if i ever rob a kid of something he has paid for with a loaded shotgun and a ski mask

go ahead and shoot me , im obviously incapable of being a decent member of society

12/12/2006 11:29:07 AM

ryan had the shotgun and mask, not peyton

12/12/2006 11:30:40 AM

Holy shit. He shot the kid through a closed door? That's crazy.

Really sucks for the dog, though. I'd lunge at the bastards too, if they'd just killed my master.

12/12/2006 11:32:08 AM

yeah the dog got it the worst

12/12/2006 11:34:19 AM

^^^an accomplice to armed robbery gets the exact same charge.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 11:35 AM. Reason : a judge might take pity during sentencing, but the jury won't.]

12/12/2006 11:34:28 AM

was the dog outside? it would have had to be if they shot through a closed door and the dog lunged at them. maybe?

12/12/2006 11:51:43 AM

they knocked the door down.

12/12/2006 11:52:39 AM

oh. this stuff is crazy.

12/12/2006 11:53:36 AM

^ Not necessarily, a deputy was in the process of opening the door with a battering ram when the other put at least two rounds through the door. The dog could have easily been inside and attacked when the door was opened.

12/12/2006 11:53:40 AM

Yeah, that's what happened.

If were in the family, I'd find some way to punish them for killing the poor dog.

12/12/2006 11:55:42 AM

fuck the cops... nobody deserves to die for some sensless shit...however ol boy brought this shit on himself...lastly that cop is an idiot for poppin off two rounds after hearing the ram...he should've known that shit was coming...hell he obviously saw it hit the dayum door

12/12/2006 11:57:01 AM

all dogs go to heaven

12/12/2006 11:57:24 AM

so who has to pay to replace the door?

12/12/2006 12:00:34 PM

Quote :

"After deputies banged on the door and announced their presence, David said, Strickland came toward the door. He then stepped back into the living room. He and the deputies could see each other through small windows in the door. One deputy then began striking the door with a battering ram, David told the judge. Long, who stood behind the deputy with the battering ram, later said he mistakenly thought he heard gunfire, David said. But the sound was only the battering ram, which no other deputies on the team mistook for gunfire. Long then fired three shots through the closed door, hitting Strickland in the head and in the chest near the right shoulder, David said. The head shot, which passed through Strickland's skull, killed him."

So he could see Strickland well enough to hit him with 2 out of 3 shots - why couldn't he also see that he wasn't rythmically firing with the sound of the battering ram?

Quote :

""The original crime was a violent offense," he said Monday. "We had information from a web site that there were weapons inside the residence. Mr. Strickland was involved in a series of violent assaults. And Mr. Riley was known to always carry a pistol.""

Thats great. I have a concealed carry permit. Does that mean that I am a high risk individual in the eyes of the law?

12/12/2006 12:03:29 PM

And all that time eleusis just would not believe a cop would shoot through the door before it was even fully opened.

Quote :

"it wasn't a no-knock warrant. they had to announce themselves first, regardless of whether they took the door down or not. since the dumbass didn't bother to secure a fucking German Shepherd, which you know good and damn well is going to attack intruders when it senses fear in its owner, it's his own damn fault that the dog got shot for doing what natural instinct told him to do."

I'll be sure to secure my dog the next time I get shot through my front door perhaps one second after hearing a battering ram.

http://www.wect.com/global/story.asp?s=5800925

Also, check out this article (Hopefully it isn't old). They knocked, saw him through the glass part of the door, saw him turn (didn't say he ran, just turned), then they hit the door with the ram and immediately opened fire. Didn't give him much time to secure that dog now did it?

You think he was trying to secure the dog when he turned? That's what he was supposed to be doing, remember? So, should they have shot him if he didn't try to secure the dog as well? Also, is it illegal to turn and say, "Um, guys, the police are here?" He could have been doing any of those things.

12/12/2006 12:08:29 PM

Quote :

"We had information from a web site that there were weapons inside the residence"

so many cops are SO FUCKING LAZY. i am so sick and tired of seeing all this internet "evidence" lately. THE INTERNET IS NOT REAL.

its like if the cops went over to some actors house looking for drugs cause he played the part of a dealer in a movie once. some people are so fucking stupid

i wish more people would stand up in court and fight for their rights. internet shit is not real, and lots of judges agree.

12/12/2006 12:09:19 PM

^^^did you not have that explained to you when you took the class for your concealed carry permit? most cops freak out when they see that you have one when they stop you for a routine traffic stop. I bet they are 10 times worse when they're trying to serve a warrant.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 12:11 PM. Reason : .]

12/12/2006 12:10:33 PM

Quote :

"Also, is it illegal to turn and say, "Um, guys, the police are here?" He could have been doing any of those things."

Or to say "Shit! Hide the fucking PS3!"

^ awesome. even though i got the permit so i would be ok during the 3 days a year that i have a gun in my car and don't feel like leaving it out in the open.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 12:12 PM. Reason : .]

12/12/2006 12:11:07 PM

I'd imagine as an 18 year old kid he didn't know what the fuck to do at that point. I really doubt that he figured he'd be able to hide it from a team of officers raiding his house.

Not to mention, the police know that nobody's going to be able to hide it. So they still wouldn't need to shoot him to prevent that from happening....

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 12:18 PM. Reason : ]

12/12/2006 12:14:41 PM

^^my dad and I got ready to get a permit for that exact same reason (firearm transport), but after talking to sheriffs and sheriff's deputies in 2 different counties we realized just how bad of an idea that is. Cops go apeshit when they see those pop up on your record, and I'd rather not be approached at gunpoint every time I get pulled over.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 12:15 PM. Reason : .]

12/12/2006 12:14:50 PM

fuck.

i got it after i was pulled over for speeding and had a pistol under my seat.

the cop didn't know it was there or even try to search the car, but i was still freaked out.

12/12/2006 12:18:35 PM

different cops react different ways. A friend of mine got one, and said that he got pulled over for running a stop sign shortly after getting it. When he rolled down his window and put his hands out the window saying that he had a concealed carry permit and a loaded handgun in the glovebox, the cop told him to have a nice day and quickly got back in his squad car to leave.

A couple months later something similar happened to that same guy again, and that cop made him get out of the vehicle and sit in the back of the squad car while he wrote a ticket.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 12:21 PM. Reason : the second cop approached him with his gun unholstered also.]

12/12/2006 12:21:11 PM

besides the insanely low bond, i think new hanover county did a great job on this.

i was a little disappointed that they didn't charge the other cops with murder.

12/12/2006 12:36:27 PM

with as many students as they have in the area it would scare off a lot of people if they legalized the murder of 18 year olds

i know for a fact that a lot of good strippers are alumni of cape fear community

12/12/2006 12:46:53 PM

eleusis has been wrong in this thread more times than i can count

12/12/2006 12:50:47 PM

actually, I've been right in this thread more times than you have. you're the dumbass that thought this would qualify as first degree murder.

12/12/2006 12:52:39 PM

Quote :

"halfwit All American 1588 Posts user info edit post HE DIDN'T EVEN OWN A GUN AND NO GUNS WERE RECOVERED AT THE SCENE Sgt. Greg Johnson, Detective Larry Robinson and Cpl. Christopher Long ARE MURDERERS [Edited on December 6, 2006 at 4:56 PM. Reason : c] "

more evidence of your bullshit in this thread

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 12:55 PM. Reason : there were three guns owned by Peyton at the scene.]

12/12/2006 12:54:47 PM

SO THE FUCK WHAT. HE OWNED GUNS. THAT IS LEGAL.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 1:10 PM. Reason : .]

12/12/2006 1:10:07 PM

the point is that halfwit is full of shit. that's all. I already justified Peyton's gun ownership earlier in this thread.

12/12/2006 1:13:01 PM

everyone in this thread has already said you're the one who's full of shit.

12/12/2006 1:13:43 PM

it's a shame that no one cares about the facts anymore.

12/12/2006 1:20:33 PM

YES, YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS THE FACTS.

12/12/2006 1:21:49 PM

Eleusis and Halfwit ARE MURDERERS OF THIS THREAD

12/12/2006 1:22:10 PM

INDEED

12/12/2006 1:22:36 PM

Police don't murder, they improve situations

12/12/2006 1:56:32 PM

natural selection

12/12/2006 1:57:50 PM

at least we can be sure peyton wont get to commit a 3rd felony

12/12/2006 4:12:07 PM

Quote :

"THE INTERNET IS NOT REAL"

this is where you dumbasses are wrong. police can use whatever info they want to figure out things about their suspects.

that said: this kid most likely shouldn't have been shot and there was likely some criminally bad judgement on the part of the cops on the scene.

12/12/2006 4:17:41 PM

Quote :

" Long, who stood behind the deputy with the battering ram, later said he mistakenly thought he heard gunfire,"

Anyone who is familiar with gun fire, doesn't mistake much for gun fire except...well...gun fire.

12/12/2006 4:37:08 PM

http://www.wilmingtonstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061212/BREAKING/61212011

perfect ending to this. let the civil wrongful death lawsuit proceed.

12/12/2006 4:45:14 PM

omg, what the hell is going on here?

12/12/2006 4:46:03 PM

wow.....cover up conspiracy in the works.

12/12/2006 4:50:37 PM

Those boxes can be so confusing.

Check here, check there.

12/12/2006 5:11:31 PM

hah. I just saw that on the news and was like wtf. "Oh shit, we checked the wrong box."

12/12/2006 5:16:32 PM

ahahahhaha

could it get any worse???

12/12/2006 5:22:35 PM

it's the good 'ol boys club in action...again...

12/12/2006 5:23:12 PM

http://www.newsobserver.com/1419/story/520661.html

recent article though i guess it pretty much says what that one does^^^^^^^

12/12/2006 5:32:51 PM

I bet his roommate is sure glad he wasn't the one opening the door.

Quote :

""These simple mistakes happen," McGuinness said. "But now my client can try and get back to a normal life.""

Gee, isn't that nice for him. Don't you think it'd be nice if the Strickland family could do the same? Fucking pigs.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 5:38 PM. Reason : merf]

12/12/2006 5:35:17 PM

Quote :

"wow.....cover up conspiracy in the works."

"So, here's how it'll work--you just say that you checked the wrong box, and we'll deposit $10,000 in an offshore account for you--got it?"


REMEMBER KIDS……….COPS DON'T MAKE MISTAKES!!!!!!!911

12/12/2006 5:37:28 PM

^the cops are out looking for the real killer right now, who is reported to be a black male wearing a hooded sweatshirt.

12/12/2006 5:38:37 PM