my point is ever since itunes came out on Mac, I stopped using anything else and windows and only used my Mac to listen to music. The windows release just enhanced all that so i can use it across my network.

page 3 loves apple!

[Edited on October 27, 2005 at 11:20 PM. Reason : i mean hates apple, hate hate hate.]

10/27/2005 11:20:18 PM

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"apple is the shit now they run windows stuff"

ahahahha

for some reason I found this very hilarious.

Like almost deliriously hilarious.

10/28/2005 12:57:02 AM

10/28/2005 5:19:56 AM

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"for some reason I found this very hilarious. Like almost deliriously hilarious."

Well, I'm glad somebody found it funny, because I'm still confused as hell about wtf he is talking about.

10/28/2005 8:25:19 AM

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"No sir. Iriver had a USB device out thats in all forms much better then any shuffle before the shuffle hit stores. You bought a shuffle because its white and you wanted to look hip. I like the ipod, but the shuffled is worthless device. No screen, no forward backward button? No thanks."

the Iriver USB was twice as much as the shuffle. Also, wtf are you talking about with no forward/backward button? It has forward, back, shuffle, non-shuffle, volume up and down, play and pause. When i'm running, lifting, mountain biking, or skiing, why the hell am I going to look at a screen?

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"How about you try transferring songs onto your Ipod without installing itunes and see if it plays them."

It's actually pretty easy. It mounts as a flash drive in windows, and you can drag and drop files onto it.

10/28/2005 8:59:03 AM

I don't hate 'em. I just like playing games on the PC.

10/28/2005 12:47:30 PM

You can drag and drop files but on my friends Ipod you couldn't listen to any of them. It just showed up as generic files. This may have changed for the latest revision but he had to download an OMGHAX program to transfer music to his Ipod.

10/28/2005 12:47:52 PM

Bobby:

Yeah I tried to drag n drop mp3's onto the shuffle through windows and it didn't work.

10/28/2005 7:23:52 PM

>.<

10/28/2005 7:33:05 PM

I know that normal drag and drop doesn't work on the full-size iPods, but I wasn't 100% about Shuffles, so I didn't comment. But I'm pretty sure that dnd won't show the files as playable files.

10/28/2005 8:28:32 PM

why would apple enable simple drag and drop

It's kinda their strategy to get more people to use iTMS

Don't you think?

10/28/2005 8:31:24 PM

iTunes is free and easy to use so why not use it? I've always used it and really like it.

10/28/2005 8:47:31 PM

Why should you have to when virtually every MP3 CD player for the past god knows how many years has been able to say "OH HEY, THIS FOLDER IS NEXT ALPHABETICALLY, LET ME PLAY IT FOR YOU" after having files dropped onto it.

10/28/2005 8:59:49 PM

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"iTunesWMP is free and easy to use and comes with windows, and doesn't crash if you rub it the wrong way so why not use it? I've always used it and really like it. "

10/28/2005 10:43:28 PM

they both suck equally really

10/28/2005 10:45:07 PM

^^the fact that it comes with windows doesn't mean shit. if its free and easy to download it doesn't have to come with anything. I like the way itunes looks, feels and functions. Streaming music across the network is simple too,

10/28/2005 11:04:09 PM

https://www.myirock.com/myirock/shopping/index.jsp?product_id=679437207056&store_id=101&afl_id=-1&dist_id=-1&productID=&quantity=1&funcID=9902&department_current=37&search_product_name=

this is what I'm getting

10/28/2005 11:41:46 PM

the simple fact is this:

if you have a cd player, you're cheap.
if you have an ipod, you're cool.
if you have any other mp3 player, you're cheap, and want to be cool. unless you can justify why your mp3 player is better than an ipod -- then you're just an arrogant technocrat

10/28/2005 11:51:49 PM

Ok look. You can argue the Ipod as a competent MP3 player but Itunes fucking sucks. Its a memory hog, doesn't look too nifty, "rebuffers" all the damn time when streaming music, AND associates itself with every music on your hard drive. Thats the reason I bought an IRiver in the first place: So I don't have the dependancy of iTunes.

10/29/2005 12:18:38 AM

There's a cool 3rd party app that enables drag n drop for the iPod.

Most Windows users I know though love iTunes.

[Edited on October 29, 2005 at 12:22 AM. Reason : 3]

10/29/2005 12:22:23 AM

i dunno what you are doing wrong but iTunes rocks and is the simplest software....not much to it.

and yes it does look good.

10/29/2005 2:09:55 AM

^agreed

10/29/2005 2:13:14 AM

oh and its not even close to being a memory hog. some of us have more than 512mb of ram

10/29/2005 2:16:53 AM

Quote :

"if you have a cd player, you're cheap. if you have an ipod, you're cool. if you have any other mp3 player, you're cheap, and want to be cool. unless you can justify why your mp3 player is better than an ipod -- then you're just an arrogant technocrat "

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

I think I've more than justified why my shit is better than an ipod in every functional area.

10/29/2005 9:51:14 AM

See I knew somebody was going to say something stupid like "well I have more then 512 megs of ram" as if it justifies shitty coding. I like efficiency over fluff, especially when iTunes doesn't match any native Windows environment well anyway.

10/29/2005 12:09:13 PM

iTunes sucks

Even Winamp with video is better than iTunes

10/29/2005 12:36:53 PM

I support esgargs

10/29/2005 1:33:25 PM

Quote :

"the simple fact is this: if you have a cd player, you're cheap. if you have an ipod, you're cool. if you have any other mp3 player, you're cheap, and want to be cool. unless you can justify why your mp3 player is better than an ipod -- then you're just an arrogant technocrat"

umm dude

I have seen you a zillion times in your metrosexual hairdo toting your ipod around like it is the key to Monica Lewinsky's bedroom. And if you are really a techo-connoisseur you know that those white headphones aren't meant for music listening.

10/29/2005 1:55:23 PM

Quote :

"See I knew somebody was going to say something stupid like "well I have more then 512 megs of ram" as if it justifies shitty coding. I like efficiency over fluff, especially when iTunes doesn't match any native Windows environment well anyway."

it matches my windows enviorment just fine actually. and my point is i don't care how much memory it uses, 50mb or less is what it uses on my machine which is nothing. Face it, it looks better than winamp, functions better than winamp, and doesn't fuck up your computer like winamp. Hell i'd rather use WMP than winamp.

10/29/2005 5:52:34 PM

No wonder you work at Geek Squad

10/29/2005 8:01:57 PM

no wonder you're indian.

sweet, i didn't know i worked at geeksquad let me go return all this shit i just bought and get my discount!

[Edited on October 29, 2005 at 8:25 PM. Reason : fda]

10/29/2005 8:23:08 PM

iRocks are cool ok?

10/30/2005 12:52:51 AM

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"doesn't fuck up your computer like winamp"

The fuck kind of Winamp are you installing?

10/30/2005 4:26:47 AM

i like how someone used the fact that WMP is installed on every computer as a reason to use it

like 90% of tech talk doesn't use IE now

OMG FIRE FOX IS THE BROWSER FOR PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW GOOD WMP IS!!!!11

10/30/2005 10:57:19 AM

What the fuck? I only have 256 of RAM and iTunes does not bog a single goddamned thing down. I swear most of you are fucking retarded.

10/30/2005 1:59:17 PM

^ me too.

I ran iTunes for a year or so on 256 MB RAM and never had a problem.

10/30/2005 2:11:17 PM

yeah, i don't understand all the hate either
its never slowed me down (althought photoshop is the most "technical" program i use) or crashed on me...

10/30/2005 2:11:42 PM

omg people buy it

it must suck.

10/30/2005 2:39:53 PM

it does suck. I hate having to watch Lost commerical free in the car while i'm waiting in I40 traffic (ie not moving)

10/30/2005 2:56:03 PM

my only beef is having to use final cut pro on a mac

i'm used to little things like ctrl-c and v and such...it's like using another language

10/30/2005 3:11:43 PM

its just as simple

apple + c
apple +v

(p.s. i don't know what the little apple key is really called so i'll just call it apple.)

10/30/2005 3:12:34 PM

haha, i think it's "open-apple"

but yeah, i know that's how it's done, but the ctrl key is still on the keyboard!

it's like "hey, what about me? i'm helping! i'm helping!"

10/30/2005 3:14:42 PM

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"(p.s. i don't know what the little apple key is really called so i'll just call it apple.)"

The Command key.

(see http://www.apple.com/support/switch101/switcher/2/)

10/30/2005 3:20:56 PM

oooh yeah...

10/30/2005 3:21:30 PM

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"my only beef is having to use final cut pro on a mac i'm used to little things like ctrl-c and v and such...it's like using another language"

I fucking hate that.

10/30/2005 3:23:02 PM

Even though Apple did it first.

(On the MS Editor it used to be Shift-Insert and Ctrl-Insert)

10/30/2005 3:24:32 PM

WMP is still superior.

Because it comes with windows, and I don't have to deal with registering with apple's faggotry (Woodfoot)

and yes, I use IE, because it does everything I need, and does it well.

10/30/2005 8:06:17 PM

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"haha, i think it's "open-apple""

Waaaaaaaaaay back in the day, there used to be two Apple keys on their keyboard: an Open-Apple on the left side and a Closed-Apple on the right side.
Now it's generally known as the Command key, and the Apple logo on it is pretty much just a throwback. They're both Open-Apples now as both Command keys have the same effect.

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"i'm used to little things like ctrl-c and v and such...it's like using another language"

Apple invented that language. Microsoft did their best to copy it.

But I get a little tripped up every now and then when I work on Windows all day, go home to my Mac and use my pinky instead of my thumb and end up hitting Control, and then work on Unix the next day and end up hitting Caps Lock every time I want to use Control....
Whatever ---- it's not that big of an issue. Except when I use Windows and accidentally hit the fucking Windows button that pops up the start menu. Fuck I hate that. Completely takes the focus off of what I was doing and trips the workflow. The damn Alt key highlighting the menu bar is almost as annoying and distracting.

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" Its a memory hog, doesn't look too nifty, "rebuffers" all the damn time when streaming music, AND associates itself with every music on your hard drive"

My iTunes has been running for about 3 days and is taking up a whopping 23.1MB of RAM.

Looks fine to me. Clean, logical, and without much fluff.

My radio usually runs fine without rebuffering. Did you change the setting for buffer size in the Preferences?

I have plenty of audio files on my hard drive that are not associated with iTunes.

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"Because it comes with windows, and I don't have to deal with registering with apple's faggotry (Woodfoot)"

Registering??

[Edited on October 30, 2005 at 8:19 PM. Reason : ]

10/30/2005 8:17:49 PM

thats what you get when you "next next next finish" on install.

i always check what sound files should be assiociated with what programs on install.

^yeah whats with the registring? only thing you have to register is when you purchase songs and thats because they need a credit card to pay for it unless he's talking about downloading itunes where they ask for an email and even that is optional. so long as you uncheck the mailing list stuff you don't need an email address to download it.

[Edited on October 30, 2005 at 8:20 PM. Reason : fda]

10/30/2005 8:19:44 PM

Honestly I don't care who uses iTunes. I've used everything under the sun and determined that windows media player classic and mplayer are the best choices for me.


I'm done with this thread. Peace.

10/30/2005 8:49:26 PM