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"but he is not in PR's league when it comes to pressure/performance. Peyton doesn't know what adversity is compared to PR"

moron, moron.... playing as a freshman at UT in the best football conference is a TON of pressure, playing in SEC Championship games is a ton of pressure. And I totally think Peyton would have sat if he had to at Indy, he is by far one of the more humble, good guys in football. I agree that Eli probably would have bitched, he is a little dick. PR had done NOTHING to prove himself in the NFL yet so you cannot make ANY claim about "handleing adversity" or being more clutch yet.

Quote :

"^^ did you watch the colts D last year?"

yeah, he has had ONE year with a good def... brady had a good defense last year, and he didnt win... like I said, give Manning New England's defense over the last 5 years, and I have no doubt he would have at least one superbowl.

Quote :

"Rivers hasn't proven himself as a league QB but he has shown more courage under fire "

what fire???? he hasnt even played... thats just stupid, tons and I mean TONS of players sit for 1 or 2 years before starting, that isnt anything special at all


[Edited on August 15, 2006 at 1:53 PM. Reason : e]

8/15/2006 1:53:33 PM

Yeah, really. Let's lay off this...Phil played one half of a preseason game. That's it. He did a great job, considering that Sproles got hurt, Gates was only in briefly, and Parker wasn't playing, but it's still just one half.

8/15/2006 1:57:04 PM

Quote :

"playing as a freshman at UT in the best football conference is a TON of pressure, playing in SEC Championship games is a ton of pressure."

So you prove my point. Peyton couldn't win with pressure.

Quote :

"what fire???? he hasnt even played... thats just stupid, tons and I mean TONS of players sit for 1 or 2 years before starting, that isnt anything special at all "

Rivers has NO grace time this season. It is put up or shut up for him since he hasn't had the PT that Eli and Peyton got when they first came in the league. The learning curve is STEEP for Rivers.

8/15/2006 2:04:55 PM

how does that prove your point??? the fact that he did play and win the sec championship proves MY point idiot


and hes had 2 years to slowly learn things, I would say players that had to immediately play had a LOT more pressure on them.

Face it, you are just an irrational homer, you are letting it keep you from being objective at all

8/15/2006 2:10:10 PM

Quote :

"The learning curve is STEEP for Rivers. "

YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON...HE HAS HAD TWO YEARS TO LEARN BY WATCHING A PRO BOWL QB.....HOW HAS HE SHOWN "COURAGE"???????

SITTING THERE HEALTHY ON THE BENCH COLLECTING HIS BIG PAYCHECK DOESN'T SHOW COURAGE??? JUST BECAUSE HE HASN'T HAD A RYAN LEAF TYPE MELTDOWN YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY DUBBING THIS GUY THE GREATEST QB OF ALL TIMES......HE DIDN'T WIN MUCH AT STATE EITHER SO YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

8/15/2006 2:12:20 PM

this thread turned to shit quick

8/15/2006 2:21:04 PM

okay, Jaybee and Ihatespyda, you have both proven my theory that idiots resort to name calling when they have nothing intellegent to say.

I love how you're both jumping on everybody's threads. Why don't you jump on my nuts while you're at it.

8/15/2006 2:27:07 PM

I just cant stand people that cant objectively debate sports, its childish


"wa wa, so and so is better cause I like him, wa, I'm taking my basketball and going home, wa"

8/15/2006 2:30:57 PM

and yet, you're the one getting in a hissyfit over "debating sports"

Who is childish?

8/15/2006 2:37:05 PM

no, not having a "hissyfit", read above comment please

8/15/2006 2:42:21 PM

sigh/yawn.......try again

8/15/2006 2:45:54 PM

sorry, cant spell it out any easier buddy



and who says "hissyfit", are you 60?

8/15/2006 2:56:56 PM

Its in the profile.

I used the word "hissyfit" to match how I think I should communicate with you since your entire commentary on this thread reminded me of a 3 yr old temper tantrum.

8/15/2006 3:05:18 PM

Dear Lord, everyone drop it.

8/15/2006 3:05:35 PM

^ haha, I agree, back to actual sports knowledge, not favoritism

8/15/2006 3:07:19 PM

b/c talking about PM when you're from Tenn. isn't like talking about PR if you're from NC.

lets move on

8/15/2006 3:16:17 PM

oh yeah and........... THE LAST SAYSO

8/15/2006 3:17:24 PM

see, thats where you are wrong... I am still being objective.

ask me about Tenn football last year, I will tell you they were fucking horrible, god awful.

8/15/2006 3:17:48 PM

I will not attempt to cater to your ignorance.

oh yeah and...........THE LAST SAYSO

8/15/2006 3:20:40 PM

8/15/2006 3:32:19 PM

oh yeah and...........THE LAST SAYSO

8/15/2006 3:36:15 PM

Quote :

"Rivers had to come out and show the owners/coach that keeping him wasn't a mistake. That is about the worst kind of pressure a QB can have as a first time starter. Pressure from the gitgo."

ummmm...He hasn't shown this yet...check back after I'd say atleast 4 season games the entire season!

[Edited on August 15, 2006 at 3:42 PM. Reason : .]

8/15/2006 3:41:04 PM

^^you need to be suspended

8/15/2006 3:58:01 PM

oh the fucking irony

8/15/2006 4:03:11 PM

This thread has deteriorated quickly.

Is someone seriously comparing Peyton Manning's NFL career to P Riv's

That is plain and simple the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

8/15/2006 4:08:22 PM

phillip rivers is not going to do that good this season

8/15/2006 4:20:14 PM

under no circumstances is preseason a pressure situation.

8/15/2006 4:23:57 PM

Rivers will throw for 3000+ yards, complete more than 60% of his passes and have twice as many TD's as interceptions.

He is in a great system featuring the best RB and tight end in the game, and he has been tearing it up in training camp. The chargers offense is a west coast offense that utilizes the kind of short passes and quick decisions that he does so well.

The main concern is at left tackle, but if McNeil can step up or Oben can heal up they are set there as well.

[Edited on August 15, 2006 at 4:31 PM. Reason : 2]

8/15/2006 4:30:59 PM

rivers will do fine this season

he will throw 23+ TD's and <=15 INT's

that's my guess

8/15/2006 4:31:23 PM

Quote :

"This thread has deteriorated quickly. Is someone seriously comparing Peyton Manning's NFL career to P Riv's That is plain and simple the stupidest thing I've ever heard."

I totally agree

8/15/2006 4:38:36 PM

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"^^you need to be suspended"

you need to graduate

8/15/2006 4:47:18 PM

I seriously feel that you need to be suspended for a week or two. Thats how far from up-to-par your thinking is. Wait till he faces some "real" defenses, with wicked blitzing packages/coverages!! Thats when the pressure will be on. This preseason "take it easy" style play is nothing to make such bold claims on.

[Edited on August 15, 2006 at 6:19 PM. Reason : already graduated]

8/15/2006 6:19:11 PM

im with pad

8/15/2006 6:23:26 PM

me too, the guy is really fucking dumb, at least when it comes to sports

8/15/2006 8:29:54 PM

Rivers has yet to even start an NFL game and is getting compared to the best in the business in Peyton???

Come on now, Im as big of a homer as anyone, but damn.

8/16/2006 12:16:23 AM

preach on brother

8/16/2006 12:25:21 AM

Manning has yet to even appear in a superbowl and he's being called the best in the business???

Come on now.

8/16/2006 12:56:58 AM

manning is a great qb, but there's so many different ways to judge and compare them.

brady has the most rings among active qb's, but i would rate manning ahead of him skill-wise. manning needs to get himself a ring or two before people can start arguing for him as "best ever" though.

8/16/2006 1:00:43 AM

christ you retards can ruin anything, bless your hearts

[Edited on August 16, 2006 at 3:06 AM. Reason : any statement can be defused with a "bless your hearts"]

8/16/2006 3:04:33 AM

I NEED TO PUT THIS BACK ON HERE I ENJOY IT SO MUCH

Quote :

""Hey Rivers, load this shit in my truck now" -Peyton"

8/16/2006 9:29:58 AM

you faggots need to make a different thread and stop fucking up this one

8/16/2006 10:45:13 AM

^^ Thank you, thank you, I can but try

8/16/2006 11:16:05 AM

Padowack = noob

Jaybee = ignorance is bliss

8/16/2006 11:19:23 AM

crazywade = fucking idiot with the mentality of a 10 year old

"YYYYEEEAAA! My player is the best ever no matter what! Yeeeaaa"

8/16/2006 11:25:18 AM

I know you're not talking with your rants on Tennessee.

8/16/2006 11:28:47 AM

what? my fair and objective rants??? You mean the ones where I admit they were garbage last year??? those rants?


you stupid fuck

8/16/2006 11:30:08 AM

Did you get your lines from Bill O'Reilly?

Its hard to 'member them word for word isn't it?

lol

8/16/2006 11:32:55 AM

Quote :

"Rivers hasn't proven himself as a league QB but he has shown more courage under fire than any other QB beside Drew Brees."

BWA HHAA HAHA HA HA AHA HA AHAHHA HAHA

Holding a fucking clip board on the side line, walking around SD unknown, sure is alot of courage under pressure. Honestly, I havent even see Phillip up til now. Let alone be able to judge the amount of "courage" he has shown.

SUSPEND THIS FUCKIN KID

8/16/2006 11:34:37 AM

yeah, he is a total fool


^^ and yeah, Bill invented the words "fair" and "objective", I had never heard of them before him. He also invented the microwave, carbon, and panties

8/16/2006 11:36:22 AM

lol, I have managed to get under both your skins and you still don't even get it.

Please lay off the crack and calm down. You both are going apeshit over nothing.

[Edited on August 16, 2006 at 12:48 PM. Reason : .]

8/16/2006 12:47:07 PM