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"How long before you shift your comments into the "i'm innocent, and all these people are trolling me, and they should be suspended" language that you normally do right about now?"

I could set my damn watch by your posts. There really is something "up" when every thread takes the same path. That shouldn't normally happen during regular discourse between rational, intelligent people.

[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 12:51 PM. Reason : a]

4/17/2007 12:50:33 PM

^I'll have to completely prove you wrong once again...sigh

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"i'm innocent, and all these people are trolling me, and they should be suspended"

1. i'm guilty of actually discussing the topic
2. only you are trolling me...not "all these people"...just you...what a shock!
3. i'm not calling for anyone to be suspended...banishing someone i don't agree with is not my solution even though its yours

and here is the last post from page 2 for all the people with common sense...considering its more well thought out than any post you've made in your life:

I read the intial story and was skeptical that TDS/TCR audience was necessarily more informed than people who followed the news for reasons other than comedy

Instead of just looking at the headlines from the intial summary article, I actually looked at the Pew Group's website and the specifics of the poll

I then posted this gif (http://people-press.org/reports/images/319-14.gif) which showed that not only did the audience of "Major newspaper websites" have the same percentage of people in the High Knowledge Group, but that the TDS/TCR audience was only more knowledgeable about identifying Scooter Libby. The audiences of "Major newspaper websites" on the other hand were more knowledgeable about naming Sunnis, being able to identify Vlad Putin, and being informed on the number of US deaths in Iraq...I used evidence directly from the Pew's source site to support my earlier claims and validate them with evidence

your only retort to that pwnage (pwnage pertinent to the thread topic btw) was to start claiming I watched Fox News...yet I'm the problem

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"Maybe if folks like you were a little more vocal in calling for the banning of trolltwista from this section, we wouldn't have these problems. It's been common knowledge for the better part of a year that no one I don't likes the guy and people I want him banned. Hell, McDanger peaced out because of it. "

Oh I think your countless failed efforts at censorship of people you don't agree with or don't like is sufficient for everyone...and McDanger left? Hey, YOU LEFT! Because you couldn't handle it so you requested that mods suspend you! You have zero self control, and its also been common knowledge for years that NOBODY likes you in ANY message board section

While most of my posts in this thread up until the last few have actually dealt specifically with the topic at hand, go look back at State409c's posts...nothing intelligent, constructive, productive...just trolling...in fact the only post he makes thats actually relative to the topic was

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"And this whole time I had no idea I am not allowed to take serious news seriously AND laugh when it gets made fun of by a satire show."

I only troll trolls...and State409c is the biggest troll on TWW...he trolls anyone anytime...I've been commenting on this poll, its validity...I've questioned the methods of collecting data...and overall, despite being berrated by other people who just blindly read summary headlines, the .GIF I posted shows that I was right all along...while baldy has been trolling all along

Its really not that difficult to see if you have any common sense at all

4/17/2007 12:53:42 PM

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"Instead of just looking at the headlines from the intial summary article, I actually looked at the Pew Group's website and the specifics of the poll"

Now you are just lying. The first thing you did was attack the credibility of the poll...because, well, thats what any good troll would do to stir up some controversy.

4/17/2007 1:02:02 PM

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"i'm guilty of actually discussing the topic"

What is there to discuss? The thread creator just restated what the poll found, that Women and Fox News viewers are less informed. There is no debate about that

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"only you are trolling me...not "all these people"...just you...what a shock!"

Most people aren't as bored as me. And while I might be trolling you directly, plenty of other people aren't responding about the thread topic, but about your trolling

Here

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"Twista, you are such a troll. It's ridiculous, dude. All you do is attack liberals/liberal ideas, and you also post ridiculous "points" that no thoughtful person would ever consider--actually, I take that back...we all have stupid moments. But you have them continuously; there's no possible way you could be genuine with the bullshit you spew. And another thing. You make a ton of assumptions about other people, and people are exhausted and exasperated and don't feel like correcting your childish assumptions so they argue within your assumptions. And the second they attempt to glean something about you, you are so goddamn quick to jump back and claim you're neutral or independent. It's like you won't call yourself a conservative, but you exclusively criticize everything liberal--there's a lot of users like this. Rarely, you make these eloquent, incisive remarks...almost like there's another person using your account. Why can't you try for that more often?"

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"i'm not calling for anyone to be suspended...banishing someone i don't agree with is not my solution even though its yours"

That isn't my solution. Yet again, you show how stupid you really are.

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"your only retort to that pwnage (pwnage pertinent to the thread topic btw)"

What pwnage? I'm not the idiot attempting to argue against facts. I don't have one problem at all with major news outlet readers being more informed than TDS show viewers. I'm not the one that attempted to turn this into a left vs right battle like you did.

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"I only troll trolls..."

Really, here is a nice quote in reply to joe_shmoe

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"i could say all liberals who watch the daily show need to know is "Bush iz uh idiot" and "How come evil ol Cheney doesnt like muh rainforests" and I would come off sounding just as dumb as you just did"

Even though it's patently obvious there is nothing dumb sounding about anything he had just posted, and it's blatantly clear that he has more command and knowledge of any subject matter you might attempt to post about, except for maybe weed. So yea, you were trolling there.

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"I posted shows that I was right all along.."

Right all along about what? Anyone can restate the results of the poll and claim being right.

I mean, this was your first attempt at an assertion

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"the fact im even having to try and convince you that people who watch fake news shows on a comedy network are not necessarily as informed about politics as people who watch REAL news shows is laughable"

Where you hadn't actually appeared to be trying to convince anyone of anything yet.

Which is why Bridget called you a troll.

Face it clown. You're a phony. A waste, and worthless to this section.

But please, continue to play the innocent card and hope that someone is perturbed enough by my occasional direct and overt trolling to complain to a mod so they can suspend me and then not tell me who did it or why.

[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 1:18 PM. Reason : a]

4/17/2007 1:14:12 PM

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"TreeTwista10: I then posted this gif (http://people-press.org/reports/images/319-14.gif) which showed that not only did the audience of "Major newspaper websites" have the same percentage of people in the High Knowledge Group, but that the TDS/TCR audience was only more knowledgeable about identifying Scooter Libby. The audiences of "Major newspaper websites" on the other hand were more knowledgeable about naming Sunnis, being able to identify Vlad Putin, and being informed on the number of US deaths in Iraq..."

I never would have argued that the people who regularly visit major newspaper websites (if they can't get hard versions) scored worse on the test/poll...after all, information to the contrary is in the original post:

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"Pew judged the levels of knowledgeability (correct answers) among those surveyed and found that those who scored the highest were regular watchers of Comedy Central's The Daily Show and Colbert Report. They tied with regular readers of major newspapers in the top spot -- with 54% of them getting 2 out of 3 questions correct."

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"TreeTwista10: I used evidence directly from the Pew's source site to support my earlier claims and validate them with evidence"

Your initial claim was that this is not a credible poll...

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"TreeTwista10: so the people who scored teh highest were regular watchers of The Daily Show and The Colbert Report sounds like a credible poll!"

Why and how would you use evidence directly from the poll to support your earlier claim that it's is not a credible poll? That doesn't add up.

What is your claim exactly?

[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 1:20 PM. Reason : ?]

4/17/2007 1:17:16 PM

I was going to reply about how you've been changing your mind this whole post but bridget seemed to sum it up for me. You are now saying what we've been saying all along, TDS/CR viewers are more informed than most people and have 20% more people in the high catagory than the average. No one said TDS/CR viewers were more informed than people getting their information from major websites so I don't know why you are trying to throw that in everyones face.

The topic of this post was about how fox viewers are among the least informed. The humorous part was that TDS/CR viewers were far above Fox viewers and tied for the top.

4/17/2007 1:31:10 PM

Hi. I made this thread.

The main topic, as I had originally intended it was to point out that despite being a 'news outlet' Fox doesn't do a very good job of informing people.

Maybe they should stop the flashy graphics and focus more on content.

4/17/2007 1:41:24 PM

seems like their show the O'Reilly Factor has just as an informed audience as NPR

4/17/2007 1:43:03 PM

Now he does another one of his classic troll tactics, ignores he was dominated and tries to toss some more bait out there for everyone.

Hopefully, no one takes it this time, and drops a note to the mods that this bullshit needs to be stopped.

4/17/2007 1:46:36 PM

no bait...just going off the gif i posted which shows the O'Reilly Factor (which I believe is shown on the Fox News channel?) has just as an informed audience as NPR



state409c, make your damn feedback forum threads and call for me to get suspended already, quit talking about it like a bitch...oh or maybe you can not put me on block again

hey did you notice on that gif also that the TDS/TCR audience and the Fox News audience have almost identical knowledge about the US Deaths in Iraq?

4/17/2007 1:47:55 PM

We can read the poll, thanks.

4/17/2007 1:52:45 PM

It's interesting that O'Reilly and Rush have more informed audiences than CNN, Yahoo, Google, etc

Hey where is mediamatters.org? Where is prisonplanet.com?

4/17/2007 1:54:54 PM

I think your troll bait has soured.

4/17/2007 2:00:49 PM

I think you never have anything to say that relates to the topic one iota.

Maybe you can prove me wrong by commenting on how even though Fox News is nearly dead last in informed audience, how they have almost identical knowledge about US deaths in Iraq as TDS/TCG viewers

Or perhaps you'd like to coment on how Rush and O'Reilly have more informed audiences than CNN, Google, Yahoo? Funny how nobody but me has commented on that. From reading TSB threads I thought Rush and O'Reilly were complete idiots, which would mean their audiences are even bigger idiots. Care to comment?

I'm once again trying to stay on topic...why don't you prove you're a big boy and can actually talk about the issues too. So, are you a big boy, or are you a little baby?

4/17/2007 2:05:22 PM

^I want you to write your commentary on the poll. No rhetoricals. No baiting. Include your answers/ideas about some of the questions you just asked. Wrap this thing up and blow our minds, like I know you can do.

4/17/2007 2:19:59 PM

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"From reading TSB threads I thought Rush and O'Reilly were complete idiots, which would mean their audiences are even bigger idiots. Care to comment?"

Rush and O are idiots, but as much as you would like that to imply that their audience would be because of this, it doesn't.

Maybe they like seeing O'Reilly teeter on the brink of an aneurysm on a daily basis. Who knows.


What any of that has to do with Fox News viewers being less informed, is a bit beyond my grasp at the moment. Maybe you should do like Bridget said, and drop some knowledge on us. And by knowledge, I don't mean retyping in longer phrases what the poll facts do quite readily and more succinctly.

4/17/2007 2:23:40 PM

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"Maybe they like seeing O'Reilly teeter on the brink of an aneurysm on a daily basis. Who knows. What any of that has to do with Fox News viewers being less informed, is a bit beyond my grasp at the moment"

well for one thing, O'Reilly viewers ARE Fox News viewers

kind of like how Sopranos viewers are HBO viewers

4/17/2007 2:32:57 PM

Quote :

"^I want you to write your commentary on the poll. No rhetoricals. No baiting. Include your answers/ideas about some of the questions you just asked. Wrap this thing up and blow our minds, like I know you can do."

4/17/2007 2:48:49 PM

look who wants to be a big boy and actually talk about the issues now instead of just trolling me!

or maybe you dont want to talk about the issues...just repeat what bridget said asking me to talk about the issues...when thats what i've been doing all along

4/17/2007 2:50:52 PM

It has nothing to do with being a big boy, or even talking about the issues really. I am still trolling you, because I don't think you can post any worthwhile, original thoughts of your own regarding that poll, without looking like a mental patient. And I'll continue to post what Bridget requested, you'll continue to ignore it, other people will continue to be irritated, nothing will get accomplished. Isn't it fun?

4/17/2007 2:54:53 PM

its not fun if im the only one talking about the thread topic and youre the only one trolling

it just shows that youre a douchebag with nothing to say

why dont you read through all your posts in this thread...you can count on one hand how many of them had anything to do with the topic

just dont blame soapbox going to shit on me alone if you are admittedly just trolling me because you have no life

i came out the gates firing about the topic...i questioned the poll's validity...then i looked into it in detail...while people like you just looked for someone who disagreed with you to troll

4/17/2007 2:58:17 PM

I can't possibly imagine a college educated (or soon to be) person would keep posting the way you have in a serious manner so I'll just assume you are doing it as a joke or to piss people off so I'll stop responding.

You haven't even tried making a point in this entire thread. The only thing you've done is try to prove other peoples points wrong and then just about everytime end up completely wrong. And then you try to divert attention to other information and the cycle starts again.

Every question you asked to be commented has very simple explanations that all agree with the very things you have been trying to disprove this entire thread. Rush and O'Reilly have more informed audiences than CNN, Google, Yahoo because they deal almost exclusively with political and national issues. O'Reilly is ONE show on Fox that specifically deals with the information that was surveyed. Interesting thought though, if O'Reilly's viewers were removed from the Fox viewers group think how much worse the statistics would look and it would show even more how most newscasts and shows on Fox are complete garbage at giving accurate information.

If you are going to compare O'Reilly with anyone it would have to be TDS/CR because they are both single shows not entire networks and both deal with current issues. Basically Fox viewers are statistically less informed than the other networks (something many polls have showed), and O'Reilly viewers are less informed than TDS viewers (although not by much).

adios

[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 3:05 PM. Reason : TBS->TDS]

4/17/2007 3:03:11 PM

^hey im just glad you're willing to talk about the topic, even if you're bashing me in the process

most people just troll the shit out of me without even talking about the topic

according to you what course should this thread have taken? initial post, then a bunch of other posts saying "I AGREE"?

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"I can't possibly imagine a college educated (or soon to be) person would keep posting the way you have in a serious manner so I'll just assume you are doing it as a joke or to piss people off so I'll stop responding. "

maybe once you finish college and get out into the real world you'll realize that not all people think like you do...i've noticed that over the last 5 years since i've been finished with school

4/17/2007 3:06:03 PM

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"its not fun if im the only one talking about the thread topic and youre the only one trolling it just shows that youre a douchebag with nothing to say"

Fortunately, other people still reply to these threads, even though you do a pretty good job of trying to kill them.

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"just dont blame soapbox going to shit on me alone if you are admittedly just trolling me because you have no life"

I give you a chance in every thread you post in to actually be a worthwhile poster and not troll, but you let fail every time.

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"while people like you just looked for someone who disagreed with you to troll"

I haven't disagreed with you in this thread you dumbass.

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"most people just troll the shit out of me without even talking about the topic"

I can't figure out why one person would garner so much ire from so many other posters. Can you?

[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 3:11 PM. Reason : z]

4/17/2007 3:10:14 PM

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"I give you a chance in every thread you post in to actually be a worthwhile poster and not troll, but you let fail every time."

you're one to talk

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"I can't figure out why one person would garner so much ire from so many other posters. Can you?"

probably because you're always trolling? I mean thats why most people dont like you, but I cant speak for everyone

how is it that the main person who has a problem with me also happens to be accepted as the biggest troll on TWW? You can say I derail a few threads here and there, but when I go into threads its to talk about what the threads are about...when you go into threads, its to talk shit to people who you have decided to troll...theres quite the difference

its funny when i glance back at your posts over the years and people call you the biggest troll on tww back then...nothings really changed

hey why dont you "block" me again like you "blocked me" before?

4/17/2007 3:15:17 PM

Quote :

"probably because you're always trolling? I mean thats why most people dont like you, but I cant speak for everyone"

You're so awesomely clever, I see what you did there you smart guy. Now answer the question, why do you feel like so many people are trolling you when you are so innocent and a worthwhile poster to this section? You can't answer can you?

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"how is it that the main person who has a problem with me also happens to be accepted as the biggest troll on TWW?"

What about all the other people that aren't trolls that have a problem with you?

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"its funny when i glance back at your posts over the years and people call you the biggest troll on tww back then...nothings really changed"

What the fuck is "back then"?

The biggest troll moniker is definitely a new creation, I'd say last 2 years max, mostly the past 1yr. And I can't help that people get their feelings hurt when the truth smacks them in the face and the best they can do is cry about getting trolled.

[Edited on April 17, 2007 at 3:29 PM. Reason : a]

4/17/2007 3:24:29 PM

Quote :

"why do you feel like so many people are trolling you when you are so innocent and a worthwhile poster to this section?"

i dont...i only feel like you are trolling me...nobody else but you...you're the only one whos trolling me...just you

now if you would like to discuss anything regarding this poll (this thread's topic), go right ahead

if you want to cry to the mods about why i should be suspended, then make yet another thread in feedback forum

if you dont want to do either of those things, then stfu...or of course you could do what you always do and just troll away

4/17/2007 4:05:07 PM

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"i dont...i only feel like you are trolling me...nobody else but you...you're the only one whos trolling me...just you"

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"most people just troll the shit out of me without even talking about the topic "

So you are saying that I am "most people"? I mean, I always knew you were inferior to me, but damn.

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"now if you would like to discuss anything regarding this poll (this thread's topic), go right ahead"

Stop being a moron, this thread died a long time ago. Make a new one about some other topic if you want to debate something.

4/17/2007 4:17:54 PM

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"So you are saying that I am "most people"? "

when it comes to trolling, yes you are most people

although your butt buddies scuba steve and joe_schmoe are about the only other people who ever troll me

whereas damn near everyone on TWW trolls you, considering you are the biggest troll in the history of TWW

Quote :

"Stop being a moron, this thread died a long time ago"

I agree...specifically, it died at 2:48:11 PM yesterday

I resurrected it with the 2nd post of page 3, but you made sure to kill it immediately afterwards

4/17/2007 4:27:37 PM

Wow, you really have smoked yourself retarded.

4/17/2007 4:51:05 PM

I'm State409c, aka TypeA...I am a troll...I'm State409c, aka TypeA...I am a troll...I'm State409c, aka TypeA...I am a troll

4/17/2007 5:02:22 PM

If you weren't so dead brain retarded from all the chronic you have toked, I wouldn't have to troll you.

4/17/2007 5:17:06 PM

trolling me isnt going to make your dick and balls "unshrink" nor is it going to bring back your hair

you chose to take the steroids and you must deal with the consequences

4/17/2007 5:19:39 PM

Fact: You smoked tons of chronic and are dumber because of it.

Fact: The closest thing I have taken to steroids is some creatine with grape juice.

Troll better.

4/17/2007 5:47:54 PM

Fact: You are baldheaded
Fact: You have done more steroids than Barry Bonds
Fact: You are a homosexual with many boyfriends

4/17/2007 5:49:24 PM

TreeTwista10: blah blah blah
Random User: blah blah
TreeTwista10: blah blah blah
Random User: blah blah
TreeTwista10: blah blah blah
Random User: blah blah
TreeTwista10: blah blah blah
Random User: blah blah

Why is this a reoccurring theme?

4/17/2007 7:51:01 PM

State409c: blah blah blah
Random User: blah blah
State409c: blah blah blah
Random User: blah blah
State409c: blah blah blah
Random User: blah blah
State409c: blah blah blah
Random User: blah blah

Why is this a reoccurring theme?

4/17/2007 7:52:31 PM

No, he exclusively trolls you.

4/17/2007 7:53:24 PM

you forgot the /sarcasm tag after that post

4/17/2007 7:56:14 PM

[...] in the SB

sorry

4/17/2007 7:59:44 PM

well he just got unsuspended a day or two ago so he hasnt had a chance to fully get back in the swing of things

4/17/2007 8:00:41 PM

4/17/2007 9:43:01 PM

Why do we continue to bother with Twista in a serious manner? You guys are clowns for attempting to respond to him rationally. It's the same story in every thread. He starts off trying to make sense, gets dominated by an intellectually superior person, then slowly morphs his posts from legitimate to legitimately trolling, so he can get a giggle out of riling up the Soap Boxers.

Hell, he and his $14hr dead end job IT buddies probably get a nice kick out of seeing how he can get such consistent responses on a daily basis.

Don't feed the damn troll people. Hate me as much as you want, but you know just as well as I do that as soon as this ass clown stops fucking up this section, I'll stop being such a nuisance.

4/17/2007 10:08:29 PM

what would be really funny if TreeTwista10 and State409c were actually the same person.

wait.

no it wouldnt be funny. it'd be

forget i said anything.

4/17/2007 11:08:26 PM

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"Why do we continue to bother with Twista State409c in a serious manner? You guys are clowns for attempting to respond to him rationally. It's the same story in every thread. He starts off trying to make sense, gets dominated by an intellectually superior person, then slowly morphs his posts from legitimate to legitimately trolling, so he can get a giggle out of riling up the Soap Boxers."

fixed it for you

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"Hell, he and his $14hr dead end job IT buddies probably get a nice kick out of seeing how he can get such consistent responses on a daily basis."

I dont get $14/hour, I get paid in salary...~$50,000/year fyi...but aside from that, I actually do have some buddies that work in IT...surprise, people in 2007 have jobs in computers! However I don't share TWW with anyone because its pretty lame...not as lame as some bald homo, but lame just the same

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"Don't feed the damn troll people. Hate me as much as you want, but you know just as well as I do that as soon as this ass clown stops fucking up this section, I'll stop being such a nuisance"

Don't feed the TreeTwista or the damn State409c either people. Hate whoever you want as much as you want, but you know just as well as everyone that State409c is the biggest troll in TWW history...ask CrazyJ...ask Joe...ask jackleg...ask fucking anyone...if you believe he'll stop posting in TSB if I leave TSB, then you apparently arent aware that numerous users consider State409c/TypeA (why the name TypeA anyway? NCSU409c already taken? I doubt it) is the biggest troll on the site

For anyone that says I know NBA (for example) but should stay out of politics, hey, at least you give me props on something I know

State409c on the other hand...hell including Premium Palace there are a dozen sections...and he is a troll in all of them

So figure out your damn blame people...if you think its only me thats fucking up TSB topics then you're obviously a retard...but hey, at least you're not a steroid addict

4/18/2007 2:23:52 AM

Premium Palace? You have smoked yourself retarded.

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" So figure out your damn blame people...if you think its only me thats fucking up TSB topics then you're obviously a retard..."

Stop posting in TSB for 2 weeks and lets see. You don't have any self control, so I doubt you will.

I mean for fucks sake man, your lame ass came in from the bar and posted some stupid pointless bullshit at 2:20am in the damn morning during the work week. Get some help dude.

[Edited on April 18, 2007 at 8:31 AM. Reason : a]

4/18/2007 8:29:10 AM

Proving once and for all that girls can't be both pretty and intelligent, since Foxy women would be the least informed of all


(ok, horrible pun... I'm banishing myself from soap box for a while, sorry guys )

4/18/2007 9:53:05 AM

I'm State409c, aka TypeA...I am a troll...I'm State409c, aka TypeA...I am a troll...I'm State409c, aka TypeA...I am a troll

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"Premium Palace?"

yes including Premium Palace there are a dozen sections...are you saying there arent a dozen sections including Premium Palace? wow those steroids have turned your brain to mush

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"You don't have any self control"

Says the guy who has to ask mods to suspend him! Wow is EVERYTHING you say hypocritical?

4/18/2007 12:29:54 PM

and this is why you shouldn't respond to personal attacks from people in the soapbox.

4/18/2007 12:35:48 PM

Quote :

"yes including Premium Palace there are a dozen sections...are you saying there arent a dozen sections including Premium Palace? wow those steroids have turned your brain to mush"

Have you smoked yourself retarded? Why don't you answer to why you were posting on tdub at 2am on a work night ChronicTwista.

4/18/2007 12:39:07 PM