Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12522 Posts user info edit post |
did anyone else think the doctor (Albert Finney), looked just like Brian Cox's character from the last movie? 8/8/2007 5:33:55 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
I wasn't too happy with the plotline of this one. The action scenes were great, but the plot kinda (did) suck.
He starts off trying to get revenge for the girl? What was the whole second movie about? I thought it was him saying "don't fuck with me, or I'll fuck you up. leave me the fuck alone." Why, if he was so passionate about the girl dying, did it take a whole movie of that point being ignored for him to decide he wanted revenge?
Why, also, did they just drop the whole "revenge for the girl" bit halfway through this one and go back to him trying to find out who he was? 8/8/2007 7:11:09 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I thought the "trying to find out where he came from" was his main goal from the beginning because he kept saying stuff like "he was there in the beginning" and those flashbacks were throughout the whole movie 8/8/2007 7:50:37 AM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12522 Posts user info edit post |
^^this movie wasnt about him getting revenge for the girl at all. it does start off just after he killed the guy that killed his girl, and he does go to see her brother, but then he tells him he already got revenge and says hes going to find out where all the shit started
[Edited on August 8, 2007 at 12:16 PM. Reason : $$$] 8/8/2007 12:14:20 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "did anyone else think the doctor (Albert Finney), looked just like Brian Cox's character from the last movie?" |
for a while i thought they were the same character8/8/2007 12:50:48 PM |
DiamondAce Suspended 12937 Posts user info edit post |
When thinking of Brian Cox's character I kept saying Albert Finney
This was before seeing this movie 8/8/2007 1:01:12 PM |
1 All American 2599 Posts user info edit post |
it would have been better without some of the cheesy music
and if Nicky shot Desh with his own gun after he knocked down Bourne 8/8/2007 5:32:21 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it would have been better without some of the cheesy music " |
I hope you aren't including Moby - Extreme Ways in that, because that is a kickass theme8/8/2007 5:43:12 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He starts off trying to get revenge for the girl? What was the whole second movie about? I thought it was him saying "don't fuck with me, or I'll fuck you up. leave me the fuck alone." Why, if he was so passionate about the girl dying, did it take a whole movie of that point being ignored for him to decide he wanted revenge?
Why, also, did they just drop the whole "revenge for the girl" bit halfway through this one and go back to him trying to find out who he was? " |
because the whole series is focused around him trying to figure out who he was...
1 was -- who the fuck am i? why do i have this thing in my hip that tells me i have a swiss bank account with tons of fake passports, tons of money and a gun? why am i described in the newspaper as an assassin? oh..i am an assassin? fuck that! why the fuck did i want to do that? leave me and my new grlfriend alone or i'll fuck you up big time!
2 was -- you killed my gf! why the fuck did you kill my gf? i told you to leave us the fuck alone and now you're going to pay! what--you didn't kill my gf but you think i killed someone? wtf i was half way on the other side of the world! wtf is this shit that i was involved with? who killed my gf and who's framing me? and why? oh i killed this russian dude...and his wife? damn, i gotta find these people framing me, set things straight and apologize to the daughter of the people i killed even though i have no idea why i killed them.
3 was -- damn they still think i'm a threat even though i have no fucking idea what i was. the only way i'm going to figure this out is if i face this shit head on and find all the answers myself.8/8/2007 10:52:42 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this does not compare to the new die hard movie" |
Correct. Because one of them completely sucked ass, and the other one was Bourne Ultimatum.8/9/2007 12:12:51 AM |
vanillagoril All American 548 Posts user info edit post |
does anyone remember what bourne says to that dr. at the end...when he asks bourne if he was going to kill him now? something like you don't deserve and i missed the rest. 8/15/2007 9:10:45 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
you don't deserve the plaque they'd honor for you at langley or something to that nature. 8/15/2007 9:12:25 PM |
vanillagoril All American 548 Posts user info edit post |
oh that's pretty awesome...thanks. 8/15/2007 9:13:16 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
It was actually that he didn't deserve the star they would put on the wall for him. 8/15/2007 9:23:45 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
every CIA operative killed in action gets a star on the wall in Langley 8/15/2007 9:41:43 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
yeah that was it...star on the wall
i couldn't quite remember, haven't seen it since premiere night. 8/16/2007 8:26:53 AM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
solid action flick...A+++ 8/19/2007 10:52:51 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
finally saw it. killer - i wish I had seen it earlier so tonight could have been my 2nd viewing! best of the three
couple small things, that have mostly been hit on already..... 1) Bourne really doesn't seem to have much trouble getting in and out of CIA and government buildings. It looked like my office building has more security than where the Blackbriar director sat 2) it's funny how whenever he's with a girl who needs to go incognito, they just dye their multi-colored hair black, cut it, and they're off. Bourne, on the other hand, doesn't even bother to put on a hat. 3) i also don't know why they picked two actors who look amazingly similar to play the ultimate villains. It was very hard to tell, especially in some of the flashbacks, if he was talking to Hirsch (Finney) or Abbot (Cox)
-- oh yeah, maybe i'm reading a bit too much into it, but I felt there was a jab at Bush and Co. when Landy was asking Vosen something like "when will this all be over" and his ultimate response was simply "when we win"
[Edited on August 19, 2007 at 11:03 PM. Reason : .] 8/19/2007 10:54:07 PM |
federal All American 2638 Posts user info edit post |
^ I thought the same thing about the Bush jab. 8/19/2007 11:44:01 PM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think it was a jab at Bush. She was simply asking when all this chaos(chasing Bourne, etc) would be over, and by "When we win" he was meaning when Bourne is dead. I thought that was pretty obvious. 8/20/2007 1:55:38 AM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12522 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i also don't know why they picked two actors who look amazingly similar to play the ultimate villains. It was very hard to tell, especially in some of the flashbacks, if he was talking to Hirsch (Finney) or Abbot (Cox)" |
yeah, i made a comment about this earlier, i dont know why they didnt change his look to make it less confusing8/20/2007 2:27:39 AM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i don't think it's worth arguing about because it's just speculation, but i felt there was a little bit more behind the question. Landy was talking more about when everything ould be over - project Blackbrier, killing people at will, killing Americans, covering their asses all the time. Vosey's response of "when we win" was clearly referring to more than just Bourne (he could have just said "when Bourne is dead"). And the reason it makes me think of Bush is because that's his same bullshit response about Iraq and the war on terrorism. "When we win" is a simplistic and insufficient answer of how to finish a war, or a covert CIA operation that has spun out of control. 8/20/2007 7:42:37 AM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
I still think you are wrong, you are looking way too far into it. They were playing a game of cat and mouse, and when is it over? When they win. It had nothing to do with making a jab at Bush. 8/20/2007 2:46:24 PM |
incubuz Veteran 205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ i don't think it's worth arguing about because it's just speculation, but i felt there was a little bit more behind the question. Landy was talking more about when everything ould be over - project Blackbrier, killing people at will, killing Americans, covering their asses all the time. Vosey's response of "when we win" was clearly referring to more than just Bourne (he could have just said "when Bourne is dead"). And the reason it makes me think of Bush is because that's his same bullshit response about Iraq and the war on terrorism. "When we win" is a simplistic and insufficient answer of how to finish a war, or a covert CIA operation that has spun out of control." |
yea man FUCK bush
i really liked how they did the timelines of the second and third movies8/20/2007 7:37:50 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
that timeline thing really threw me for a loop, especially since i had just watched the 2nd one. i thought the beginning of the third occurred immediately after the second, or is that not right. can someone run down the timeline real quick 9/7/2007 11:53:46 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
it made it pretty clear in Ultimatum that the last scene in the Supremacy where he was in NYC was actually several weeks (or days? i saw it a few weeks ago....) after he left Moscow. So, the Ultimatum picked up at the 2nd-to-last scene of the Supremacy in Moscow. Then maybe 2/3's of the way into Ultimatum, they revisited the last scene of the Supremacy when Bourne got to NYC. 9/8/2007 12:38:36 AM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
the beginning of ultimatum took place after he apologized to the russian girl and before he called Landy in her office
the second half of ultimatum happened after he called her office 9/8/2007 2:59:03 PM |