im pretty sure I like my 3rd rb better than yours, as well as my 4th WR

chris chambers is garbage

8/1/2007 11:43:49 PM

wait...you like Ahman fucking green on the texans! better than Adrian Peterson of the Vikings?

Are you serious?

And chambers had one bad year last year because he didnt have a fucking Quarterback!

8/1/2007 11:45:51 PM

Quote :

"Lowjack All American 9794 Posts user info edit post I think panthro had the better draft 8/1/2007 11:42:41pm"

2-1 so far!

8/1/2007 11:47:20 PM

he has trent fucking green this year

who is probably the slowest player in the nfl and a shitty OL

RESULTS WILL BE BETTER

yes i like green better, he wont be sharing carries, not to mention jackson is 0 factor at QB, at least schaub is decent

8/1/2007 11:47:41 PM

wow a landslide victory

for all i know you could have asked him to post that


going forward any reasoning could be included to people's selections

[Edited on August 1, 2007 at 11:49 PM. Reason : .]

8/1/2007 11:48:12 PM

time for sleep

it was fun

8/1/2007 11:50:24 PM

this is my roster


QB Vince Young
(Ten - QB)
WR Roy Williams
(Det - WR)
WR Marques Colston
(NO - WR)
WR Laveranues Coles
(NYJ - WR)
RB LaDainian Tomlinson
(SD - RB)
RB Willis McGahee
(Bal - RB)
TE Chris Cooley
(Was - TE)
W/T Bernard Berrian
(Chi - WR)
W/R Maurice Jones-Drew
(Jac - RB)
BN Jamal Lewis
(Cle - RB)
BN DeAngelo Williams
(Car - RB)
BN Eli Manning
(NYG - QB)
BN D.J. Hackett
(Sea - WR)
BN Drew Bennett
(StL - WR)
BN Matt Jones
(Jac - WR)
BN Owen Daniels
(Hou - TE)


K Adam Vinatieri



(Dal - DEF)
(Jac - DEF)

Who do you guys think I should drop?


The hilarious part about this is, this is 3rd season in a ROW that I have gotten LT in the draft. God loves me!

8/2/2007 11:35:07 AM

Quote :

"The hilarious part about this is, this is 3rd season in a ROW that I have gotten LT in the draft. God loves me! "

So you've finished dead last in your league 3 years in a row?

8/2/2007 6:37:38 PM

^huh?

8/3/2007 11:03:21 AM

yeah I dunno whats thats all about. I think he means either:

1- the league's draft order is based on the previous year's final standings

or

2- he truly believes that LT is a fantasy dud who does nothing but cause your team to lose

8/3/2007 11:18:37 AM

Well Boobs, I guess the final count in this battle is 2-1, I win?

Is anyone up for a mock draft?

8/3/2007 12:55:15 PM

V0LC0M, why did you pick up Vince Young? That is all.

8/3/2007 1:31:00 PM

8/3/2007 1:57:03 PM

Is there a website that lists (likely) starters by position?

8/4/2007 1:16:56 PM

Doing pre-draft rankings. I'm in a points per catch and points per yard league. General ranking heuristic:

Elite RB
Elite WR
Starter RB
Elite QB
Starter WR (1 and 2)
Elite TE
QB
Elite Def
Platoon RB/RB on crap offenses
TE
K
Other WR
Def

8/4/2007 1:53:34 PM

I am in a Dynasty league.

In the upcoming draft, (that of course is only composed of incoming rookies), I have the first pick in the draft, and the third.
Who should I take? I can sign the picks to four year contracts, so I have to be careful about a player busting and me being stuck with their salary.

I am thinking #1 Calvin Johnson, and #3 Adrian Peterson?
Or maybe #1 Calvin Johnson and #3 Marshawn Lynch?

Thoughts?

8/6/2007 3:58:33 PM

I can think of 3 awesome RB's that have come out of the Pac 10 in the last 3 years, and several good ones as well.

8/6/2007 4:01:29 PM

^^ lynch

8/6/2007 9:51:29 PM

OK, I'm in a keeper league, w/ my keepers being Carson Palmer and Travis Henry. I don't know where I'll draft yet.....All the elite RB's are gone, but virtually all the elite WR's are still there (harrison only one taken I think). Scoring is pretty balanced between RB's and WR's.

Should I go for another RB to bolster Henry or an Elite WR if I can.......

8/7/2007 9:42:38 AM

anybody here?

8/7/2007 4:04:02 PM

Hello All. Sorry I havent responded lately. I am out of by normal routine for a week long conference in Richmond, VA.

I'll get back to my normal routine once I have time, by Sunday at the earliest.

Holla!

- The Guru

8/7/2007 6:07:19 PM

i'm having an argument with my friend about our league format...i say these should be the positions:

QB,RB,RB,WR,WR,T,W/R,K,DEF

he says

QB,RB,RB,WR,T,W/R,K,DEF

he says only 6 skill positions since there are 5 offensive lineman to make 11...i say that doesnt matter cause its fantasy and you should have 2 running backs, two receivers, a utility and a tight end

thoughts?

8/7/2007 6:20:17 PM

Explain to him that no matter what he says about offensive lineman, the need for more than one WR is more important.

8/7/2007 6:26:32 PM

last year i found out after our live draft that we didnt have a TE position but we had a WR/TE position...wouldve been nice to know before I drafted Shockey, Cooley and Whitten! same guy made the league

he just changed this year's settings to add another WR like I suggested

[Edited on August 7, 2007 at 6:33 PM. Reason : yay]

8/7/2007 6:32:14 PM

Alright gurus, which 2 out of 3 do you start.

Jericho Cotchery
Isaac Bruce
Bernard Barrian


I also have drew carter, arnaz battle, craig davis, and peerless price. Davis is a start now that Eric Parker is hurt. Battle is the 2nd san fran wideout if his foot heels. Price is Price (ass), and drew carter Probably wont get on the field without some help.

Yeah, its a lot of WRs

8/7/2007 9:39:30 PM

^and none of them are #1 receivers. Isn't carter the #2 receiver? He'll be there every play


[Edited on August 7, 2007 at 10:05 PM. Reason : sdf]

8/7/2007 10:05:14 PM

Barrian is a #1. Muhammad is old as dirt in the #2 slot. And isn't Keary Colbert the #2 for Carolina? I'm not a panthers fan so I am not positive. But I think Colbert is the #2 and Carter #3. Cotch SHOULD be the #1 in NY. Coles only is because of his history and name.

8/8/2007 9:20:08 AM

I have a feeling that Jarrett will wind up above Carter and Colbert on the depth chart before long

8/8/2007 9:43:06 AM

doing my pre-draft depth charts now...

QB: McNabb, Carson Palmer or Marc Bulger?

RB: Rudi Johnson, Clinton Portis, or Willis McGahee?

WR: Larry Fitz, Roy Will, Lee Evans, or Donald Driver?

TE: Cooley or Franks?


just looking for ranking one above the other, so when draft comes next saturday i can have the order of which i wanna pick guys ready...

8/8/2007 9:45:49 AM

how many people are in your league for you to have that strong of a team?

8/8/2007 9:47:35 AM

^those are his pre draft rankings, i think

^^ Maybe Bulger, Mcnabb, then Palmer

8/8/2007 6:25:15 PM

those are basically 3 of the top 6 fantasy QBs imo (others are Peyton, Brady, Brees)...you cant go too wrong either way...i'd go with Palmer though...who knows about McNabb's health or how many scores SJ will get carrying it for the Rams

8/8/2007 6:27:02 PM

^agreed

8/8/2007 9:56:02 PM

ok, draft order came in

i got number 2

should i go Stephen Jackson? should i even entertain anyone else?

8/11/2007 7:47:39 AM

Yes and no.

8/11/2007 9:39:16 AM

so in picking a backup, and your choices are Favre, Trent Green, and Leftwich, who do you go with?

8/12/2007 9:06:57 AM

Favre.

Easier schedule, more threats at WR (Driver & Jennings) and he defense will put him in a position to where he has to throw to stay in games. Yes, he will get INT's, but he will have more TD's and passing yards than either of the other two.

The Guru is back!

8/12/2007 9:25:07 AM

this is the first year that i've taken the time to put together pre-draft rankings and scenarios before the draft... perhaps because last year i got killed by injuries (clinton portis and shaun alexander) and picking flops (muhsin was pretty awful last season).

8/12/2007 10:08:49 AM

I am in a dynasty league, with the first and third picks in the all-rookie draft. That means I will get Calvin Johnson, and either Marshawn Lynch or Adrian peterson.

But some one just sent me a trade offering Larry Johnson for both first round picks. He he will be a free agent next year in our league. I can sign the rookies to four year deals.

Should I do the trade?

It would definitly give me a high probability of winning it all this year, and alot of my current starters will be FA's next, so a run at the title this year may be in order. My starters would be as follows:

Peyton-QB
Willie Parker-RB
Willis Mcgahee-RB
Larry Johnson-FLex
Colston-WR
Reggie Wayne-Wr
Todd Heap- TE
Jeff Wilkins- K


That is pretty freakin unstoppable, but is it worth the two long-term keeper rookie's?

8/12/2007 4:10:31 PM

So, any revelations from week 1 preseason?

[Edited on August 12, 2007 at 5:54 PM. Reason : deshaun foster is ranked low as hell on yahoo. he might be a steal]

8/12/2007 5:52:22 PM

I really like TE Vernon Davis this year... I think he will get a lot of balls thrown his way as Alex Smith's "security blanket" and playmaker as well.

I like McGahee now that he is the man in the Ravens ground game.

8/12/2007 6:29:41 PM

Vernon Davis is solid, but the jury is still out on him as an NFL Pro. Yes, he ran a 4.3 40, and yes he had a TD in his first game....

but yes, he also broke is leg and he only played ~2 games last year. He has potential, but potential doesnt make a great Fantasy player. He will be good, dont get me wrong, but I wouldnt use a 4-6 rd pick on him.

As far as early revalations...the answer is no, but there are a few things to keep an eye on:

Chris Henry, not LenDale or Brown, took the first team reps in Ten's 1st preseason game. Tenn has a great O-line, and whoever gets the starting gig will be a great sleeper RB.

I absolutely agree that Deshaun is ranked too low. He will likely start the season as the #1 and if things start well for the Panthers, he could easliy keep the job until things take a turn for the worst. It will be a RBBC, but it remains to be seen if the split will be 50:50 or 70:30.

Hasselbeck is also underratted on Yahoo. If he slips to the 7th or 8th rd, you could have a nice starter, especially when many are falling in love with Leinart and Young.

Tatum Bell will be and remain the starter for the Lions in the 07-08 season. High risk considering the team he plays on, but a great #4 and could play his way into a solid #3 back.

8/12/2007 9:07:35 PM

Quote :

"Chris Henry, not LenDale or Brown, took the first team reps in Ten's 1st preseason game. Tenn has a great O-line, and whoever gets the starting gig will be a great sleeper RB"

after all the smack you talked to me about picking chris henry 2 weeks ago

i think you some props, not a lot

but some

8/12/2007 9:20:34 PM

Is Kitna still limited, or will the Mike Martz offense have him explode this year?

Because alot of analysts are taking him as a sleeper QB of the year... but i think his INT's will supercede his TD's...

What does the guru think about Kitna as a backup QB?

8/13/2007 8:08:17 AM

as a backup he will be excellent

his o-line has improved through FA acquisitions and of course johnson will help. he will throw INTs but he will have a better season than last year, I'll guess 28TDs 18INTS

8/13/2007 8:16:00 AM

^ He asked for The Guru, not a Boob.

^^The first big question whn determining the value of a QB is "What is your scoring system?"

Any way you look at it, Kitna will be serviceable, but if your scoring system is set for something like 6 pts for a TD pass/20-25 yards passing per point/-2 for an INT, Kitna could easily be a top 6 QB.

Make sure you arent in some of the crazy leagues like one of mine that deducts points from the QB if he gets sacked or fumbles the ball. Most leagues deduct points if you lose a fumble, but often times you find leagues that deduct points if you lose control of the ball, even if you regain possesion. Things like that will make Kitna's value drop significantly since his O-line will remain average at best.

Also beware of the dreaded 50 passing yards per point. It's a Kitna Killer. 400 yards passing and 3 picks gets you a total of 2 points.

Basically, Kitna is the epitomy of a risk/reward draft choice. He will have games that leave you furious, but if the settings are in favor of the QB, he could also single handedly win weeks for you, so be sure to check the settings. Kitna will have to air it out this year to win, and with the addition of Calvin and a healthy Tatum Bell, their offense could be better than ever. Most Mocks right now have him going in the 5-7 rd range, and only rarely have I seen someone take him as a backup. He's a good starter with the potential to be great, and if he is your backup, you could have some major trade bait on your hands, especially after one of his signature 350 yds passing, 3 TD's 3 INT games.

- The Guru

8/13/2007 10:44:13 AM

what's your take on QB/#1 receiver combos from the same team....ie Manning and Harrison or Palmer and Johnson.....what about QB/#2 receivers? Potential is there, but too many eggs in one basket?

Also, "handcuffing" RB's, what do ya think?

8/13/2007 10:53:56 AM

^^
Completions (0.5)
Passing Yards (50 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (4)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (12 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Receptions (1)
Reception Yards (20 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (5)
Return Yards (20 yards per point)
Return Touchdowns (7)
2-Point Conversions (3)
Fumbles (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (2)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (6)
Point After Attempt Made (1)


So yeah, Kitna pretty much becomes a backup in this sort of role. Vince Young sounds attractive though, with this being a run-dominated sort of league.

8/13/2007 11:18:37 AM

hey panthro:

Quote :

"Chris Henry, not LenDale or Brown, took the first team reps in Ten's 1st preseason game. Tenn has a great O-line, and whoever gets the starting gig will be a great sleeper RB"

after all the smack you talked to me about picking chris henry 2 weeks ago

i think you some props, not a lot

but some


i know my shit too

8/13/2007 6:24:26 PM

My league moved to Defensive players from team defense this year. Scoring for defense is as such:

Tackle Solo (1)
Tackle Assist (.5)
Sack (2)
Interception (2)
Fumble Force (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Pass Defended (1)
Block Kick (3)

12 team league, 3 defensive player slots played.

What rounds should you start looking at D players (8-11?) Any suggestions on top picks?

8/13/2007 8:14:56 PM