WMVlad007 All American 1212 Posts user info edit post |
well that friend of mine is an RA, and he talked shit about that other RA that wrote people up, so the U Housing pressed on him and he might lose his job because of his perspective on the situation. how gay 11/4/2005 6:22:02 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
oh, okay... that is lame, but it makes more sense if he's an RA 11/4/2005 6:23:16 PM |
brianj320 All American 9166 Posts user info edit post |
god forbid someone have a fuckin opinion about a serious matter that affects everyone, RA or not.
[Edited on November 4, 2005 at 6:24 PM. Reason : .] 11/4/2005 6:23:58 PM |
WMVlad007 All American 1212 Posts user info edit post |
pretty much this is how it is and they made it clear at the meeting: you either go by their rules or not, and if you dont, screw you, we're not bending shit for a few students from alexander. 11/4/2005 6:30:52 PM |
rjrgrl All American 27061 Posts user info edit post |
that they "should be crucified" =/= "im going to crucify"
i mean i had problems with paul cousins and the way he handles students before
but there is such a thing as FREEDOM OF SPEECH
fucking idiot 11/4/2005 6:32:40 PM |
WMVlad007 All American 1212 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not trying to be pro paul cousins, but he does go through a lot of students every semester, and as in my own case, he could have taken it easier. but it always could be worse. i was kicked off campus, but not expelled/suspended so they guy's just doing his job. the only good thing, is that this matter has been elevated to a point where it grabbed media's attention and is not just a little fire "brewing" in the NCSU's judicial system. perhaps if it gets big enough, state will create a rule on using pictures as evidence and i can garantee you right now that it will not favor us, students but still, as of right now, those charges against the students in alexander should be dropped just because it's a new thing and for chris's sake, the RA is a dooche, talking about that, at the meeting they brought up that she hasn't been seen for a week, does anyone know what happened to her or her whereabouts.? 11/4/2005 6:36:59 PM |
rjrgrl All American 27061 Posts user info edit post |
everything ive ever heard about him indicates that hes an asshole on a power trip - i know of several people who were victims in the events that took them to his office, and he basically went out of his way to tell them they were shitty people and make them feel like they had somehow caused what had happened to them 11/4/2005 6:39:33 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "does anyone know what happened to her or her whereabouts.?" |
ashes are hard to find11/4/2005 6:40:27 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he basically went out of his way to tell them they were shitty people and make them feel like they had somehow caused what had happened to them" |
were they shitty people?
i mean honestly, the most offensive thing a person can hear about themselves is usually the truth.11/4/2005 6:42:54 PM |
WMVlad007 All American 1212 Posts user info edit post |
they got written up for a beer IN THE BACKGROUND, on a DIGITAL PICTURE, on the WORLD WIDE WEB. give them a break 11/4/2005 6:48:31 PM |
rjrgrl All American 27061 Posts user info edit post |
no, they werent
i dont believe telling an 18 year old girl, whos having issues with an abusive ex bf, that she is a damaged person and then trying to psychoanalyze her relationship with her mother - when their relationship is very strong 11/4/2005 7:31:21 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
New pastimes:
1. Photoshopping beers into the hands of freshmen at parties. 2. Setting up fake parties on the Facebook to fuck with the ALE.
[Edited on November 4, 2005 at 8:01 PM. Reason : add your own] 11/4/2005 8:00:32 PM |
runner32 Veteran 207 Posts user info edit post |
Boy, Gamecat, that's really grownup behavior. 11/4/2005 9:40:04 PM |
ultramrw21 New Recruit 3 Posts user info edit post |
I have no idea who this guy is, but yeah, fuck him. 11/4/2005 9:41:54 PM |
ultramrw21 New Recruit 3 Posts user info edit post |
fuck gamecat too, if anyones gonna put a beer in my hand, its gonna be me. 11/4/2005 9:44:26 PM |
cyrion All American 27139 Posts user info edit post |
omgz gamecat is the devil. add to that he has over 10k posts....WHAT A FAGGOT 11/4/2005 9:45:24 PM |
Sorcerer All American 8646 Posts user info edit post |
This is why you shouldnt pick on the nerds and geeks in Highschool..they always grow up bitter and craving power-trips 11/4/2005 10:13:38 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have no idea who this guy is, but yeah, fuck him." |
Congratulations, you're a follower! Welcome to the herd, you spineless jerk. How about you post when you can make your own judgements, ok?11/4/2005 10:28:44 PM |
brianj320 All American 9166 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "2. Setting up fake parties on the Facebook to fuck with the ALE." |
haha that is kinda funny11/4/2005 10:29:59 PM |
spookyjon All American 21682 Posts user info edit post |
Man, when that RA really does get burned at the stake I bet your guys faces will be red! 11/4/2005 10:37:00 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
What I want to know is why in the fuck my goddamned tax dollars are being spent to pay some lardass fucking Public Safety Officer to look at the motherfucking WolfWeb.
You get a threat on TWW, fine. Investigate it. But don't pay some sack of shit to sit on here and read it 24/7. God knows if somebody IMPORTANT in the Government found out you were wasting fucking labor (and thusly tax dollars) like that, the whole goddamned Department would get canned.
[Edited on November 4, 2005 at 11:18 PM. Reason : .] 11/4/2005 11:16:40 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ Haha, since when did the gov. ever care about people wasting money? 11/4/2005 11:37:31 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
nevermind that i was pointing out reasons that nobody has anything to worry about as far as administration looking at what you do/say/post on the intarn3ts
fucking tards
[Edited on November 5, 2005 at 12:19 AM. Reason : (unless you actually understood the first time)] 11/5/2005 12:19:42 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "1. Photoshopping beers into the hands of freshmen at parties. 2. Setting up fake parties on the Facebook to fuck with the ALE." |
#2 is money. #1 needs to only be done to freshmen with influential parents. screwing some random joe won't help anything. causing a shitstorm for the daughter of the chief of police or the son of a state representative will.11/5/2005 12:26:36 AM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
You're not thinking far enough ahead.
A photochopped picture that looks good enough to fool an RA into turning somebody in would be cause enough for the university not to consider digital photos taken from the internet sufficient evidence to prove the crime. 11/5/2005 12:32:01 AM |
rogueleader All American 12297 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "MAKE SURE YOU ARE NEVER PHOTOGRAPHED JAYWALKING OR ELSE YOU GET A PINEAPPLE UP YOUR ASS! MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE THAT EVEN LOOKS LIKE YOU IS EVER CAUGHT ON FILM LITTERING! SHOULD YOU EVER DRINK A ROOT BEER DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK!" |
once again the retards miss the mark. sorry dude, the gov't didn't put some cameras into dorm rooms to catch people drinking. nobody put spy gear on teh intarweb to catch the threats. Idiots released their own incriminating evidence into public domain. yeah, they did it and they can't suck it up and take it like adults so they gotta complain that the man's got them down and trying to frame them up...fuckin clown shoes.
glad to see Axl's got some sense about this...doesn't surprise me...he doesn't make excuses...11/5/2005 12:35:05 AM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Man, when that RA really does get burned at the stake I bet your guys faces will be red!" |
Not as red as hers 11/5/2005 12:35:05 AM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
I kinda figured it went without saying that it was pretty stupid to post incriminating pictures of yourself on the internet. 11/5/2005 12:41:37 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "once again the retards miss the mark. sorry dude, the gov't didn't put some cameras into dorm rooms to catch people drinking. nobody put spy gear on teh intarweb to catch the threats. Idiots released their own incriminating evidence into public domain. yeah, they did it and they can't suck it up and take it like adults so they gotta complain that the man's got them down and trying to frame them up...fuckin clown shoes.
glad to see Axl's got some sense about this...doesn't surprise me...he doesn't make excuses..." |
and there were no people in the backgrounds of those pics. there were no beer cans (that may or may not have had beer in them) in the hands of bystanders, who more thank likely have been outed by the scared fuck that has been pressured in a meeting with mr. cousins. "WHO IS THAT PERSON? IF YOU TELL US, WE'LL GO EASY. WHO'S PARTY WAS THAT? WHERE WAS IT LOCATED?"
yeah, this is all fucking brilliant, just like you.11/5/2005 8:55:42 AM |
dyson All American 563 Posts user info edit post |
what i don't understand is that the issue has switched from pictures on the internet being used as evidence, which i think is completely legitimate assuming the acts in the picture can be verified, from the real issue.... people that are underage drinking... i mean... seriously, if you're going to do something illegal, make sure you're ready to face the consequences. if you don't want trouble, don't do something stupid... or at the very least, be smart and not post pictures on the freakin internet. 11/5/2005 5:13:14 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
my point is it's not always YOU that posts the pic and that any number of things could be in the cans/cups.
if campus police/rpd/ale enter the party they can verify what's going on.
the photo can't do that. 11/5/2005 5:27:22 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
WWPCD? 11/5/2005 5:43:11 PM |
dyson All American 563 Posts user info edit post |
^^ why does it have to be rpd/ale/or campus police... people in the picture can't verify what it's in the cup? And if you're holding a budweiser can... although it's circumstantial, i think it's pretty safe to say there's beer in the can, or that there was beer in the can. and again, if you don't want pictures of you being posted up on the internet with you drinking underage... either don't drink underage, or don't let people take pictures of drinking when you're underage... pretty simple. 11/6/2005 1:50:39 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
can you prove it?
what if the person says, water was in my cup, or can. they have no way of proving anything. which is why it's all bullshit. 11/6/2005 3:10:37 PM |
dyson All American 563 Posts user info edit post |
which would be fine if this was wake county district court, but it's not... read the code of student conduct and understand that the university doesn't use the same standard of proof as our criminal justice system. 11/6/2005 4:32:49 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Quote : "1. Photoshopping beers into the hands of freshmen at parties. 2. Setting up fake parties on the Facebook to fuck with the ALE."
theDuke866 #2 is money. #1 needs to only be done to freshmen with influential parents. screwing some random joe won't help anything. causing a shitstorm for the daughter of the chief of police or the son of a state representative will." |
sayyyyyyy, doesnt Chacellor Oblinger's son go here? how old is he? 11/6/2005 4:36:54 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Photoshop nuclear warheads, pot, strippers, Paul Cousins and everything else into your dorm room (With Beer!)...and RA's! 11/6/2005 5:00:10 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ well then let the lawsuits begin
because it's fucking horseshit 11/6/2005 5:18:59 PM |
Donogh5 All American 971 Posts user info edit post |
I don't see how photos could prove beyond reasonable doubt that they were violating university policy. Conviction on suspicion is weak, not to mention unfair. 11/6/2005 5:25:08 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
who needs reasonable doubt? 11/6/2005 5:27:12 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Paul Cousins made me pay to have my computer reformatted at Best Buy, when I could have easily done it myself and saved $60. I do not like that man whatsoever. He was a prick to me for no reason. 11/7/2005 12:11:15 AM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
how the hell did he make you do that? 11/7/2005 12:17:35 AM |
bous All American 11215 Posts user info edit post |
paul cousins made me remove a rib to suck my own dick because he wouldn't do it. 11/7/2005 12:19:28 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
^^he said either i show him a receipt or not be able to have a unity account anymore 11/7/2005 5:15:22 AM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
why would he make you reformat your computer? 11/7/2005 6:58:27 AM |
dyson All American 563 Posts user info edit post |
it seems that most of the students here seem to believe that since this is a public university, it must abide by the standards used in our criminal justice system... but that's not the case. hell, even our "right" to free speech can be limited if it interferes with the university's ability to fulfill their educational mission. so while it may seem unfair that the administration doesn't have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that some kids were drinking beer in pictures, that's the way it is. if you want to change this, then you have to go up to the trustees, i believe. i think unc-ch uses the beyond a reasonable doubt standard of proof, but hey... some schools in the unc system use the civil standard of proof which is basically more than half... so at least our rights are being protected to an extent. 11/7/2005 9:59:02 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
probably had illegal music or something 11/7/2005 10:02:18 AM |
peakseeker All American 2900 Posts user info edit post |
11/7/2005 10:13:38 AM |
teh_toch All American 5342 Posts user info edit post |
Paul Cousins had me kicked out of school when I downloaded one itty bitty mp3 on resnet. 11/7/2005 10:34:22 AM |
abcdefg13 Veteran 279 Posts user info edit post |
11/7/2005 3:26:59 PM |