Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
you almost had me until "no blood for oil" i haven't got a clue what that has to do with your rant
btw i really like how you ignored the negatives of America, and focused on the negatives of the middle east
really lends credence to your position 11/26/2005 11:38:31 PM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
i was just trying to make you feel more at home - like you were at one of your little teenage rallies
"NO BLOOD FOR OIL"
"BUSH LIED PEOPLE DIED"
"HEY HEY HO HO WE ARE STUPID TWEENS AND WE'D LIKE TO FIGHT FOR A REAL SOCIAL CAUSE BUT WE CAN'T BECAUSE ALL THE MAJOR ONES HAVE BEEN FOUGHT AND LARGELY WON SO HERE WE ARE SCREAMING ABOUT STUPID BULLSHIT BECAUSE OUR HORMONES ARE RAGING"
[Edited on November 26, 2005 at 11:43 PM. Reason : s] 11/26/2005 11:42:04 PM |
MathFreak All American 14478 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "difference is - our culture is superior, which is why we're kicking their asses all over the middle east" |
The first part is true. The "implication" though is just stupid.11/26/2005 11:42:10 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
awwww it looks like i'm on the receiving end of a trademark excoriator troll session
LOOK AT ME EVERYBODY I'M A FLAMING LIBERAL BECAUSE I DON'T HATE THE MIDDLE EAST AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE IT BURN 11/27/2005 12:04:36 AM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
i don't particularly hate the middle east and i don't want to see it burn
but it doesn't take much thought to acknowledge that their culture is pretty fucked up in far more ways than ours.
really the funny thing is that if our gov. started doing even a tenth of what those societies do (strip away inheritance rights from women, chop off criminals hands, etc.) you liberals would have a fucking cow.
and by "have a cow" i mean, you would squat down and birth a holstein.
[Edited on November 27, 2005 at 12:10 AM. Reason : s] 11/27/2005 12:06:24 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
you're right, the left probably would i like how you criticize the left for that...
but you know, i'm sure there are a shit ton of things we do in 2005 that would make john quincy adams "birth a holstein" or whatever 11/27/2005 12:16:29 AM |
Boss DJ All American 1558 Posts user info edit post |
id imagine that the conservatives would have a thing or two to say about it as well 11/27/2005 12:42:58 AM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
and that's why our culture kicks so much ass, because EVERYONE would be up in arms about that shit whereas huge portions of the middle east's populations support those policies 11/27/2005 12:45:17 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
actually, thats why our cultures are different
they'd be just as up in arms by secular humanism, divorce, homosexuality, and overt rampant sexuality - including children that aren't even teenagers
all things that are celebrated in our modern culture] 11/27/2005 1:00:03 AM |
Boss DJ All American 1558 Posts user info edit post |
sure, but those things are not punishable by imprisonment or death here 11/27/2005 1:05:03 AM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
yea...well...maybe they should be
it'd be a whole lot better if we got over this whole "killing is wrong" hangup 11/27/2005 1:06:08 AM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they'd be just as up in arms by secular humanism, divorce, homosexuality, and overt rampant sexuality - including children that aren't even teenagers" |
no shit.
next up, woodfoot defends nazi culture. hey how about a lesson on appreciating the KKK's white-only perspective11/27/2005 1:32:14 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
hey, way to make the nazi comparison
clearly you are a master debater, against whom i stand no chance
its been fun, i hope for everyone 11/27/2005 2:11:04 AM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
its valid for me to bring them up. you're sitting here advocating absolute moral relativism
so i'm calling you on it.
its too bad to have to bring up the nazis... but the occasional misguided argument for moral relativism always demands it.
[Edited on November 27, 2005 at 3:07 AM. Reason : s] 11/27/2005 3:04:47 AM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, whatever justifies it for you
thats fine
but please realize you are referencing cultural subsets
just like not every muslim is a terrorist, not every german was a nazi, and not every white person is a member of the kkk
but please, by all means
figure out another way to beat me
hey i know, slippery slope's allllllways a fun one 11/27/2005 11:21:18 AM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
oh kind of like not every member of our culture wants to screw before the age of fourteen, blow up the middle east, or whatever else your liberal mind constructs as negatives about your own fucking society.
but this is all tangential to the real issue which is your adolescent need to rebel
so go ahead and get the activism out of your system. i agree that it sucks that the social battles have already been fought and won here so you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to having a cause.
[Edited on November 27, 2005 at 12:03 PM. Reason : s] 11/27/2005 12:03:44 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it looks like i'm on the receiving end of a trademark excoriator troll session" |
11/27/2005 12:07:01 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
Our culture is quite superior. We stopped oppressing blacks almost 50 years ago.
Hoorah for the moral high ground! 11/27/2005 1:36:13 PM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62450 Posts user info edit post |
] 11/27/2005 4:51:08 PM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "When a used car salesman lies me into buying a lemon, I have legal recourse." |
Alright. Lets set it all straight right here, right now. IF ANY OF YOU CAN PROVE THAT BUSH LIED TO LEAD AMERICA TO WAR IN IRAQ, THEN PRESENT THE EVIDENCE. IF NOT, STOP ACCUSING. Kerry and the other dems are accusing and they have no concrete evidence of this happening. They are saying this because they are trying to cover up the fact that they all agreed to go to war and the liberal media has joined in on it.11/27/2005 9:50:56 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Key Bush Intelligence Briefing Kept From Hill Panel by Murray Waas, special to National Journal Tuesday, Nov. 22, 2005 at 4:14 PM
The Senate Intelligence Committee has asked the White House for the CIA assessment, the PDB of September 21, 2001, and dozens of other PDBs as part of the committee's ongoing investigation into whether the Bush administration misrepresented intelligence information in the run-up to war with Iraq. The Bush administration has refused to turn over these documents.
Ten days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush was told in a highly classified briefing that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein to the attacks and that there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda, according to government records and current and former officials with firsthand knowledge of the matter.
The information was provided to Bush on September 21, 2001 during the "President's Daily Brief," a 30- to 45-minute early-morning national security briefing. Information for PDBs has routinely been derived from electronic intercepts, human agents, and reports from foreign intelligence services, as well as more mundane sources such as news reports and public statements by foreign leaders. " |
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2005/11/1722364.php
Quote : | ""The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al-Qaeda is because there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda." - George W. Bush, June 2004
"There's overwhelming evidence... of a connection between al-Qaeda and Iraq". - Dick Cheney, January 2004
"I have not seen smoking gun, concrete evidence about the connection, but I do believe the connections existed." - Colin Powell, January 2004
"Within a week, or a month, Saddam could give his WMD to al-Qaeda." - Donald Rumsfeld, November 2002
"You can't distinguish between Al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror," President Bush September 25, 2002.
" |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3816963.stm
Bush could clear himself by releasing the September 21, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing to the Senate Intelligence Committee.
[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 1:36 PM. Reason : sklsjd]11/28/2005 1:33:07 PM |
GGMon All American 6462 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " "HEY HEY HO HO WE ARE STUPID TWEENS AND WE'D LIKE TO FIGHT FOR A REAL SOCIAL CAUSE BUT WE CAN'T BECAUSE ALL THE MAJOR ONES HAVE BEEN FOUGHT AND LARGELY WON SO HERE WE ARE SCREAMING ABOUT STUPID BULLSHIT BECAUSE OUR HORMONES ARE RAGING"" |
Quote of the year!11/28/2005 4:08:27 PM |