How is it nonsense. I like how you resorted to calling me a faggot. That's real mature. The ACC nearly had a team into the Final Four if Roy Williams and the rest of the team hadn't gone catatonic for the final few minutes and overtime. Give Georgetown credit though for one of the best comebacks I've seen in awhile. Had Carolina made it to the Final Four and perhaps even the championship game, would you be singing a different tune. The George Mason and USC arguments are good arguments. One team doesn't make a conference. The ACC was collectively stronger than most of the conferences last year. The SEC seemed pretty tough last year, with many capable teams. Most conferences do well if one team makes it to the Final Four and two make it to the Sweet Sixteen. So the ACC laid a giant egg in the tournament, that still doesn't account for how tough most of the teams were during the regular season. You say that having the most teams ranked in the top 20-40 doesn't make us the best basketball conference but it does make us one of the deepest, which therein lies why most people considered the ACC one of the better conferences last year. To win the regular season in such a conference means that the champ would have a tough road to go through. Most teams in the sweet sixteen and on are the best teams from the best conferences, so it's not surprising when a No. 1 seed doesn't make it to the Final Four. I really don't think that the ACC was the toughest conference last year, but a remark such as the ACC was the weakest is absurd.

6/30/2007 3:43:40 PM

^ agreed

not to mention the fact that the majority of the incoming freshmen who leave for the nba after one or two seasons come to the acc to hone their skills and go on to the pros. While this may not say much about the character of the acc players, it's obvious they come to the acc because they know the competition top to bottom is the best year in and year out. them leaving after one or two years makes it hard for their teams to have any sort of continuity for the next year and to go deep in the tournament. you can't tell me you wouldn't pick the acc to be tops this coming season if the likes of wright, crittendon, young, mcroberts, etc. etc. (from years before) hadn't stuck around. And even losing players of this caliber each year, the acc still puts up a good fight in a given year. Basing you're assessment of them being the weakest conference on one or two years of not dominating in the tourney is tantamount to saying that the sec isn't the best football conference because they had an inordinate amount of losses in a given bowl season. And I seriously doubt you're going to convince an average fan (who isn't blinded by conference loyalties) that the sec isn't the best football conference in the country.

7/1/2007 1:21:04 PM

thought I'd share....

Rivals.com Power Position Rankings for the 2007 Season

SF

1Brandon Rush F Kansas 6-6/210 Kansas City, MO
Inherits top spot with top 8 SFs from last year gone; must recover from ACL tear.

2 Brandon Costner F NC State 6-8/230 Montclair, NJ
Redshirt frosh came up huge for the Wolfpack.

3 Chase Budinger SF Arizona 6-7/190 Encinitas, CA
Shooting faltered down stretch but he could break out next season.

4 Josh Shipp F UCLA 6-5/205 Los Angeles, CA
Steady scorer should be ready to go after arthroscopic hip surgery in April.

5 Kyle Weaver G Wash. State 6-5/185 Beloit, WI
Do-everything type leads talented Cougars.


6 Terrence Williams F Louisville 6-6/220 Seattle, WA
Led Cardinals in scoring, rebounding and assists.

7 Tyler Smith F Tennessee 6-7/210 Pulaski, TN
Surprise NCAA ruling makes him eligible and makes Vols even better.

8 Malik Hairston G Oregon 6-6/200 Detroit, MI
Time is now for former five-star prospect to reach full potential.

9 Robert Vaden F UAB 6-5/200 Indianapolis, IN
Indiana transfer will make big splash in C-USA.

10 Lawrence Hill F Stanford 6-8/205 Glendale, AZ
Led the Cardinal in scoring and rebounding.


PF

1 Tyler Hansbrough F N. Carolina 6-9/235 Poplar Bluff, MO
When coaches throw out "plays hard," this is what they have in mind.

2 D.J. White F Indiana 6-9/230 Tuscaloosa, AL
Mulled the NBA but returns as Hoosiers leading scorer and rebounder.

3 Taj Gibson F Southern Cal 6-9/210 Brooklyn, NY
Huge NCAA Tourney propels him toward breakout soph season.

4 Ryan Anderson PF California 6-9/225 El Dorado Hills, CA
Eight double-doubles as frosh portend big things.

5 Richard Hendrix F Alabama 6-8/265 Athens, AL
Consistent performer is leading returning rebounder in SEC.

6 Jon Brockman F Washington 6-7/245 Snohomish, WA
Works as hard on the glass (16th nationally) as anybody.

7 Ben McCauley F NC State 6-9/235 West Newton, PA
Teams with Brandon Costner to make Wolfpack formidable up front. [

8 Randal Falker F Southern Illinois 6-7/230 St. Louis, MO
Tenacious defender will not let Salukis slide from national picture.

9 Luc Richard Mbah a Moute F UCLA 6-7/215 Yaounde, Cameroon,
The expected leap never came as a soph, but there is time.

10 Charles Rhodes F Miss. State 6-8/235 Jackson, MS
Blue-collar type was coaches pick for All-SEC second team.

7/1/2007 8:03:13 PM

Things that would improve the RBC Center and increase revenue:

- do not install seats on the sidelines and leave out the fold out chairs in the end court seating. this would turn them into riser sections, therefore putting more students on the sidelines and in the end court. this would make it possible to either sell off the student seating in the upper deck as season tickets, or take some of the student seating in the upper portion of the student section that is behind the band, and sell them as part of a season ticket package to alumni that want to stand and be raucous like they had never left the student section. also some of the aisles in the upper deck have seats at the top of them and some don't. why not put in seats in the top of those aisles too. place some kind of seats over the two tunnels that are not used by the two teams. these changes would surely take us over 20k, perhaps even bring us to 21k, and increase revenue, which would easily pay for the any new seats and their installation in the first season and then some.

- place a NC State Basketball Hall Of Fame beside the arena. this would educate our fans and opposing fans on our tradition and be a place of pride for our fans. also it might be a safer place to store the two National Championship trophies then what we currently have.

- place statues of Case, Sloan, and Valvano in the front entrance with plaques at the base telling about them, and their contributions to the State basketball program and basketball in general.

- have Mr. and Ms. Wuf go around and get the old farts out of their chairs.

- sellout often and early.

- most importantly win. selling out will become more commonplace, and students won't complain about getting upper deck tickets. they will be happy just to be there. maybe then we will get the recognition that we deserve for being one of the toughest places to play in college basketball. i always am disturbed that i never see us in any toughest places to play discussions, especially when places like Florida's O'Connell Center aka "The O-Dome" and UNC's Dean Dome are mentioned. we have one of the best student section setups in the nation, one of the loudest arenas, and are continually overlooked nationally. i think Lowe will take us to national prominence and continue to build on the stable foundation that Herb rebuilt for us.

7/8/2007 1:39:16 PM

Quote :

"also it might be a safer place to store the two National Championship trophies then what we currently have."

where are they stored now?

7/8/2007 1:42:10 PM

They are currently located in a glass enclosure along with a bunch of other trophies on the 100-level concourse. It looks like it could be broken into pretty easily. Someone could just hide somewhere in the arena, and once they close it up, go over break into it and walk on out with them. I think some of the other trophies are Southern Conference Championships, some ACC Championships, and some Dixie Classic Tournament Championships. There also might be some trophies from some other tournaments in there.

7/8/2007 1:55:03 PM

Predictions for who wins the conferences, lets hear them.


ACC - UNC
Big East - Louisville
Big Ten - Indiana
Big XII - Kansas
Pac 10 - UCLA
SEC - Tennessee


I don't know enough about the mid-major conferences to comment.

7/8/2007 3:21:20 PM

ACC - ncsu
Big East - ncsu
Big Ten - ncsu
Big XII - ncsu
Pac 10 - herb sendek
SEC - ncsu

7/8/2007 4:01:21 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-pPZnfk3q4&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y1kQwV-c1c

7/10/2007 9:30:06 PM

i <3 youtube

7/10/2007 10:04:45 PM

Quote :

"Predictions for who wins the conferences, lets hear them."

A10 - Xavier
ACC - UNC
Big East - Georgetown (This is a tossup between like 6 teams)
Big Ten - Michigan State (Whom we play)
Big XII - Kansas
CUSA - Memphis in a landslide
Pac 10 - UCLA
SEC - Tennessee
Southern - Davidson (Everyone back from a 29-5 team who we also play)

[Edited on July 11, 2007 at 4:43 PM. Reason : That is about all I know]

7/11/2007 4:42:28 PM

http://newsandrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070711/NEWSREC0105/707110318

Good article on Hickson. Sucks to hear that about his mom, which explains why he lived with his grandmother. As Friedrich Nietzsche said, "That which does not kill us makes us stronger."

7/11/2007 10:57:43 PM

God I wish I could find one of these, but with 44.





and the corresponding link to that old story
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16963410/

Quote :

"“We’re just trying to get us back to where we rightfully should be,” forward Brandon Costner said."

REDUNKULOUS!



Hickson and his grandmother sporting State hats.



Someone should photoshop McCauley saying something funny to Hansbrough.

7/13/2007 12:52:43 AM

Anyone think UConn will bounce back and make it into the top 4 of the Big East next year?

7/19/2007 5:33:42 PM

^honestly, i am just looking forward to all aspects of the upcoming football season and not trying to pay much attention to basketball until it gets here. (trying to make the time pass by quicker)

i can't wait til we play michigan state. it'll be our first big challenge of the year and we'll be able to gauge a little bit better on what to expect come march.

7/19/2007 5:38:36 PM

I work with a guy that played in a pick-up game with all the guys on the basketball team, (including the 4 new recruits) and it seems like Javi is much better than farnold

7/19/2007 6:09:06 PM

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/644698.html

story on Costner and why he didn't make the Pan-Am team (minor knee ligament injury), and also a little bit on the upcoming season.

Quote :

"Before a weight-room workout Thursday, Costner said the high expectations for the 2007-08 season are justified. "I can't wait to get going. None of us can," he said. "I think the sky's going to be the limit for us, I really do." The only nagging offseason question is at point guard, where departed senior Engin Atsur's leadership and ball-handling will have to be replaced. For now, that problem bothers Costner less than it does many of the team's fans. "The new guys are going to help a lot," he said. "I've played with them a lot this summer, and I think they're going make a difference. [Point-guard recruit] Javi Gonzalez is the real thing. He's definitely going to help." Costner says his knee is back to 100 percent and that he's counting the days until his next official practice session. "I wish it would be tomorrow," he said. "

7/21/2007 8:31:41 AM

damn you guys for getting me so pumped in the middle of fuckin july

7/21/2007 8:49:55 AM

Well that means you'll just be that much more pumped when the season is actually here. That couldn't hurt the atmosphere at the RBC Center.

7/21/2007 9:04:51 AM

What are the greatest college basketball games ever played. I submit the 1974 ACC Tournament Final pitting No. 1 North Carolina State vs. No. 5 (No. 4 in another poll) Maryland.

http://home.carolina.rr.com/mcguires/greatest_college_basketball_game.htm

This is what sticks out about that game to me.

Quote :

"Perhaps one statistic sums up the quality of game it was. In 40 minutes of up tempo basketball, there was not one turnover, not one. The only turnovers of the game came in overtime and turned out to be critical. There was such offensive excellence, the losing team shot 62 percent."

If you ever get to watch it on ESPN Classic, you may want to tape it.

7/21/2007 9:37:33 AM

Quote :

"'I wish it would be tomorrow,' he said."

WHEN WE HONGRY


WE EAT

7/21/2007 11:05:25 AM

^that should be a chant for the student section. one student yell, "WHEN WE HONGRY..." and the rest of the students yell "WE EAT!"


Check out state's championships banner. It's $24.99 + $6.00 shipping.
http://www.championshipbanner.com/blank.html
http://www.championshipbanner.com/images/IMG_4269.JPG

7/22/2007 11:31:30 AM

you'd think they would put them chronologically

7/22/2007 2:14:17 PM

The national title that wasn't
http://sectionsix.blogspot.com/2007/07/national-title-that-wasnt.html

Quote :

"Red Brown, the coach at West Virginia, was a good coach and a great guy, but my first choice was North Carolina State. I liked coach Everett Case, and along with Kentucky they were the best thing in the South. I could tell Coach Case knew a lot about basketball and they had a lot of talent in their program. I went there for a couple of visits and they treated me well. He had invited me down there illegally for a tryout my sophomore year in high school. That summer they put me in a basketball camp and got me a job as a lifeguard at pool on the NC State campus, even though I couldn't swim. I was assigned to the wading pool, but mostly I got paid for laying in the sun. It was like Grand Central Station the way they had kids coming in from everywhere in the country. I've never seen anything like it. They put me up in a dorm and I spent my days lying by the pool and spent my nights driving a fancy Olds and wearing the fancy duds they gave me. I was loving it. Like I said, they treated me well. A little too well, maybe. The Atlantic Coast Conference declared 14 of North Carolina State's players ineligible because they were brought in for tryouts as high school students, which was against the rules, and the National Collegiate Athletic Association was starting to investigate the school's recruiting practices as well. The NCAA was looking for even harsher penalties for both the school and individuals, and my name got mentioned. NC State wasn't doing anything other schools weren't doing. They just got caught. But I was one of the ones they brought in for illegal tryouts and I was scared. If I went there now, would I be jeopardizing my career?"

Quote :

"During the three-hour dinner, Scheer posed a question: How would things have turned out if the story had not been written, the NCAA had not intervened and had he remained at North Carolina State? “In my junior year,’’ said Hot Rod, “we would have won a national championship.’’"

Asshole Carolina fans in the media ratting us out. Stingray your cool with me though. I mean I know cheating is bad and everything, but the stuff Case was doing wasn't any worse than what all the other schools did. The 1950s were some of the most corrupt times in college basketball. Frank McGuire was proof of that as well.

[Edited on July 22, 2007 at 7:19 PM. Reason : ]

7/22/2007 7:18:00 PM

Cool photo showing the emotion of the UNC game from last year.

7/22/2007 7:51:34 PM

man i can't wait for school to start

7/22/2007 9:09:29 PM

we're going to score a lot, and dunk a lot...i hope javi and farnold are practicing their alley-oops

7/22/2007 9:12:05 PM

And where was the alley oop invented? Right here at NC State by David Thompson and Monte Towe.

7/22/2007 9:16:19 PM

Quote :

"Javi Gonzalez is the real thing. He's definitely going to help"

~B. Costner

javi haters stfu

7/22/2007 9:28:47 PM

I think the key word there is help. Perhaps he means help out running the point. I'm still not sold on him being the starter right off. I think Degand has the edge b/c he had more time to learn the offense and more experience running it in practice than Johnson and Gonzalez. Personally I hope all three contribute significantly. If we can keep them all fresh, then that means they are less likely to commit errors due to fatigue. A lazy pass here, a mental error due to fatigue there.

7/22/2007 9:40:24 PM

Quote :

"damn you guys for getting me so pumped in the middle of fuckin july"

7/22/2007 10:02:48 PM

Quote :

"Check out state's championships banner. It's $24.99 + $6.00 shipping."

Just bought mine

7/22/2007 11:28:27 PM

Quote :

"you'd think they would put them chronologically"

they're chronologically from most recent

7/22/2007 11:46:12 PM

http://espn.go.com/dickvitale/070725allrollsroyce.html


All-Rolls Royce
By Dick Vitale

ACC Notables

Quote :

" First Team F: Tyler Hansbrough, North Carolina: Hansbrough is simply as tough as they come and he will anchor what could be a tough North Carolina frontcourt next season. SECOND TEAM G: Sean Singletary, Virginia: Singletary is going to have a super season for the Cavaliers this season as they could surprise some teams behind the guard from Philadelphia. FIFTH TEAM F: Brandon Costner, NC State: Costner should have a big season and could be dancing with the Wolfpack! G: Ty Lawson, North Carolina: Lawson will be even more special with a year's experience under his belt."

Also these are notable as we are playing Michigan State

Quote :

" First Team G: Drew Neitzel, Michigan State: This is a special backcourt with Tom Izzo's version of Mr. Clutch in Neitzel. Drew has had a fabulous career in East Lansing and I'm sure he'd love to cap it cutting down the nets at the end of the season. Fourth Team F: Raymar Morgan, Michigan State: He had a good season last year, but Morgan is going to step it up even more for Izzo's squad."

7/25/2007 3:28:37 PM

^^Need to leave room to add patches

7/25/2007 4:29:01 PM

i'll wait and get the championship banner from this coming year

7/25/2007 4:36:19 PM

I ordered the banner that had the two championships on it, but they sent me the one that just has the '83 title on it...if you go to the page they dont even have the I wanted listed anymore the one I got is cool and everything, but its not the one I wanted!

7/29/2007 8:50:41 PM

well that's pretty gay...send them an email

[Edited on July 29, 2007 at 8:54 PM. Reason : btw, how is the quality?]

7/29/2007 8:54:35 PM

JJ and Javi both look disgusting in the videos I have seen of them, Javi is quick as hell and has a lot of style..he definitely won't be boring.

7/29/2007 10:33:12 PM

you got some links to the Javi ones, provided they aren't premium content?

7/30/2007 12:05:01 AM

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=52114&Sport=2

you can see the one on rivals for free

[Edited on July 30, 2007 at 12:33 AM. Reason : .]

7/30/2007 12:33:02 AM

^Thanks. I'm interested to see how he plays against some good guards.

7/30/2007 11:18:01 AM

Rivals.com has put out a top10 list of players already for the 2010 season...look who's on it


C.J. Leslie
6-8, 190, SF, Holly Springs (N.C.)

QUOTE: "He has the size, but what separates him from other big kids his age is his ability to handle the ball." Jordan said. "He is a great athlete. He can jump out of the gym, and people can see his athletic ability." - Holly Springs coach Thurman Jordan on C.J. Leslie

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=910&CID=689083

7/30/2007 11:30:26 AM

Grant is not going to get deported!

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/story/658643.html

8/3/2007 8:39:51 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rvwQnpapIA&mode=related&search=

It doesn't seem to capture the noise too well though.

8/5/2007 9:46:37 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNuFY1PepIA

That first play, where Atsur slips the pass to McCauley from the screen for the open dunk, is just incredible.

One of my favorite plays ever.

8/5/2007 2:09:40 PM

^that idiot hansbrough leaped right past Atsur. Beautiful

[Edited on August 5, 2007 at 2:15 PM. Reason : o[p]

8/5/2007 2:14:48 PM

my friend janis (green) hung out with hansbrough for the 4th...booo...some laughable images though

8/5/2007 11:15:27 PM

^ those wont be amusing until someone photoshops them...

calling on dweedle!

8/6/2007 3:20:00 PM

So "Ballin' at the Old Barn" will be on Friday Oct. 19th at 9:00 pm in Reynolds Coliseum, then the Red and White game will be on Oct. 27th at the RBC Center. More than likely the R&W game will be scheduled to be sometime before the Virginia game so the most Pack fans can come to the game. It'd be nice if they increased the tailgating time for that day so that people couldn't complain about wanting to go to the R&W game, but not have enough tailgating time.


ACC Predictions for regular season

1. UNC
2. State
3. Duke
4. CU
5. GT
6. UMD
7. UVA
8. BC
9. VT
10. FSU
11. UM
12. WF (next year could be tough on Dino and the team due to the loss of Skip so close to the season)

[Edited on August 11, 2007 at 11:04 AM. Reason : ]

8/11/2007 11:04:02 AM