^ Sounds about right to me. The last time the Rentals were here I was talking with them (mostly the other guys, a little with Matt) about all sorts of records and Matt struck me as having good taste...I don't think you make friends with Damon Albarn if you're a schlub.

1/29/2008 3:47:22 PM

10 points for the Damon Albarn reference

1/29/2008 7:40:50 PM

I know...I'm being that guy.

But it's all true.

1/30/2008 1:48:01 AM

hey, not hating on ya. I'm a fan of his entire catalog

1/30/2008 9:54:10 AM

pinkerton is probably one of my favorite albums of all time.

1/31/2008 8:17:05 AM

^ mine too

and MegaLOLZ: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/archives/2008/02/ivoice_rivers_c.php

Quote :

" CuomoToMyWindow: Uh, hey, is this future chat? Cuomover: no man it's present chat CuomoToMyWindow: Well, what year is it? Cuomover: i'm really not sure /does the drugs ohhh mannnn sometimes i think i should write one or more songs about smoking the drugs CuomoToMyWindow: Uh, all right. Well who's the President? Cuomover: um, hold on, let me turn on the news ok billy mays is president CuomoToMyWindow: Who's he? Cuomover: he has a ponytail and is trying to pass some sort of oxiclean or ding king legislation not my president CuomoToMyWindow: Well, whatever. You're wearing glasses, so you must be old. CuomoToMyWindow: Anyway, I logged on here to see how my future self is doing. "

2/6/2008 11:20:43 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Pork-And-Beans/dp/B0017QPT9I/ref=sr_1_95?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1208043442&sr=1-95

Pork and Beans clip, no rapping, sounds promising.

4/13/2008 11:47:22 AM

Production doesn't sound bad. I'll hold my judgment until the 22nd. Or whenever it leaks.

4/13/2008 11:54:31 AM

This is the first time in a while that I can recall the general buzz after a release to be positive on message boards and music sites.

Even Pitchfork had something nice to say http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/forkcast/50004-weezer-pork-and-beans-stream

http://stereogum.com/archives/new-weezer---pork-and-beans-full-length-track_009162.html

I still think the 2 verses in this song are kind of awful, but really like the rest of it and have found myself listening to it a lot over the last couple days. It's an interesting song to me because it was written after the band presented the album to Geffen and was told they needed a more radio friendly single. The song kind of tells everyone to fuck off while at the same time appeasing everyone with that sure-hit Beverly Hills style nonsense in the verse, yet with that old Weezer quirkiness and then older big sound in the chorus.

Hopefully it's not like Maladroit where the radio friendly single (Keep Fishin') was actually the best song on the album.

4/17/2008 3:39:25 PM

^I don't know, most every time weezer has put out something post-green album everyone is always like "he's going back to more of a pinkerton sound" blah blah blah, and it never happens.

Weezer as we once knew it is over. That's not to say that they can't put out a decent album, but it's not going to be the "old" weezer that we knew and loved. We just need to accept that and move on

4/17/2008 3:48:18 PM

Why is it that every time I see this thread title, I say to myself..."If we're lucky..."??

4/17/2008 3:58:10 PM

The going back to a Pinkerton sound nonsense is just stuff spewed out by the label and the press before anyone has even heard the music. They quoted that endlessly in the marketing leading up to Make Believe, and it was complete bullshit.

Would anyone want "old Weezer"? I mean cmon. These guys are like 40 years old now. An album like Pinkerton would just seem creepy now. There won't be another album like Blue or Pinkerton; not even close. I just want an album that is a pretty good listen from beginning to end. I'm glad they are "experimenting" now and the other guys are writing and singing.

I don't think anyone truly wants Weezer to try to replicate their first two albums. We just want them to make a good album.

4/17/2008 4:07:12 PM

that's not what I'm saying. but weezer definitely had a "quirkiness" to their music that made them unique. they don't need to recreate anything. I'd just love some of that pure originality and honesty that those first two albums had. Hell, I'd settle for a couple good tunes. Is that too much to ask?

4/17/2008 4:12:31 PM

I was just echoing your sentiments

4/17/2008 4:14:04 PM

^^yes

It's catchy, but I'm not sure how I feel about them going back to the self named album and relying on color to differentiate. My youngest sister is probably stupid enough to go and buy this one accidentally when she really meant to buy the blue album.

I think I just prefer Heart-Broken Weezer to Aging Weezer

It could be worse.

4/17/2008 4:14:13 PM

But srsly you guys. The song. Your thoughts? (http://weezer.com/)

4/17/2008 4:17:08 PM

its got enough consumer products/pop culture references in it.

4/17/2008 5:05:37 PM

actually the more i listened to it the more it started to sound blueish from the chord progression to the drumming to the vocal line--everything but the lyrics lol.

then i noticed rivers ripped off his own song. its called 'no one else'

4/17/2008 5:35:21 PM

Regular Edition (CD; digital):

1. Troublemaker
2. The Greatest Man That Ever Lived (Variations on a Shaker Hymn)
3. Pork and Beans
4. Heart Songs
5. Everybody Get Dangerous
6. Dreamin’
7. Thought I Knew
8. Cold Dark World
9. Automatic
10. The Angel and the One



Deluxe Edition (CD with special packaging; iTunes):

1. Troublemaker
2. The Greatest Man That Ever Lived (Variations on a Shaker Hymn)
3. Pork and Beans
4. Heart Songs
5. Everybody Get Dangerous
6. Dreamin’
7. Thought I Knew
8. Cold Dark World
9. Automatic
10. The Angel and the One
11. Miss Sweeney
12. Pig
13. The Spider
14. King


Also, there will be b-sides to the singles (in addition to the 4 deluxe bonus tracks). So I'm assuming that means another new song or two when Pork and Beans is released.

[Edited on April 19, 2008 at 9:48 AM. Reason : .]

4/19/2008 9:46:49 AM

this cd is going to fucking suck

4/19/2008 11:19:30 AM

why do all you negative fuckers even bother with posting in this thread? Yeah we get it, Weezer sucks, blah blah blah.

Move along people, gtfo.

When's the new album being released?

4/19/2008 6:47:09 PM

4/22/2008 12:41:09 AM

hahahahahahahahahahaha

4/22/2008 1:10:28 AM

^^ I hope that picture isn't real.

For the record, it is dissapointing to see Weezer where they are now....IMO the Blue Album was the best album of the 90's. That and Pinkerton were both incredible to me, and I really don't give a shit what any of you think about them.

By the way:

Quote :

"and since we live in a society that wont let bands reinvent themselves, weezer will never be good. same goes for smashing pumpkins. "

Radiohead is a prime example of a band that defies everything you just said.

4/22/2008 1:52:15 AM

Oh it's real

And it's awesome

BEST/WORST ALBUM COVER EVER

4/22/2008 2:02:49 AM

I give up

4/22/2008 4:06:39 PM

Quote :

"why do all you negative fuckers even bother with posting in this thread? Yeah we get it, Weezer sucks, blah blah blah. Move along people, gtfo."

yep, and it's always like the same 5 people RAWR RAWR RAWR I HATE WEEZER

the sound of pork and beans reminds me of a weezer that i like a lot better than recent albums

that transition into the chorus is pretty nice

4/22/2008 5:51:37 PM

i hadn't bothered to listen to "pork & beans" until now

it seems that rivers has decided to really say "fuck you" to the people who have been bitching about weezer records for the past seven years, instead of throwing out stylistic "fuck you"s

and in doing so, in finding some real emotion

the single is a lot fucking better

4/22/2008 6:10:41 PM

I like it. Pork and Beans, that is. It does sound more consistent with some of their older stuff, which is a good thing.

4/23/2008 12:07:50 AM

iTunes has 2 exclusive tracks listed for preordering through them. "It's Easy" and "I Can Love". That's at least 16 songs. Plus Karl has hinted at b-sides as well.

Surely there will be at least a couple good songs in there somewhere.

4/24/2008 12:54:33 AM

well, if they are anything like the green album b-sides, expect disappointment

GONNA WASTE MY TIME SUGAR... BOOGER

and Teenage Victory Song might have been the biggest letdown of a song ever.. the album title was so promising at the time

4/24/2008 1:12:29 AM

They're better than the DandyLions.. I love Weezer, one of my top 4 or 5 of all time with Nirvana, Pearl Jam...i dunno anything with Cornell, and probably a country artist or two... I don't know what's going on in this thread, but if its a new album, I'll get it, or download it, and if it's the end...then good job, you made your mark.

4/24/2008 4:34:53 AM

they made their mark four albums ago. now they're just tainting whatever greatness they once had. STOP MAKING ALBUMS RIVERS!

4/24/2008 9:09:39 AM

I disagree sir. They've already tainted everything, so at this point I say just keep going and maybe they could find a way to go out on a high note.

Plus, I've enjoyed something about every album I will say, and the discussion, anticipation, inevitable letdown and backlash each time is worth it just for the entertainment value.

4/24/2008 11:23:13 AM

Part or all of this seems to have leaked. Will report back.

5/7/2008 5:46:39 PM

good call, downloading all that shiz now.

5/7/2008 5:50:35 PM

Got a link? I'm at the album six forums but I keep timing out

5/7/2008 5:52:00 PM

"Cold Dark World": http://www.sendspace.com/file/nlu03p
"Dreamin'": http://www.sendspace.com/file/d482p1
"Heart Songs": http://www.sendspace.com/file/wr1tgo
"Thought I Knew": http://www.sendspace.com/file/dnygj1
"Greatest Man That Ever Lived": http://www.sendspace.com/file/4jfgwd
Troublemaker: http://www.sendspace.com/file/yv07m9
Everybody Get Dangerous: http://www.sendspace.com/file/4fsapp

5/7/2008 5:57:48 PM

I'm digging a lot of this so far. Think I might hate some of it. Definitely a lot more going on here than Make Believe, though. I can't really judge albums until after a few weeks of listening (and there are still 2 tracks missing from this one).

I can say that if you were wanting a trip back in time to the days of their (and your) youth, you might as well not even bother listening.

The Greatest Man That Ever Lived = RIDICULOUS

5/7/2008 6:53:40 PM

scott is almost frighteningly too muscular to be in weezer.

5/7/2008 7:04:04 PM

wtf is this awful sounding shit

seriously, this shit is at least a million times worse than "make believe"

0 for 7 so far

[Edited on May 7, 2008 at 8:09 PM. Reason : .]

5/7/2008 8:03:52 PM

You wanted arts and crafts?
How’s this for arts and crafts:
NANANANANANANANANANANANA

5/7/2008 8:37:07 PM

the small sliver of hope "pork and beans" gave me has been destroyed

this is some of the worst music of all time

5/7/2008 8:37:55 PM

I'm not trying to defend the band, because I haven't listened to the entire album, and some of what I have heard sucks, but care to elaborate?

I kind of hate to even discuss this so soon, because it will take me a couple of weeks to figure out how I TRULY feel about an album, but right now I think Trouble Maker, The Greatest Man, and Dreamin' are just awesome. I kind of like Everybody Get Dangerous, I guess. Heart Songs, Thought I Knew, and Cold Dark World seem pretty shitty so far, but I've only listened to them once.

5/7/2008 8:41:43 PM

I think there are going to be a few tracks on this that everybody (from music fans to MTV kids) are going to like... different tracks that is. But they won't like the rest of the tracks.

Looking through the Weezer discography, I honestly think "Cold Dark World" might be my least favorite track on all 6 albums. That's probably an exaggeration, and I guess it does have some nice harmonies between Scott and Rivers in the last part of the song, but it's pretty much shit.

5/7/2008 9:45:39 PM

I kind of dig "The Greatest Man That Ever Lived" haha

and "Everybody Get Dangerous" ...

[Edited on May 7, 2008 at 10:04 PM. Reason : ]

5/7/2008 9:54:31 PM

Everybody Get Dangerous is the song that it seems like I would hate but I think it's pretty fucking great

Troublemaker - Love it
The Greatest Man - So over the top. Love it
Heart Songs - wtf adult contemporary? kind of interesting lyrically but so bland
Everybody Get Dangerous - yes
Dreamin' - Enjoyable. Gets kind of odd around the bridge and might be a little too long
Thought I Knew - wtf Brian? This is a fucking The Relationship song. Way to half ass it
Cold Dark World - Cold Dark Shithole

5/7/2008 10:15:38 PM

saw this on wikipedia, i hope its true about the song "pig":

Quote :

""Pig" leaked as a demo in early 2007, this song details the life of a pig including playing in the mud as a piglet, falling in love, getting married, raising children and eventually being slaughtered."

5/7/2008 11:47:06 PM

Yeah, it's a good song IMO. It's all over the net; you should be able to find it. Don't think I have it with me here to upload it.

I'm just hoping they will do it right and won't damage it with the full band version.

5/7/2008 11:54:40 PM

Quote :

"Ernie All American 23753 Posts user info edit post http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3CDJBKW8 new rivers demo, 'pigs' not bad, queer ass make believe vocals though :\ 4/14/2007 3:04:38 PM"

5/8/2008 2:35:38 AM