19/2005 4:06:16 PM |
Lil Pig All American 4352 Posts user info edit post |
Well, maybe guys will learn not to have sex with drunk/buzzed/tanked/lit girls at parties. Seriously. Think about some consequences before you loose blood flow to your head.
And you assholes who are flaming this girl for going to the police... Why on earth does the alleged rapist get the "innocent until proven guilty" card. She doesn't get the same respect? 10/19/2005 4:18:54 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why on earth does the alleged rapist get the "innocent until proven guilty" card." |
The US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.10/19/2005 4:20:49 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
he should counter sue for defamation of character 10/19/2005 4:24:59 PM |
Queti All American 13537 Posts user info edit post |
^^i think what lil pig is saying is that people are saying that this guy is innocent until proven guilty but the same people that are saying that are saying she is guilty of falsely accusing him/regretting afterward/etc.
Quote : | "you guys are a bunch of jerks.
innocent until proven guilty doesnt mean blame the woman.
this is probably one of the main reasons women dont come forward when something like this happens.
you should be fucking ashamed.
" |
[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 4:29 PM. Reason : er]10/19/2005 4:29:41 PM |