2/6/2006 8:41:47 PM

2/6/2006 8:43:01 PM

http://pics.livejournal.com/weev/gallery/000038dy

2/6/2006 8:46:07 PM

2/6/2006 8:57:05 PM

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"theyve documented that these are ORGANIZATIONS who organize this. they wear the paraphenalia and everything. "

That sounds a lot like the Duke student section. They pass out "cheer sheets" and everything.

2/6/2006 9:22:48 PM

how many muslim groups kicked up a fit when the taliban decided to blow up those buddha statues

(and i'm seriously asking)

2/6/2006 9:33:35 PM

^^i missed the time when the duke student section carried swatstika banners and all gave fascist salutes in unison.

oh wait, youre trolling, like 90% of this board

[Edited on February 6, 2006 at 9:36 PM. Reason : .]

2/6/2006 9:36:00 PM

Swatstika banners and fascist salutes in unison? Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit hyperbole. You made this statement, now show me a link to back it up.

A couple of stupid Italian hooligans waved swatstikas at a football game and now its at the forefront of a rise in fascism in Europe

You're full of shit. I'm not trolling.

2/6/2006 9:52:06 PM

Fascism is totally on the rise in Europe. I am especially aware of this being that my fiancée is from Spain.
Hell, its strange with when you call your mother-in-law a Fascist and it's actually true.

2/6/2006 9:59:34 PM

^^get off my ass, youre still wrong. each reply shows you arent even reading my posts anyway.

^see?

i dont really give a fuck if you believe it or not. there was a special on Bryant Gumbel's HBO show on this a few months ago. they sent cameras into meetings and into their sections at games. also, my cousin is currently studying over there, and he'll vouch for it.

besides, the soccer example is just that; one example. its totally logical that facism would be on the rise. some Nationalist groups are responding to European unity and increasing immigration with ultra-nationalism.



[Edited on February 6, 2006 at 10:50 PM. Reason : .]

2/6/2006 10:43:03 PM

so, who can draw the best holocaust cartoon??

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/02/07/iran.cartoon.ap/index.html

2/7/2006 10:00:47 AM

^So vindicating the cartoons through violent acts wasn't enough. They had to go and be hypocritical about it.

Love the picture from the site BTW:
: I NEED AN EXCUSE TO THROW A ROCK THIS WEEK!

2/7/2006 10:11:52 AM

they're not being hypocritical



[Edited on February 7, 2006 at 10:26 AM. Reason : .]

2/7/2006 10:26:04 AM

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"The West's publication of the Prophet Muhammad cartoons was an Israeli conspiracy motivated by anger over Hamas' win in the Palestinian elections, Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, said Tuesday."

ha ha. I guess they have no idea the cartoons were published back in September! Or was Hamas winning the elections ALSO a conspiracy?

2/7/2006 10:44:57 AM

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"Or was Hamas winning the elections ALSO a conspiracy?"

some will argue it is.

2/7/2006 11:22:01 AM

2/7/2006 4:31:47 PM

2/7/2006 5:29:37 PM

i find this so offensive, that I'm going on a hunger strike

2/7/2006 6:32:21 PM

Ahsahahahahah I remember when that pissed people off.

That show kicked ass.

A woman on NPR today, with the Progressive Muslim something or other, said that while the cartoons are unacceptable to muslims, fucking burning down buildings is more unacceptible. She also mentioned the fact that newspapers in countries like Egypt run anti-semitic comics constantly.

[Edited on February 7, 2006 at 6:59 PM. Reason : ]

2/7/2006 6:56:25 PM

SOMETHING IS ROTTEN IN THE STATE OF DENMARK

/cliche

2/7/2006 7:07:11 PM

It's a relatively small group of people throwing rocks and generally being camel-fucking dumbasses, often incited and organized by fanatics just like protests here are. The average Arab on the street, while offended, isn't chanting death to Europe/America/etc. If they choose to boycott Danish goods, that's perfectly acceptable, though an overreaction.

oh, and hahahaahha:

2/7/2006 9:18:46 PM

Iran to rename Danish pastries to "Mohammedan" pastry


http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Trends&loid=8.0.261677120&par=0

how original

2/7/2006 9:37:57 PM

hahahahaha

THEY'RE RUNNING A PAGE FROM OUR PLAYBOOK

2/7/2006 10:50:42 PM

^^ sounds like Freedom fries to me

2/7/2006 11:00:50 PM

^ that's what ^^ said about ^^^, dumbass

2/7/2006 11:22:48 PM

hell
he said it himself in the original post when he said

"how original rolly eyes"

2/7/2006 11:41:04 PM

thats what ^ said about ^^^^^ when ^^ called ^^^ a dumbass even though ^^^^ already noted what ^^^^^ was about before ^^^ even got a clue.

just sayin.

2/8/2006 12:56:00 AM

because comparing The Prophet (pbuh) to a Donut is less blasphemous than drawing a picture of Him in the paper.

ha salam al alekim.

2/8/2006 12:59:32 AM

lmao watch the colbert report about this - it was funny lol

2/8/2006 1:36:46 AM

because no other religion has its figures made fun of.

2/8/2006 1:42:15 AM

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"because comparing attaching the name of The Prophet (pbuh) to a Donut is less blasphemous than drawing a picture of Him in the paper."

Yeah, really.

2/8/2006 7:42:31 AM

Headlines from this morning:

Deadly cartoon riot near U.S. base
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/02/08/cartoon.protests/index.html

Four die in Afghan cartoon riot
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4692172.stm

It just seems surreal.

[Edited on February 8, 2006 at 9:00 AM. Reason : wow]

2/8/2006 8:59:13 AM

Yeah, these are definitely the sort of things that don't happen here, even on a semi irregular basis...

2/8/2006 9:39:28 AM

I'm waiting for the first suicide bomb to go off in Denmark. Not that I'm wishing it upon them by any means, but the way things are spinning out of control now, I'm afraid that's how it's going to end...

2/8/2006 1:58:52 PM

While I think some the more authoritarian regimes in the region are helping to coordinate the riots, it is stilll bizarre to see people geting bent out of shape over this. Truth is stranger than fiction.

2/8/2006 2:11:31 PM

the less affluent a population is, the more it gets bent out of shape about stuff

2/8/2006 2:17:45 PM

I'm suppose to be going to Copenhagen in 3 weeks...I'm a little worried now.

2/8/2006 3:00:32 PM

How dare those fuckers doubt my vacation!

2/8/2006 3:01:20 PM

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"I'm waiting for the first suicide bomb to go off in Denmark. "

its not going to happen


^ you'll be fine

2/8/2006 3:14:18 PM

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"I'm waiting for the first suicide bomb to go off in Denmark. Not that I'm wishing it upon them by any means, but the way things are spinning out of control now, I'm afraid that's how it's going to end... start"

2/8/2006 4:31:14 PM

nightline just blurred all of the cartoons when showing footage of people looking at the paper

2/8/2006 11:38:21 PM

The Daily Show - Mohammad Mo' Problems, Looney Toons, Cartoon Controversy

The Colbert Report - Kidding

2/8/2006 11:44:36 PM

The really hillarious -- and by that, I mean horribly depressing -- thing about this is, the only responsses I've seen anyone offer involve outright surrender or unspeakable violence.

It's time like this where I have to wonder if there is any hope for humanity and if we shouldn't just shoot everybody who looks at us funny.

2/9/2006 3:04:57 AM

^ Here you go... amazingly, it basically says a lot of the things I have been saying! And no, I didn't cheat from there, I just came upon it now.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=12243

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"Europe's Juvenile Idiots Start Religious War by Patrick J. Buchanan Posted Feb 07, 2006 That demagogues and agitators are exploiting those cartoons of Mohammed to advance a war of civilizations and expel Europeans from the Middle East seems undeniable. But that does not excuse the paralyzing stupidity of that Danish paper in running those cartoons -- or the arrogant irresponsibility of European newspapers in plastering those cartoons all over their front pages. The storm first broke last September, when Jyllands-Posten published 12 caricatures of Mohammed, including a lampoon of the Prophet with a terrorist bomb as a turban. In the Islamic faith, any depiction of the face of Mohammed is forbidden. The Danish paper knew this. It published the cartoons to protest "the rejection of modern, secular society" by Muslims. The cartoons were thus a defiant provocation. And they succeeded. The Middle East responded with a boycott of Danish foods and goods. But when, in the name of press solidarity, Le Soir and Le Monde in Paris, El Pais in Madrid and Die Welt in Berlin republished the cartoons on page one, Islam exploded. For this was an in-your-face declaration by the secularist media of the European Union that it will exercise its right to insult any God, any Prophet, any faith, whenever it so chooses. "Enough lessons from these reactionary bigots," said Serge Faubert, editor of Le Soir. "Just because the Quran bans images of Mohammed doesn't mean non-Muslims have to submit to this." Faubert, however, is not a Danish soldier in the Shi'ite sector of Iraq. Innocents will pay the price of his heroism. The U.S. State Department seemed to empathize with Muslim rage, stating that "inciting religious or ethnic hatred in this manner is unacceptable." But, within hours, State had retreated to neutral ground: "While we share the offense that Muslims have taken at these images, we at the same time vigorously defend the right of individuals to express points of view." As of today the Danish consulate in Beirut has been burned, Danish embassies have been stormed, and Danes are fleeing the Middle East. Europeans are getting out of the West Bank, Gaza and Beirut, where mobs are attacking embassies and Christian churches. Islamic countries have recalled ambassadors from Copenhagen. People have been injured and property destroyed in mob assaults as far away as Indonesia. Relations between the West and the Islamic world have been dealt another rupturing blow. And for what? What was the purpose of this juvenile idiocy by the Europress? Is this what freedom of the press is all about -- the freedom to insult the faith of a billion people and start a religious war? Can Europeans be that ignorant of the power of the press to inflame when Bismarck's editing of just a few words in the Ems telegram ignited the Franco-Prussian war? Did Europeans learn nothing from the Salman Rushdie episode? Or the firestorm that gripped the Islamic world when Christian ministers in the United States called Mohammed a "terrorist"? European governments are wringing their hands over the rage and violence unleashed, but they seem paralyzed. What is the matter? Why cannot they denounce press irresponsibility while defending press freedom? Even friends of the West like Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan, President Hosni Mubarak in Egypt and Tayyip Erdogan in Turkey have denounced these cartoons as insults to Islamic values and deeply damaging to Western interests. British Foreign Minister Jack Straw deplored republication of the cartoons as "insensitive ... disrespectful ... wrong." But German Interior Minister Wolfgang Shauble haughtily dissented, "Here, in Europe, governments have nothing to say about which publisher publishes what." What hypocrisy. When it comes to what Germans are most sensitive about, Hitler and the Holocaust, they are ruthless censors. British historian David Irving has spent three months in a Viennese prison awaiting trial on Feb. 20 for speeches he made 15 years ago in Austria. Skeptics and deniers of the Holocaust are prosecuted, fined and imprisoned in Europe with the enthusiastic endorsement of the European press. Nor are we all that different. Sen. Trent Lott was ousted as majority leader for a birthday-party compliment to 100-year-old Strom Thurmond. Atlanta Braves pitcher John Rocker was almost lynched for saying he considers New York a social pigsty. There were demands that Rocker undergo psychiatric counseling. We have "speech codes" in colleges and "hate crimes" laws to protect minorities from abusive remarks. But newspapers that hail these codes throw a blanket of "artistic freedom" over scatological art that degrades religious symbols -- from putting a figure of Christ in a jar of urine to a "painting" of the Virgin Mary surrounded by female genitalia and elephant dung that hung in a Brooklyn museum. What has happened in Europe is that the secular press, which loves to mock the beliefs and symbols of religious faith, has now insulted a deadly serious religion that answers insults with action. "

2/9/2006 5:07:47 AM

so whats interesting to find out is that there are an extra 3 cartoons circulating in the middle east that are not being printed

the three extras are exceptionally "offensive" and make me wonder who provided them

I KNOW WHO WOULD LOOOOVE TO TELL US WHERE THE THREE EXTRA CARTOONS CAME FROM

2/9/2006 11:03:05 AM

there's one of mohammed with the body of a pig.

which would be exceedingly disturbing. the wall street journal reported tuesday that that photo was being shown in "dossiers" all over the mid east along with several others that had never been printed and presented as what was printed in europe.

2/9/2006 11:08:11 AM

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"thing about this is, the only responsses I've seen anyone offer involve outright surrender or unspeakable violence."

Well, assuming we can escape the first month or two without a suicide bomber blowing up the newspaper in Denmark, then my hope will be that Europe will actually be more sensitive to the needs of both its Muslim minority in Europe as well as those in the Middle East. As someone mentioned before, kinda like how they currently handle the Nazis and the Holocaust or how the Americans handle anti-semitism, African Americans and other minorities in general. Hopefully this will lead to some sort of reconciliation and acceptance there.

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"its not going to happen"

I disagree. Between this and their participation in the Iraq Coalition, they are quickly becoming a top target for about every violent, radical Islamic group that operates in Europe. If another attack occurs in Europe, my bet is that it's going to be in Denmark.

2/9/2006 11:26:24 AM

2/9/2006 12:37:48 PM

I'LL GET THAT WASCAWWY WABBIT!!!

2/9/2006 1:22:55 PM

This shit is probably going to end up being used to justify additional "hate-speech" laws. That's bad.

Note, though, that the majority of the protesters in various Muslim are reasonably peaceful.

2/9/2006 1:27:51 PM