sexy sexy

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 3:03 PM. Reason : pg3!]

1/9/2007 3:03:40 PM

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"My point is this: if Apple isn't putting a big HDD in the iPhone, cool."

my point is this: if Apple (or anyone) puts a HDD rather than flash memory in a phone, they are RETARDED.

1/9/2007 3:04:05 PM

i have a slow connection here, so i am not going to bother looking it up, so can someone tell me:

is the phone CDMA or GSM?

i mean, could i buy it from the US, and bring it overseas and just put a sim card in?

if so, that would be super cool.

if not, apple is stupid and doesn't know how to make money.

1/9/2007 3:07:33 PM

cingular means GSM I'm pretty sure.

1/9/2007 3:09:39 PM

and what's up with 8 GB?

i thought 30 GB flash laptops and 64 GB flash memory sticks were out from some manufacturers.

it wouldn't have been too difficult for apple to do 16 or 20 GB.

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 3:10 PM. Reason : ^so i could put a sim card in it outside the US?]

1/9/2007 3:09:51 PM

the apple pages are updated with all the tech specs and design info on the new products

http://www.apple.com/iphone

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"Technical Specifications Screen size 3.5 inches Screen resolution 320 by 480 at 160 ppi Input method Multi-touch Operating system OS X Storage 4GB or 8GB GSM Quad-band (MHz: 850, 900, 1800, 1900) Wireless data Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) + EDGE + Bluetooth 2.0 Camera 2.0 megapixels Battery * Up to 5 hours Talk / Video / Browsing * Up to 16 hours Audio playback Dimensions 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm Weight 4.8 ounces / 135 grams"

almost exact same size as the iPod except 0.4 inches taller. almost the same depth as the 30GB, 0.09in thinner than the 80GB. Same weight as the 30GB

http://www.apple.com/appletv/



[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 3:16 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2007 3:10:44 PM

Quote :

"i mean, could i buy it from the US, and bring it overseas and just put a sim card in?"

as long as its not locked to cingular, yes

are the prices if you also buy a 2 year cingular contract, or are the prices for the device by itself?

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 3:13 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2007 3:12:15 PM

prices are with 2 year contract (from pictures of presentation)

Apple may lock the phone up making it only usable on cingular networks although I suspect that would only be because of some contractual agreement with cingular. I know lots of cingulars phones (sony ericsson e.g.) can be used overseas with other services/sim cards.

1/9/2007 3:17:58 PM

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"iPhone combines three products — a revolutionary mobile phone, a widescreen iPod with touch controls, and a breakthrough Internet communications device with desktop-class email, web browsing, maps, and searching — into one small and lightweight handheld device"

what about camera?

it sure has one, but they say it combines 3 products. shouldn't it say 4?

Quote :

"But unveil a widescreen iPod to compensate...seriously, it makes no sense other than "one more thing" would've been too much and potentially stolen some of the limelight"

needless to say, all iPods will soon be like this with the touch screen.

only a matter of when. probably just a few months.

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 3:26 PM. Reason : ]

1/9/2007 3:22:27 PM

what's up with the Airport Extreme only having a 10/100 Ethernet port?

Grantetd, 100M Ethernet full-duplex will outrun about any 802.11n network in any realistic environment, but if you want to "move" TV shows/movies from your Mac to Apple TV's 40gig hard drive, you now are limited by 100M
Ethernet or 802.11g/n. vs., giving those with Cat5e/6 wring in their house no option for GigE.

I mean it's really kind of nitpicky, but when even the Mac Mini has a GigE port, it's a bit of a head scratcher.

Oh, finally found public info about the iPhone name issue.

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/newsanalysis/techtelecom/10331512.htmlcm_ven=YAHOO&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA

"Apple made a last minute agreement with Cisco (CSCO - commentary - Cramer's Take - Rating) for use of the iPhone name."

1/9/2007 3:24:55 PM

creen size 3.5 inches
Screen resolution 320 by 480 at 160 ppi
Input method Multi-touch
Operating system OS X
Storage 4GB or 8GB
GSM Quad-band (MHz: 850, 900, 1800, 1900)
Wireless data Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) + EDGE + Bluetooth 2.0
Camera 2.0 megapixels
Battery
Up to 5 hoursTalk / Video / Browsing
Up to 16 hoursAudio playback
Dimensions 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm
Weight 4.8 ounces / 135 grams

1/9/2007 3:45:01 PM

Quote :

"and what's up with 8 GB? i thought 30 GB flash laptops and 64 GB flash memory sticks were out from some manufacturers. it wouldn't have been too difficult for apple to do 16 or 20 GB. "

Precisely. Big SSD and NAND drives are out there. Pricey, though.

And Bobby, what about Apple not releasing an 802.11n router?

edit: btw, yeah, 2-megapixel camera in this thing

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 3:48 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2007 3:48:39 PM

blackberry stock just tanked $11.17 and apple is up~7

1/9/2007 4:05:37 PM

I dunno why though. Unless apple tries to get into the enterprise push email business I dont see them touching RIM's customer base.

Buying a blackberry for a personal phone is kinda dumb imo.

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 4:07 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2007 4:06:58 PM

fucking sexxxxy..
i knew it would be too difficult for apple to bring UMTS off the bat.
What you got to say sandsanta?

1/9/2007 4:10:55 PM

likely because they lost the hoodie market... go to the mall and see who's carring the blackberries and the treos

1/9/2007 4:11:25 PM

I'd like to see apple include a cablecard port and an integrated atsc/ntsc/qam tuner as well as a much bigger drive on the appletv

1/9/2007 4:24:11 PM

^ Then you'd have a TiVo, not a media streamer.

1/9/2007 4:32:27 PM

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"^ Then you'd have a TiVo, not a media streamer. "

that'd be sweet

1/9/2007 4:36:34 PM

it would be both. something that I'm sure EVERYONE would rather have. fuck hdtv over wifi, shit doesnt work

1/9/2007 4:40:44 PM

^ And something that would cost a lot more, and probably require a monthly fee ala TiVo.

Apple's all about simple. Building an HTPC that records/stores/plays back broadcast TV is not simple. for the folk Apple is going after I guess.

1/9/2007 4:43:50 PM

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"^ And something that would cost a lot more, and probably require a monthly fee ala TiVo."

I'm pretty certain that the ATSC tuner in my television doesn't cost me anything monthly.

It has been a while since I've checked my credit card bill though!

1/9/2007 5:02:12 PM

the point is, you pay for cable already, even basic, now you can record hdtv over qam. you get a ton of subscription hdtv content? great now you can record it too. It really makes no sense to not put a gigE port on it though, streaming 1080p h264 over wifi or 10/100 is iffy at best. 720p avi is already more than 802.11g can handle

1/9/2007 5:06:49 PM

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"it would be both. something that I'm sure EVERYONE would rather have. fuck hdtv over wifi, shit doesnt work "

Yeah, the iTV's HD is to cache content.

Just like your iPod syncs to a computer, the iTV will sync to a computer.

They mentioned something about streaming too, and I don't know if that meant stream from the computer to another computer, or stream from the iTV to other computers, but it can do that as well.

And, I can almost stream 720p HD videos from Apple over the cable internet connection, then I can definitely stream 720 vids via wifi locally in my house.

1/9/2007 5:25:06 PM

the iphone makes me wet

may be worth cancelling sprint contracts for

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 6:38 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2007 6:38:05 PM

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"And, I can almost stream 720p HD videos from Apple over the cable internet connection, then I can definitely stream 720 vids via wifi locally in my house. "

You can actually max out 802.11B bandwidth on a standard road runner connection. I used to use it as a wireless bridge and it was no fiction.

1/9/2007 6:49:21 PM

i kinda wish the iphone was a little smaller, but im fucking getting one

1/9/2007 6:56:32 PM

I don't know about the places where you work, but our company spends comparable amounts on blackberries. They even send people to those silly training courses that cost ~$2000. The service pricing is also similar.

I suspect that Apple will also end up being the catalyst for lower/simpler data service pricing from cell carriers, as it has for various other technologies.

The initial market is definitely not poor people, though.

1/9/2007 7:01:57 PM

I was really hoping it would be a bigger screen video ipod...... The iphone is cool, but it would be better as an 80gb ipod with that screen.....that would be sweet.

I wonder if it would require a data plan from cingular...ie a pda phone?

[Edited on January 9, 2007 at 7:24 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2007 7:18:34 PM

My contract with Cingular is coming up. If apple or some other 3rd party comes up with a folding keyboard for that phone I'm picking it up, period.

1/9/2007 7:30:58 PM

^^It probably wont require it, but you will of course need it to utilize all of the features
^there are already bluetooth keyboards for phones so it probably wont take long for one to be compatible

1/9/2007 7:34:01 PM

I can't wait for the first richie richies on campus to get this...remember when folks first started getting the RAZR? they'd walk around the brickyard talking to themself just so folks were like "OMG RAZR LETS BWN!"

1/9/2007 7:49:50 PM

Quote :

"i kinda wish the iphone was a little smaller, but im fucking getting one "

It's not that big, slightly larger than the current iPods, but slightly smaller than the old model of iPods.

1/9/2007 8:05:19 PM

v. nice phone, sad it has to go to cingular

Quote :

"my point is this: if Apple (or anyone) puts a HDD rather than flash memory in a phone, they are RETARDED."

i can't believe this thing doesn't have GPS

1/9/2007 8:06:17 PM

I like it, I'm not a fan of flip phones anyway really, and since its so thing I feel life I can slip in my pocket or jacket really easy anyway so as it stands without using it, I like the taller form factor

1/9/2007 8:09:01 PM

i hope they resolved the scratching screen issues they've had in the past too, this is going to SUCK if you have to have a case for it.

1/9/2007 8:23:45 PM

yeah, now that i'm over the initial reaction of i have some rational thoughts....

1) i too just realized there is no GPS. that sucks, especially with the seeminly tight integration with Google Maps. big oversight.

2) this puts the regular iPod shopper in a big delimma. The current video iPods are now second rate. why would anyone want to buy a 30 or 80GB iPod with a tiny ass screen when there is a sleek, nice new wide screen iPod out. Within a couple months, they have to introduce a new line of iPods to replace the current 5G iPods. These will have large hard drives, plus the widescreen, touch screen, plus bluetooth, but no phone or internet.

3) i hope they have some revolutionary screen material that a) doesn't scratch, b) is glossy, and yet c) slides frictionlessly under the finger. I hate to think that every time you touch it you get smudges, or your fingers kind of skip along the glossy surface

4) it's sad to see the click wheel go. From watching the Quicktime videos on apple.com, it looks like to scroll you have to move your fingers back and forth in a line (only touching in one direction, of course). And while i'm sure the acceleration is very nice, the genius of the clickwheel is that you never have to lose contact with the surface, and a circular motion is natural, where a repeated linear motion isn't really

1/9/2007 9:01:47 PM

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"4) it's sad to see the click wheel go. From watching the Quicktime videos on apple.com, it looks like to scroll you have to move your fingers back and forth in a line (only touching in one direction, of course). And while i'm sure the acceleration is very nice, the genius of the clickwheel is that you never have to lose contact with the surface, and a circular motion is natural, where a repeated linear motion isn't really "

If you look at that video, on the right side of the screen is the alphabet. I bet you can drag along that bar to scroll through songs too.

1/9/2007 9:13:09 PM

What would be the purpose of the USB connection on the back of the AppleTV?

1/9/2007 9:25:24 PM

As of now, the iTV USB port is not for anything except service and diagnostics.

1/9/2007 9:32:12 PM

i want one sooooooo bad

1/9/2007 9:51:44 PM

Quote :

"this puts the regular iPod shopper in a big delimma. The current video iPods are now second rate. why would anyone want to buy a 30 or 80GB iPod with a tiny ass screen when there is a sleek, nice new wide screen iPod out. Within a couple months, they have to introduce a new line of iPods to replace the current 5G iPods. These will have large hard drives, plus the widescreen, touch screen, plus bluetooth, but no phone or internet."

price points and amount of storage seperate this from the current line of ipods

1/9/2007 10:16:00 PM

8GB just isn't enough

1/9/2007 10:28:57 PM

^it was enough for your mom last night


Lord of the dorks!

1/9/2007 10:40:47 PM

oh yeah, one more thing -
5) they didn't show direct access to the iTunes Store via the phone and it doesn't say anything on apple.com. They would be stupid not to allow you to browse, search and buy from the Store directly on the iPhone.

1/9/2007 11:00:08 PM

some have said it in this thread but....
Only supporting EDGE is lame. hell the HTC Cingular 8525 supports UMTS and my WM5 has wifi b/g and does EDGE.... Guess what... data over EDGE is SLOW. It doesn't even compare to the speeds of EV-DO. Anyone that thinks they are going to do any kind of cool data shit is fooling themselves.... Skype on this device? Hell no.

Cool phone, I'd play with it, but buy it? Nope. Cingular already has HSDPA/UMTS deployed in Raleigh/Durham.

iPhone -- Whoop de fucking doo

1/10/2007 12:09:21 AM

it does wifi, thats really all i need.

1/10/2007 12:48:40 AM

^ me too.

I wouldn't even buy a data package, because they're too expensive for what little away-from-wifi surfing I would desire to do.

1/10/2007 2:06:11 AM

They should have an option to record calls for playback later.

1/10/2007 2:12:12 AM

The scrolling.

The scrolling...is awesome.

But

DEAR GOD

THE PHOTO RESIZING!!!

[Edited on January 10, 2007 at 2:59 AM. Reason : 4]

1/10/2007 2:46:19 AM