TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ it still has the same meaning as what i said.
^wrong. " |
you're just as wrong as me dumbass4/3/2006 3:23:43 PM |
john kruk All American 5325 Posts user info edit post |
i love this thread 4/3/2006 3:38:26 PM |
ApostleNC All American 3862 Posts user info edit post |
I think that Mark Few should be the one contacted to be our new coach. 4/3/2006 3:41:14 PM |
john kruk All American 5325 Posts user info edit post |
why, so we can make it to the sweet 16 but no further?
hey wait, why did you people push Herb out the door again?
oh yeah, because he didn't hang any banners 4/3/2006 3:45:17 PM |
pbomb All American 660 Posts user info edit post |
About Barnes....
Quote : | "He'd have to REALLY REALLY want to coach in the ACC and have another shot at UNC on a consistent basis. I just don't see it happening." |
im pretty sure he does REALLY REALLY want to coach in the ACC and in particular NC State. I mean the guy apparently has a clause in his contract that says NC State and UNC would not have to buy out his contract if he was ever offered a job here or there.4/3/2006 3:51:23 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
it seems like there would be a REASON for having a clause like that in his contract...
so he's got to be at least SOMEWHAT interested... 4/3/2006 3:53:38 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
is there any proof to that clause
i've heard a lot of people throw it around lately
but i'd like to see how the fuck you people know what's in rick barnes contract
edit: i didn't realize you said UNC
that's bullshit
you lose all credibility
[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 3:56 PM. Reason : ] 4/3/2006 3:55:08 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "im pretty sure he does REALLY REALLY want to coach in the ACC and in particular NC State. I mean the guy apparently has a clause in his contract that says NC State and UNC would not have to buy out his contract if he was ever offered a job here or there. " |
BLAH BLAH MOTHERFUCKING BLAH
you have NO idea what you're talking about4/3/2006 3:55:16 PM |
kbncsufan All American 1504 Posts user info edit post |
would anyone want John Brady?? he is a little upset with his salary and wants a new deal at LSU
if he isn't satisfied he might would go elsewhere
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2395119 4/3/2006 3:58:24 PM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you're just as wrong as me dumbass" |
i realize that, but i was never 100% sure about it anyway. when you say:
Quote : | "the correct quote, since nobody but me seems to remember it, was" |
you better know the quote. but as usual, you just spit out whatever comes to your head...only to be proven wrong later.4/3/2006 4:05:41 PM |
jay8895 Veteran 174 Posts user info edit post |
Barnes would be a perfect fit 4/3/2006 4:18:37 PM |
pbomb All American 660 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "BLAH BLAH MOTHERFUCKING BLAH
you have NO idea what you're talking about" |
maybe so...thats why I said apparently and I think, I don't pretend to know exactly what I am talking about unless I do, unlike some of you who are so adament about being wrong.
^^ see above
and its not like any one of us knows for sure so stop being an ass when someone else throws in some speculation
[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 4:52 PM. Reason : .]4/3/2006 4:50:14 PM |
mbutler74 All American 1002 Posts user info edit post |
POINT: Barnes would never say he wants to stay at or leave Texas until he has heard all offers. It's just smart negotiation.
POINT: Texas is not a better program than NC State. They have money, but State has higher attendance figures, better fan support, better facilities, better tradition, better conference etc. Remember Rick Barnes IS Texas. Texas is nothing without him. 4/3/2006 6:18:30 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
I heard Spud Webb is looking at some Real Estate in North Raleigh... 4/3/2006 6:36:44 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
I have faith in you john 4/3/2006 6:44:50 PM |
john kruk All American 5325 Posts user info edit post |
motherfuckin' right
niggas trying to prove me wrong
they'll see the light... 4/3/2006 6:46:52 PM |
yo All American 587 Posts user info edit post |
rick barnes has an ego. To feed that huge ego of his, he could come to Raleigh and become a legend, if he can bring back the NC State glory. If the money is right, why would he not want to do it? He grew up a State fan, his wife is from here, he is from Hickory, apparently he has a house in Wrightsville Beach.....just makes too much sense to me. I hope kruk is right. This would be MONUMENTAL for our program if we can get this guy. 4/3/2006 7:02:24 PM |
dave123 Starting Lineup 78 Posts user info edit post |
Barnes beach house is in Litchfield, SC and motherfucking damnit he already rejected the offer i heard 4/3/2006 7:07:45 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
hey... noone has mentioned Johnny Dawkins... what if he comes to coach? 4/3/2006 7:13:24 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
maybe dawkins hasnt been mentioned....in this thread....but yea..he's been in about 20 others 4/3/2006 7:14:17 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
yes, people have mentioned dawkins. he is a duke lifer and there is no chance of him coming here. we wont be going after any assistant coaches anyways. 4/3/2006 7:14:30 PM |
john kruk All American 5325 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=398301
[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 7:15 PM. Reason : 3000th post] 4/3/2006 7:14:50 PM |
BDubLS1 All American 10406 Posts user info edit post |
there's so many damn threads on this topic it is hard to keep up 4/3/2006 7:15:08 PM |
john kruk All American 5325 Posts user info edit post |
LOL
they're talking about me on state"fans" right now (in the "Barnes turns down offer" thread)
and Pack"Backer"s alias over there just told them to pay me no mind
haha, gg 4/3/2006 7:45:40 PM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
Some history about Barnes and UNC for the people who dont know/remember:
Quote : | " Clemson's Foul Ball
January 29, 1998
As you’ve already heard, Rick Barnes’ Clemson squad came into the Dean Dome Wednesday and fouled everything in site, losing 88-79. A record 41 fouls were called on Clemson players, fouling out Miller, Jamison, Iterbe, Woni, Wideman, Allensbach, and Buckner. That left Clemson with only four eligible players to play against Carolina’s five, what the NHL commonly calls a "power-play".
With 59 foul shots one has to wonder why this wasn’t a blow out. Most might think it was the Tar Heels’ inefficiency at the charity stripe, but UNC ended the night with 69% free throw shooting, only 2 percentage points less than their season average. No, the real reason this wasn’t a blow out of the 20-point variety was rebounding. Clemson outrebounded UNC 33-28, a small raw margin, but they got 12 more possessions in the game than the Heels did; a stark reminder of these Heels’ rebounding inabilities.
Clemson did a good job of attacking UNC’s defense. Several times they spread UNC’s overplay man-to-man defense out and took players like Ademola Okulaja and Ed Cota one-on-one. When UNC went to a 2-3 zone, however, in the second half, all that stopped and the Tigers were left to bad three-point attempts.
Oddly, Barnes reiterated his case that he didn’t prepare his team differently. While he truly sounded sincere, I still have a hard time believing that. Why was it that, all of a sudden in the season, every time Antawn Jamison touched the ball in the first half he got fouled? Why was nearly every easy UNC shot opportunity was met with a wincing blow from Clemson. Nope, I just don’t believe him. Every season the Tigers go into at least one game with Carolina and make uncharacteristically hard and numerous fouls. If anyone needs to be talking to anyone in Greensboro, it should be Barnes about why his team consistently plays rough-tough against the Heels.
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Dick Vitale said it last night, and I’ll second him: this kind of play is not good for basketball. It isn’t good for the ACC, either, and we should all think about that one a little longer.
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http://home.nc.rr.com/hoopla/z980129.html
[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 8:29 PM. Reason : .]
[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 8:29 PM. Reason : .]4/3/2006 8:27:36 PM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " UNC WINS CLEMSON CONFRONTATION THE GAME FEATURED THREE TECHNICALS AND AN ARGUMENT BETWEEN COACHES. The hard feelings evident early in North Carolina's first-round ACC tournament game with Clemson on Friday boiled over into a confrontation between coaches that generated more sparks than any of the night's basketball.
Elbows, shoves and bodies on the floor were prevalent, as in the previous two games between the teams, during North Carolina's ponderous 78-62 victory over the outmanned, undersized Tigers. But with 3:10 left to play and the Tar Heels ahead, 69-53, Dean Smith and Clemson's Rick Barnes went nose-to-nose in front of the scorer's table in a heated verbal altercation.
At issue was a foul delivered against North Carolina's Jerry Stackhouse by Iker Iturbe as Stackhouse drove for a layup, and Smith's reaction to the foul.
Though the harshness of foul did not appear much out of the ordinary, Smith rose from the bench and pointed repeatedly at Iturbe while saying something to him. Barnes, angry that Smith would address one of his players, called timeout and asked referee Frank Scagliotta to bring Smith to the scorer's table.
Smith walked toward Clemson's bench and Barnes met him halfway, barking all the while at Smith. Smith answered and the exchange grew more heated as Barnes, like a manager arguing with an umpire, tried to inch around Scagliotta to get closer to Smith.
Scagliotta finally separated the coaches - Barnes was hit with a technical, Smith was not - but order was hardly restored. Stackhouse was slapped with a technical with 1:44 to play for pushing Bill Harder into North Carolina's bench during a scrap for a rebound. And at the buzzer, as Donald Williams missed an alley-oop dunk, Harder bumped Williams' legs and was accosted by North Carolina's Pat Sullivan and Shammond Williams.
No punches were thrown. But later Friday, it was learned that ACC commissioner Gene Corrigan and supervisor of officials Fred Barakat were reviewing tapes of the incident and that it was possible an unidentified Tar Heel would be suspended for today's semifinal against Maryland. ``I don't know what Dean wants us to do,'' said Barnes, who also met with Corrigan and Barakat after the game but would not comment about their conversation. ``(Stackhouse) is going in for a layup, our help side was right where it needed to be. In that situation, you either step in and take a charge or try to block it, and Iturbe did that. Once he did that, I looked down and Dean's pointing at him, talking to him. I don't think that should happen.''
When he met Smith at halfcourt, ``I simply said to him, `You coach your team, I'll coach my team. You don't have the right to talk to my players,' '' said Barnes, who was ejected from the first meeting between the teams.
In his interview session, Smith, who has been troubled all season by Clemson's physical play, apologized for addressing Iturbe.
``I'm sorry these things occur,'' Smith said. ``Where I was wrong was to yell at Iturbe, point my finger at him. I've done that on three occasions in my coaching career, and I'm never happy about it. But in each case, it's always (because) I don't want one of my players to be hurt needlessly.''
Smith admitted he expects physical play from Iturbe, a Spaniard. But he stopped short of calling Iturbe a dirty player, saying only that Iturbe ``does things much the same as they do in European basketball,'' which is known for rough play.
``I didn't (call Iturbe dirty) and you're not going to get me to say it,'' Smith said. " |
http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/VA-Pilot/issues/1995/vp950311/03110422.htm4/3/2006 8:28:28 PM |
Pantala83 Veteran 133 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^I love all of it. I love the fire...the disdain for Dean...everything.
4/3/2006 8:44:18 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
What about his 1-11 record vs UNC?
I don't want a coach who wants to fight UNC, I want a coach who can beat UNC.. If Barnes can do that then so be it, if not... well.... 4/3/2006 8:49:08 PM |
Mescalero Veteran 440 Posts user info edit post |
at least it seems he treats the unc game differently than other games, whereas to herb it seemed like just another game 4/3/2006 8:50:20 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
AHHAAHH
if we get barnes, it will be like trading the cleanest player for the dirtiest.
herb haters: WE WANT SOMEONE WHO WILL BEAT UNC AND DOOK....WE WANT BARNES!!!!!!!
[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 8:51 PM. Reason : -] 4/3/2006 8:50:37 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I can see why people want Barnes, though I don't like him.. However, it's fucking STUPID to want a guy because he tried to fight Dean Smith even though Dean whipped him with a belt everytime they played.. 4/3/2006 8:54:09 PM |
Pantala83 Veteran 133 Posts user info edit post |
I think it is STUPID to post the same thing twice in 5 minutes...
"I don't want a coach who wants to fight UNC" 8:49 pm
"However, it's fucking STUPID to want a guy because he tried to fight Dean Smith" 8:54 pm
So that's how you get 18155 posts. YAYYY!!!! 4/3/2006 9:16:34 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
pwnt? 4/3/2006 9:18:29 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^ no it's because I have a nice job where I have tons of down time.. about 95% of my posts have come b/t 8 and 5 at work.. anyway..
You're an idiot and if you don't want to talk about the topic then I won't waste my time anymore...
** also, where do you go to law school...
[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 9:22 PM. Reason : f] 4/3/2006 9:19:40 PM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
What coaches that we actually want DO have a good record against Roy and K? Are there any?
I dont think so.
There is a reason Carolina and Duke are elite schools- because they rarely lose.
He was at Clemson then. Clemson is a different beast than NC State. He will do better here than at Clemson, and possibly better than Texas with a little time.
[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 9:21 PM. Reason : .] 4/3/2006 9:20:55 PM |
JonHGuth Suspended 39171 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "im pretty sure he does REALLY REALLY want to coach in the ACC and in particular NC State." |
how the hell do you figure that? thats completely opossite of what he said on both points. he said that he didnt want to come to the acc, was mad at our fans for attacking herb, and would not consider a move to state.
(hmm, link to article broken)
[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 9:25 PM. Reason : no link]4/3/2006 9:24:51 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What coaches that we actually want DO have a good record against Roy and K? Are there any? " |
THE HERB HATERS DEMAND THE IMPOSSIBLE4/3/2006 9:26:58 PM |
BSTE02 All American 1493 Posts user info edit post |
He nowhere said he is not a canidate. He comments are just like the comments Roy made about not giving a shit about UNC. Your crazy if you don't think he is atleast interested in talking. 4/3/2006 9:28:28 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
rick barnes didn't just lose in the final four and have kiddies to attend to 4/3/2006 9:30:42 PM |
Pantala83 Veteran 133 Posts user info edit post |
NyM410...I PM'ed you about law school 4/3/2006 9:38:51 PM |
Waluigi All American 2384 Posts user info edit post |
we should get Billy Donovan. I hear he did not grow up a Dean Smith fan and he has been to North Carolina before. We also have the tradition to make this happen. 4/3/2006 11:51:41 PM |
bamancsu Veteran 429 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncb&id=2396089 4/4/2006 1:55:45 AM |
gface All American 593 Posts user info edit post |
john kruk says
Quote : | "LOL
they're talking about me on state"fans" right now (in the "Barnes turns down offer" thread)
and Pack"Backer"s alias over there just told them to pay me no mind
haha, gg
" |
You, my friend, are sad.4/4/2006 8:36:35 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and Pack"Backer"s alias over there just told them to pay me no mind" |
My alias? You mean my screen name?
Some of you are too caught up in TWW land4/4/2006 8:43:59 AM |
EVroccck Cash$Millionaire 10294 Posts user info edit post |
texas could lose all 5 of its starters to the nBA... that would have some influence 4/4/2006 9:07:22 AM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
4/4/2006 9:21:20 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder how many e-mails barnes has received from state fans who think they make a difference? 4/4/2006 9:53:03 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
do you really think he reads those emails or any of the email
that is for the asistant to do 4/4/2006 9:59:46 AM |
BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
Well if "we" as herb haterz influenced Herb to leave...chances are that it makes a difference, though I will not be emailing anyone
III 4/4/2006 10:00:12 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
I never implied he would read them. Hell, even the help probably won't read them.
i'm just curious. 4/4/2006 10:05:46 AM |