I'll remember that the next time you try to buy beer or smokes from me.

6/16/2006 2:06:12 PM

When my ex and I went to NYC (ex under 21) she did not get carded for shit when we went out drinking the entire week (including the liqor stores). Before leaving we went to get some lottery tickets and she gets carded.

6/16/2006 2:16:36 PM

I was so pissed when I went out on my 21st birthday...I went to like 3 different bars and didn't get carded once. I thought, damn why didn't I do this 6 months ago...

6/16/2006 2:54:49 PM

my driver's license has the UNDER 21 thing on the side of my picture. i'm 22 now, and i've never had a problem buying alcohol, getting into a bar, etc. since turning 21.

6/16/2006 5:09:07 PM

I've never had this problem. The closest is when a cashier was telling me that I look way too young to be buying this and to go back to 10th grade. I think he was flirting. Or just calling me short.

6/16/2006 6:10:52 PM

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"So the day I turned 21 I went to buy my first case of beer at the Food Lion on Tryon."

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"Even as pissed as I was, I realized I had a major exam in 30 minutes on campus and had to leave but boy was I pissed that someone took my ID from me. "

Moron

6/16/2006 10:13:37 PM

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"No, he's in the wrong. Doesn't matter if he's 81. If the ID is expired, then no sale. My job depends on knowing this shit."

That may be your store's policy, but it's not the law. If he's over 21, he can buy alcohol. If he is clearly over 21, there isn't even a need to show ID. Most stores define that as appearing over 35.

You might be a douche about it, but I guarentee your manager will approve the sale and make you look like a retard.

6/21/2006 8:49:23 AM

I got carded two times in fucking Brazil where most places don't give a shit about drinking ages

6/21/2006 10:01:38 AM

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"That may be your store's policy, but it's not the law. If he's over 21, he can buy alcohol. If he is clearly over 21, there isn't even a need to show ID. Most stores define that as appearing over 35. You might be a douche about it, but I guarentee your manager will approve the sale and make you look like a retard."

indeed - you just need to actually be 21 - most stores require that you prove it to them - but there is no law that says you must prove you are over 21 to buy alcohol - stores have a policy to not accept expired IDs because they are used commonly by underage people

6/21/2006 10:39:26 AM

My girlfriend, who admitedly has a young face, once went to the liquor store and made her purchase without being carded at all. Then walks into the grocery store and tries to buy a lotto ticket...and gets carded for that

6/21/2006 11:16:51 AM

total wine made me sign a waiver form when i was 23 and my license said under 21

marko was there

i hassled the lady good for my troubles

6/21/2006 11:34:37 AM

I wound up moving not too long after turning 21, so this wasn't an issue once I ordered a license with the new address on it. As a matter of fact, it wasn't an issue beforehand, either.

6/21/2006 11:39:15 AM

^^ same thing happened to me when i got a keg from there. took a photo of my id too.

6/21/2006 6:17:14 PM

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"Now I'm not the oldest looking 21 year old, but I sure as hell don't look 11"

Not to mention that they don't give drivers' licenses to 11-year-olds.

6/21/2006 6:50:10 PM

I had a state issued ID when I was 11, they came to our school to help us get them.

6/21/2006 6:55:27 PM

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"mine still says under 21 i've never had a problem i think that was just her being dumb as shit"

6/21/2006 7:00:16 PM

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"That may be your store's policy, but it's not the law. If he's over 21, he can buy alcohol. If he is clearly over 21, there isn't even a need to show ID. Most stores define that as appearing over 35."

State law requires that if you look under 27, the store has to card you. Don't believe me? Ask the ALE.

Furthermore, I asked the ALE if the manager has the right to override a clerk's decision to NOT make an age-restricted sale--and the answer is a resounding no, and that State law specifically forbids selling to somebody to whom a sale has already been denied.

That HT manager was not only in the wrong, he broke the law. Again, if you don't believe me then ask the ALE.

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"You might be a douche about it, but I guarentee your manager will approve the sale and make you look like a retard."

Actually, no she won't. I know this, because I have had more than a few people go whining to her that I won't accept their busted-ass expired IDs for a tobacco or alcohol sale, and she'll look them right in the eye and say "Sorry, if my clerk has said no then it's against the law for me to override her."

Don't believe me? You can come down and try it.

6/21/2006 7:00:30 PM

crap that reminds me i need to go the DMV and get a new one.... stupid 5 year deal

6/21/2006 7:46:24 PM

if you card an 81 year old and then deny him because his id is expired, you are the biggest douche in the world.

6/21/2006 7:48:45 PM

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"Furthermore, I asked the ALE if the manager has the right to override a clerk's decision to NOT make an age-restricted sale--and the answer is a resounding no, and that State law specifically forbids selling to somebody to whom a sale has already been denied. That HT manager was not only in the wrong, he broke the law. Again, if you don't believe me then ask the ALE. "

that is true to a point, but it can be bent as long as they sale u something else which can be alcoholic. one time i was at harris teeter right after i turned 21, i owed my friend some money so i figured i'd buy a 12 pk and some gum then use my atm card to get cash back.

anyway the cashier cards my friend too and since he's under 21 she refused to sale to me. I made a big fuss about how i was 21 and this beer was JUST for me and he was with me just b.c he gave me a ride and i had to give him some money.

i gave my friend the cash i owed him and he left; but i kept bitching till the manager came along and said he couldn't sell me that 12 pack but i could get something else from the beer aisle

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"Actually, no she won't. I know this, because I have had more than a few people go whining to her that I won't accept their busted-ass expired IDs for a tobacco or alcohol sale, and she'll look them right in the eye and say "Sorry, if my clerk has said no then it's against the law for me to override her." Don't believe me? You can come down and try it. "

its called bad buisness

[Edited on June 21, 2006 at 7:59 PM. Reason : l]

6/21/2006 7:57:16 PM

HT @ CV's gotta be the worst place for carding I've ever seen. One time I was in line behind a group of Indian people that were all obviously in their mid 40s-50s. 5 males and one female. They were buying a single 12 pack of beer and the cashier demanded to see id from everyone in the group. The cashier actually denied the sale of the 12 pack to the group because the woman did not have an id with her. The woman had grey hair and was very obviously well over 35 years old. I can understand if it had been a bunch of college age looking kids with some 14 year old looking chick, but damn. I wish people had some common sense.

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"its called bad buisness"

Exactly. You think that group of people didn't go to another store and buy that 12 pack. HT lost out on that sale because some dumbass clerk decided s/he wanted to go on a power trip.

6/21/2006 7:59:41 PM

I had a bouncer say the whole "Your license says under 21" bullshit as I was going into a bar and tried to act like he did me a huge favor by letting me in...

YOU'RE COOL!

6/21/2006 8:32:54 PM

i've never experienced a problem with my "under 21" ID

if i did i would put the money on the counter and walk out with the beer/liquor/whatever

6/21/2006 8:40:13 PM

And then you would have the cops called on you.

6/21/2006 8:41:27 PM

the real question is why anyone would buy a case of beer at the gas station

6/21/2006 8:43:04 PM

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"One time I was in line behind a group of Indian people that were all obviously in their mid 40s-50s. "

i'd like to see a dad go in there w/ his 12 yr old son , get a 12 pack, and get turned down for alcohol b.c the guy had someone w/ him under 21. i think alot of the alcohol laws have gotten a little rediculous. omg someone drinking

this past weekend i was in greenville w/ my buddy. we decided to go visit the ABC store after hittin up the pool. as my buddy was checking out the black bitch working the register called me out across the store and said i needed to walk up there so she could verify my ID. my ID was in my car b.c i didn't plan on buying anything so i had to go all the way out there to grab it b4 she let my friend buy any booze. If i really was tryign to get someone to buy me liquor while under age i wouldn't have actually come in teh store

6/21/2006 8:59:29 PM

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"i'd like to see a dad go in there w/ his 12 yr old son , get a 12 pack, and get turned down for alcohol b.c the guy had someone w/ him under 21. i think alot of the alcohol laws have gotten a little rediculous."

If the kid gives Dad the money and I see it, I'd have to turn him down because that's considered a third-party sale.

But if the kid hasn't touched the beer at all or "held the beer money", then I'd sell.

Besides, I'd rather lose one customer that decided to get all upset because I actually stand on the law than risk the store's ABC license.

6/21/2006 10:21:49 PM

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" If the kid gives Dad the money and I see it, I'd have to turn him down because that's considered a third-party sale. But if the kid hasn't touched the beer at all or "held the beer money", then I'd sell. "

that still doesn't explain the bullshit where my friend drove me to the store. i was purchasing alcohol for myself and they wouldn't sell to me b.c he wasn't 21. last time i checked it wasn't illegal to drink around people that weren't 21.

6/22/2006 12:04:58 AM

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"that still doesn't explain the bullshit where my friend drove me to the store. i was purchasing alcohol for myself and they wouldn't sell to me b.c he wasn't 21. last time i checked it wasn't illegal to drink around people that weren't 21."

That's a different situation. Dad with his kid(s)? A reasonable person would guess that it was just Dad buying the beer for Dad. But if you're buying alcohol just leave your driver in the car if he's under 21, because it wouldn't be too hard to draw the conclusion that you may be buying the alcohol for the minor.

I guarantee you that had an ALE agent been in the store and the clerk had sold to you, you both would have been carded and you both would have been busted--you for contributing to the delinquency of a minor (or whatever the equivalent here in NC is), and your friend for minor in possession of alcohol. And the store would have been nailed too.

I agree, it's a pain in the ass. I agree, a lot of it is stupid. But the clerk has to follow the law (especially the way that the ALE tells us to).

6/22/2006 12:30:08 AM

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"I had a state issued ID when I was 11, they came to our school to help us get them."

That's not a Drivers' License, though.

6/22/2006 12:30:26 AM

So, a few months ago, I was at home for the weekend. After church, my family and I went to Food Lion to buy groceries. At the checkout, my little sister (who was 18 at the time) unloaded the groceries from our cart, including two bottles of wine that my dad picked out.

The cashier tried to card my sister, who was obviously not 21, then refused to sell my dad the wine. After arguing with her, he picked up the wine and went to a different checkout line, but the cashier followed him over there and told the other cashier not to sell him the wine. So, we ended up not getting having any wine with dinner that night, because some stupid cashier decided to be a complete dick during our Sunday family shopping trip.

Thanks a lot MADD.

6/22/2006 9:01:49 AM

That's weird. The carding your whole party thing doesn't apply when the people under 21 are your children.

Did he actually buy the groceries? I wouldn't have.

[Edited on June 22, 2006 at 9:12 AM. Reason : ?]

6/22/2006 9:11:43 AM

my license has said "under 21" for years...i'm 24...and i have no intention of forking over another $15 until it expires in 2007

however, at 12:01am on my birthday, my roommate and i went out to buy something alcoholic (for the hell of it) and the gas station attendant pulled the same crap on me about my license saying "under 21"...that was the only time i've ever had a problem...went to the next station over and got me some booze

6/22/2006 9:28:37 AM

Yeah, he still bought the groceries, because we had gotten a whole bunch of shit. The cashier only carded my little sister because she had seen her touch the wine. She didn't even talk to me. But, it was obviously a family shopping trip: it was my mom and dad, and my sister and I, and we were even still wearing our church clothes.

The really funny thing is, my dad's kind of high up at the Food Lion corporate offices, we live in Salisbury and a lot of people in the stores know him. I guess anybody can get screwed by the stupid bull shit we let the ALE pull in our state.

6/22/2006 9:40:30 AM

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"I had a douchebag at total wine make me fill out an affidavit one time saying I was 21 when I used a yellow square id to buy a keg but no one else fucks with me"

not reading the whole thread, but total wine would make you do that if you were 21 at the time. I've got a yellow id but i'm 22 and i don't have to do it anymore

6/22/2006 10:56:16 AM

i dont go to total wine just becaues of that policy

they are taking the covering their ass part to an extreme

6/22/2006 11:07:32 AM

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"he's not Indian, he's islamic"

arabic maybe?

6/22/2006 11:19:55 AM

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"It's likely just another source of income for the state. Think about it: if half of the folks in NC that turn 21 wanna buy beer, there's a $15 fee. That's a lot of extra income. There's no other logical explaination, really. "

I agree 100%.

If the fucking bastards want to start mailing free duplicates out on birthdates when the square colors change then fucking let them. Until then I'm keeping my yellow squared fucking ID's.

Lets analyze this.

1. Learners Permit
2. Limited under 18 (provisional) License
3. Full under 18 (provisional) License
4. Over 18 License (Yellow Square)
5. Over 21 License (Green Square)

Thats a lot of fucking reprints of the same stupid ass card to have in seven years.

At cookout there are timers on the wall that monitor how long the customers are waiting. If the average time gets too high the managers get in deep shit. The DMV should try this system as well.

6/22/2006 12:25:12 PM