Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
page 3 says fuck the haters 9/24/2006 12:43:55 PM |
Russ1331 All American 1185 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Couple this with the fact that Derany's leg decided not to show up last night and there was no way we want to attempt that field goal. The quick kick would have been a great play if #26 could have done his job and kept it from the end zone." |
How exactly do you know his leg did not show up ? Punting and kicking field goals are totally different motions and he kicked a kickoff to the endzone which is sort of a similar motion.
Also, if you watch derany before games he nails plenty of 50 yard field goals and almost all his misses from that range are because of wide right or wide left and not distance. He also made a 54 yarder last week and this field goal would have been from the 36 + 10 yard for the end zone + 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage = 51 yard field goal.
[Edited on September 24, 2006 at 2:51 PM. Reason : )]9/24/2006 2:48:37 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
we really need a punter. deraney is a great kicker but its hard to adjust to punting. almost all of his punts went striat up into the air last night and the other one went well out of the endzone.
when youre used to kicking it as far as you can and try to put some arc on it iits hard to not kick it strait up. 9/24/2006 2:51:12 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
it wasn't well out of the endzone, it would have been down on the 2 if 46 would have just hustled 9/24/2006 2:52:12 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
straight? 9/24/2006 3:08:33 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
are you serious really thinkin we need a punter
hes rated as the top kicker in the nation and has the highest % in the ACC of pinning opponents within the 20. the kid can punt, alot better than our other punters, we are gonna miss him next year. last night was a fluke 9/24/2006 3:10:26 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
if u wanna talk about bad coaching
why did we not call a timeout before the half. why did we not run the ball to the outside more with Andre.
good coaching: sitting Crouch after he got that late hit call. 9/24/2006 3:15:07 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why did we not run the ball to the outside more with Andre." |
we were practicing for FSU -- where there will be no running to the outside, only up the middle.9/24/2006 3:17:14 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
^we sure had alot of trouble running on fsu last year. when they actually had 3 amazing linebackers instead of one. outside and middle
i also really hated how we wasted our 2nd half timeouts.
about the halftime thing, i guess he wanted to play it safe since we got the ball back anyway after halftime. and wiht the new clock rules it would have been really hard to score with that much time (which we ended up proving we could do lol) hindisght is 20:20 with barbera walters 9/24/2006 3:30:05 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if u wanna talk about bad coaching
why did we not call a timeout before the half. why did we not run the ball to the outside more with Andre.
" |
ALL YOU PEOPLE WANTING US TO CALL A TIMEOUT WITH THEM PUNTING ON THEIR 40 YD LINE TO US WITH LIKE 40 SECONDS TO GO B4 HALFTIME ARE FUCKING IDIOTS
YEA THATS GREAT, WE HAVE A QB IN HIS FIRST START, LETS PUT HIM ON OUR 20 WITH 30 SECONDS TO GO WITH US DOWN 9-3
FUCKING MORONS9/24/2006 4:11:37 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
run the ball a couple times and throw a hail mary, it's not a hard concept, it's pretty safe.
might get a lucky hole on a run or a lucky catch on a hail mary. 9/24/2006 4:13:05 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
JESUS CHRIST I HOPE YOU NEVER COACH ANY TYPE OF FOOTBALL IN YOUR LIFE 9/24/2006 4:14:11 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, use your 40 seconds and try to do something productive... 9/24/2006 4:14:14 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE
ITS NOT LIKE WE HAVE A HIGH POWERED OFFENSE
YOU PLAY IT SAFE
WE WERE GETTING THE BALL BACK IN THE 2ND HALF
NO NEED TO GO INTO HALF DOWN 16-3 OR 12-3 9/24/2006 4:15:54 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
at least run a sweep with Andre, u never know what he may break. I mean wtf man, at least give him a chance, you have the timeouts why not use them. 9/24/2006 4:17:55 PM |
kbbrown3 All American 22312 Posts user info edit post |
he might save his career 9/24/2006 4:21:57 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
MY DAMN CAPS LOCK IS STUCK 9/24/2006 4:22:45 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "JESUS CHRIST I HOPE YOU NEVER COACH ANY TYPE OF FOOTBALL IN YOUR LIFE" |
Quote : | "at least run a sweep with Andre, u never know what he may break. " |
not a tough or unheard-of concept
[Edited on September 24, 2006 at 4:35 PM. Reason : fsa]9/24/2006 4:25:45 PM |
Wolfpacker06 Suspended 5482 Posts user info edit post |
I will not support Chuck until we again have a season ending in a winning record in the ACC. Once he can end a season on the top half of the ACC, then I will support him.
So I'm waiting this season...but if we end up with a losing ACC record...FIRE CHUCK 9/24/2006 4:52:49 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "at least run a sweep with Andre, u never know what he may break. " |
A LEG
[Edited on September 24, 2006 at 5:56 PM. Reason : OR A FUMBLE]9/24/2006 5:56:32 PM |
ncsujoker All American 675 Posts user info edit post |
the quick kick was a great idea...Lee was down there and let it go right by him... 9/24/2006 6:35:23 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
DWEEEDLE Quote : | "i cant see us beating ecu" |
skokiaan and many others on this thread.10/6/2006 3:38:03 PM |
yo All American 587 Posts user info edit post |
bump 10/21/2006 1:54:39 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
we suck 10/21/2006 2:32:31 PM |
spro All American 4329 Posts user info edit post |
nope, just average, which will not be settled for around here 10/21/2006 3:56:03 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
FIRE UP 680AM
HERE WE GO 10/21/2006 3:57:20 PM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
Today's coaching was God-awful. They wait until there is no time left before they start allowing the offense to do anything. Those bullshit tiptoe run plays up the middle that they kept calling did nothing but waste time. When you're down by 20, running the ball up the middle and throwing short slant passes for a loss aren't going to cut it.
Chuck and his staff fucked up today. 10/21/2006 4:03:20 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
thats trestmans fault 10/21/2006 4:13:00 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "thats trestmans fault" |
Trestman was hired by Chuck. So it is all ultimately Chuck's fault. Chuck should also have the authority to go up to Trestman and tell him to change up the playcalling.
BTW...I put this game more on the fault of turnovers than coaching. You aren't going to win a lot of games with a -2 turnover differential.10/21/2006 4:22:54 PM |
abbradsh All American 2418 Posts user info edit post |
fire chuck 10/21/2006 4:25:28 PM |
Jmhans82 All American 630 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I agree, we aren't good enough to turn the ball over multiple times and still win 10/21/2006 4:26:45 PM |
BigDave41 All American 1301 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not on the fire chuck bandwagon...but i do think he made a poor clock management move at the end of the game.
he shouldn't have called a timeout on the change of posession...the clock starts at the same time the play clock does, so the max time that could have gone off was 25 seconds. however, using the timeout there caused us to be out of time after 3rd down and we lost 12-15 seconds to spot the ball plus the 25 seconds on the play clock.
of course this didn't cost us the game...but we could have atleast gotten the ball chance back with a chance at a miracle if chuck would have managed the timeouts properly at the end of the game. 10/21/2006 4:31:27 PM |
shields27 All American 1806 Posts user info edit post |
I also don't think we should fire chuck but he has got to make the defense stay at home. We have been getting killed by misdirection plays for the last few years and its really dumb. Draw plays and reverses have killed us in the last two weeks. 10/21/2006 5:16:30 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I would at least like our AD to put out some feelers to other coaches.
I don't want to fire Chuck if we have to go through what we did with the basketball hiring process. But I do think we can do a lot better. 10/21/2006 5:24:15 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
Fire Chuck 10/21/2006 6:49:31 PM |
ApostleNC All American 3862 Posts user info edit post |
Who could we have that is better than Chuck? 10/21/2006 7:33:00 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
omg cowher norm chow. stfu people we still are ahead of fsu and only 1 game back. 10/21/2006 7:37:24 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
do you know who else is ahead of FSU in our division? EVERYBODY ELSE! do you know who else is ahead of us in the standings? EVERYBODY ELSE! now who should STFU? 10/21/2006 7:58:49 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Who could we have that is better than Chuck?" |
how high can you count?10/21/2006 8:00:41 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not too sure who else is available in any case. I don't want another basketball type episode to happen.
Greg Schiano would be my top choice without a doubt. He went to Rutgers talking about turning around an absolutely disgustingly bad program and did every bit of it. 10/21/2006 8:08:39 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
amato is an insanely horrible coach, I honestly don't see how we could do worse if we got a competent coach. He has very little coaching ability and relies on star talent
[Edited on October 21, 2006 at 8:10 PM. Reason : fds] 10/21/2006 8:10:14 PM |
abonorio All American 9344 Posts user info edit post |
I talked to two former ncsu players (now in the nfl) and they both think now and thought then that chuck should go (this is before the MD fiasco and after the WFU one)
[Edited on October 21, 2006 at 8:32 PM. Reason : .] 10/21/2006 8:32:43 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
well i talked to rivers, dave thompson and jimmy v the other day and they all said chuck needs a few more years to prove himself. 10/21/2006 8:35:07 PM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
This is completely different from the basketball situation.
The media was in love with Herb, and the situation looked as if the fan base ate one of its own, so other coaches were scared away.
In this case, the media says Amato is a joke and firing him would be seen as reasonable. 10/21/2006 8:37:43 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "amato is an insanely horrible coach, I honestly don't see how we could do worse if we got a competent coach. He has very little coaching ability and relies on star talent" |
Fire Chuck10/21/2006 9:21:49 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
i mean, honestly, when I see a coach getting his team psyched for FSU and then they fall flat against lesser teams, that is just bullshit that should not happen, and it's a sign of a bad coach.
That and the wasted timeouts, bad decisions, etc. 10/21/2006 9:34:01 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
the TO situations kill me 10/21/2006 9:46:30 PM |
divinguy04 All American 1385 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I talked to two former ncsu players (now in the nfl) and they both think now and thought then that chuck should go (this is before the MD fiasco and after the WFU one)" |
10/21/2006 11:10:05 PM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
we just need a new offensive coordinator that will have balls to throw past the line of scrimmage and run outside the tackles...
and
a quaterback that can throw DOWNfield for more than 50% 10/21/2006 11:21:58 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
i cant see us beating ecu 10/21/2006 11:23:02 PM |