haha duke is not in the UNC System

12/12/2006 1:52:16 PM

the baby blue faggots had teh balls to go to cameron and taunt the duke students. they have pairs. it's the dark blue faggots that need to grow pairs, and respond in a less-bitchy fashion than they have.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 2:08 PM. Reason : ..]

12/12/2006 1:52:23 PM

i just dont see how any of you WOLFPACK students/fans/alum can "stand up" for UNC for anything

12/12/2006 1:52:59 PM

eh you can't really have a logical conversation with treetwista, so don't try

12/12/2006 1:53:02 PM

you hear that spooner? Crede knows whats best for you and he knows whats best for UNC and Duke as well

12/12/2006 1:53:38 PM

I can't follow my own damn advice, either

12/12/2006 1:53:56 PM

as i said, i hate them equally as much, so i'm unbiased.

12/12/2006 1:54:03 PM

well I hate UNC more than Duke

if they are playing a bball game (or football), I will pull for Duke

I might not pull for Duke any other time, but Anybody But Carolina

ABC should be stronger in some of these nancies like Crede

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 1:55 PM. Reason : .]

12/12/2006 1:54:45 PM

i like treetwista though, he has good insights into rap music. yes lawd. apparently, though, his hatred for unc runs deep.

^ i dunno, i've had a lot of bad encounters with arrogant duke students (such as one of them telling me, while at wharton for my MBA - "they let state students into wharton??"), that i'm just not a big fan of them either.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 1:57 PM. Reason : ..]

12/12/2006 1:56:14 PM

Just because you hate someone doesnt mean you have to be happy when they get unfairly shit on.

12/12/2006 1:56:40 PM

^ Why not?

12/12/2006 1:57:21 PM

I hate Duke FAR, FAR more than UNC. So I'm biased. But I don't give a shit. The Duke students should have manned up and made the kids lives a living hell at that game to the point they didn't want to come back. Instead they took the whining, complaining way out.

Fucking nerds, those Dookies.

12/12/2006 1:57:59 PM

I think it's time for a little:

Quote :

"“In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart. I simply can't build up my hopes on a foundation consisting of confusion, misery and death.”"

--Ann Frank

lols

12/12/2006 1:58:39 PM

The ammount of hours taken isn't even the thing that gets me. The point of free student tickets to the games is to have support for the teams at the games. The behaivor of these UNC students was detrimental to the team and I'm pretty sure there is a clause that any student who is not supporting the team can lose their privIlege to the free tickets...at any school.

12/12/2006 1:58:47 PM

^^^ sure it does. that's what hate is all about.

12/12/2006 1:58:55 PM

Quote :

"The behaivor of these UNC students was detrimental to the team"

SUSPEND

12/12/2006 1:59:27 PM

Free athletic tickets is a privilege and thus can be revoked.

The behaviour of past Robertson students made the Student Senate revoke that privilege.

I don't see what is so "wrong" about this...even if UNC wasn't involved.

12/12/2006 2:00:43 PM

^I can't keep this up. You don't tell kids they are Duke students and then tell them they can only have some of the priveledges of Duke students. There's not supposed to be a "line". That's against the whole point of the program.

12/12/2006 2:03:54 PM

^^I don't think there's anything illegal about it, but it's a bitch move.

OMG, there are Chapel Hill fans out our camp-out!!!

I mean, was it a public safety issue or something? Were fights breaking out?

Unsurprising bitch move from Duke.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 2:07 PM. Reason : ]

12/12/2006 2:06:36 PM

i still support duke's move. unc's just trying to ruin it for everybody =P

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 2:07 PM. Reason : ]

12/12/2006 2:07:23 PM

This just confirms the idea that Duke students are a bunch of whiney New Jersey brats.

12/12/2006 2:08:23 PM

^ it's more than just an "idea"....

12/12/2006 2:10:01 PM

Quote :

"I already hate Duke. But. This might actually make me hate Duke less. Why should they let UNC students sit in their student section?"

12/12/2006 2:14:14 PM

If we had a similar arrangement I would totally expect our school to implement a similar decree. And if they didn't I'd be pissed.

It's not like you are denying them access to the games. They can still get tickets in the general allotment. They just can't campout because of previous students behaviour.

12/12/2006 2:15:23 PM

It's like the no bonfire policy at State.

12/12/2006 2:17:24 PM

^ not really. i mean, the bonfires posed at least the potential of physical danger. carolina fans pose no such problem.

12/12/2006 2:23:01 PM

Quote :

"Former UNC Chapel Hill political science professor Eric Mlyn, the Robertson program's president, said the ban is unfair. Mlyn said he scolded UNC Robertson scholars for their behavior at last season's game."

So the kids were probably being douches anyway about UNC winning.

12/12/2006 2:25:52 PM

This is not a Constitutional issue. Oh my Jesus.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 2:26 PM. Reason : ]

12/12/2006 2:26:13 PM

haha, this is another reason to like dook

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 2:28 PM. Reason : fixed]

12/12/2006 2:28:01 PM

"Another reason to hate Duke unc-ch" would have been a more appropriate title for this thread...

12/12/2006 2:30:46 PM

Quote :

"It's not like you are denying them access to the games. They can still get tickets in the general allotment."

Did you read the article? They are denying them free tickets and making them TRY to get walk up tickets, available to everyone (student or not) which they would have to buy. It's not the same as giving some State fans courtside seats and then others free upper level seats...

** This doesn't make me hate Duke or UNC anymore. It's just silly...



[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 2:35 PM. Reason : x]

12/12/2006 2:34:33 PM

If they are UNC fans they need to go sit in the student section at the unc home games and leave cameron alone (unless they are going to cheer for duke).


V

you can try if you want (sit in the student section) but if somebody doesn't let you then you have no grounds to cry about it.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 2:59 PM. Reason : V not in the "student section". ]

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 3:00 PM. Reason : for free]

12/12/2006 2:55:10 PM

So you're saying I shouldn't be allowed to go to Joel and cheer for State?

12/12/2006 2:56:52 PM

yeah, i guess the visiting team's fans should never dare enter the home team's arena. hahaha, so those times i went to kenan to watch us play unc (and got in with student tickets), i was morally out of line. ahh well!

12/12/2006 2:58:58 PM

Quote :

"[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 2:59 PM. Reason : V not in the "student section". ] [Edited on December 12, 2006 at 3:00 PM. Reason : for free]"

Why not?

I'm a Wake student. I have just as much right to sit in the Wake student section as anyone else.

12/12/2006 3:03:42 PM

Quote :

"The Duke students should have manned up and made the kids lives a living hell at that game to the point they didn't want to come back."

The problem with this 'argument' is that then the Duke kids would have gotten punished for it...possibly even had their K-ville ticket privileges revoked. Imagine that?

12/12/2006 3:08:16 PM

By giving the kid a little hell? Are you kidding me? I guess Duke really is full of nerds...

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 3:10 PM. Reason : agreed with sarijoul VV 2 down..]

12/12/2006 3:09:08 PM

Quote :

"I agree with duke here. Anyone who sticks it to UNC go right ahead."

Technically they are sticking it to a small amount of their own students. It will be intersting to see if UNC responds and bans the Duke Robertson Scholars from the Dean Dome.

12/12/2006 3:09:17 PM

^^^and that would have been fine. also: banning those specific students who were misbehaving at the last game would have been fine too. banning all robertson scholars, on the other hand, is not.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 3:10 PM. Reason : ^^^]

12/12/2006 3:09:51 PM

I agree with TreeTwista

Quote :

"well I hate UNC more than Duke if they are playing a bball game (or football), I will pull for Duke I might not pull for Duke any other time, but Anybody But Carolina ABC should be stronger in some of these nancies like Crede"

Duke can be bitches about this subject all they want but i will never show any sympathy for unc. Tarheel faggots tarnish our student section every year. Duke is a private university that can govern themselves and student tickets are a privilege. A privilege that may be revoked.

12/12/2006 3:11:17 PM

^Thank you. Are Duke students bitches? Absofuckinlutely. Is this the right thing to do? Absofuckinlutely.

12/12/2006 3:12:47 PM

that would be all cool if they hadn't entered into an agreement with the robertson scholars.

12/12/2006 3:14:59 PM

^Please, please please show me this agreement that you claim to know so much about. The one that says their free students ticket rights are any less revocable than any other Duke student's. Because that would really help your argument. It's easy to reference a document you know nothing about and use it to support your point.

Example: The Magna Carta fully supports the Duke student senate's decision.



[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 3:20 PM. Reason : .]

12/12/2006 3:19:13 PM

well. a good friend of mine was a robertson scholar. i'll ask her. as far as she described it, you become an enrolled full-fledged duke student the semesters that you are taking classes at duke.

and as i mentioned before, it'd be all cool for them to revoke the ticket rights of those individuals who apparently caused a problem at the last game (if this is indeed true). but it is NOT alright for them to deny ticket rights to all of robertson scholars just because a handful of them caused trouble. this would be like not allowing any out-of-state students at ncsu not have tickets because a handful caused a ruckus at one game.

12/12/2006 3:24:02 PM

From the article

Quote :

"One of the key features of a program that is "unequalled in American higher education," according to its sponsors and officials on both campuses, is the idea that participants have "full student privileges" on both campuses. That includes access to courses, faculty, research opportunities and arts, cultural and sporting events. "

To me, this means that they have just as much as a right to camp out as normal Duke students. This is why I don't understand why Duke's student government had the right to take away their main way to get tickets to basketball games. However, they obviously did have this right because the administration did not overturn the decision.

12/12/2006 3:26:40 PM

Student tickets are a privilege. Let's say fraternity X gets a block of free tickets, and some of their members cause a problem at a big game. Would you say it's right for them to prohibit that frat from getting those tickets?

12/12/2006 3:31:02 PM

it's not the same situation at all and you know it.

12/12/2006 3:32:25 PM

Instead of the unc students ruining the duke students' time, the duke students should have been the ones causing the unc/robertson scholars to have a terrible time. Obviously had duke won the game then their outlook on this topic may have been different but the duke students should have been giving those faggots as much hell as they possibly could.

12/12/2006 3:33:43 PM

If they had never even been to the arena before, yeah i would oppose banning them. Future fraternity members should not suffer from past fraternity members actions just like future robertson scholars should not suffer from the actions of past robertson scholars.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 3:38 PM. Reason : jyett]

12/12/2006 3:35:35 PM

^^ amen. good gracious. amen.

look, i work with one of the robertson guys who did this last year. i'm sure they were loud and annoying, but i doubt they did anything out of line. this dude that works with me is completely harmless. so it sounds ot me like the game was "ruined" for these dook kids by the team losing, not by some carolina fans.

[Edited on December 12, 2006 at 3:38 PM. Reason : .]

12/12/2006 3:37:39 PM