Michigan is a fucking joke...OMG APP STATE IS SO GOOD! more like michigan and the big ten in general are pathetic

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"Why do you have some much hatred for ASU? Just admit that they are better than us and be done with it. You talk shit about all of this and you didn't even know that Edwards was not playing against us. It should have been pretty obvious. Old QB=white (Trey Elder). New QB=black (Armanti Edwards). "

wow last time i checked, NC State BEAT App State, regardless of who was playing...just like almost every other D1-A team has beaten App State except for the shitty Wolverines...did you go to App or do you just suck their balls on the regular?

9/10/2007 10:41:01 AM

No its called being realistic. Appalachian State football>NCSU football right now.

If Beck turns it around then no they can't beat us.

P.S. ASU beat Wake Forest in back to back seasons in 1999 and 2000 and Wake quit playing them. In other words 1-A teams haven't been giving them a chance to beat them. You are the worst troll ever.

9/10/2007 11:48:33 AM

HE JUST P.S.'ED UP ON YOUR ASS TWISTA

9/10/2007 11:50:14 AM

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"In other words 1-A teams haven't been giving them a chance to beat them"

cause theres basically no reason to play them...when you play them, and beat them, everybody says "oh you were supposed to beat them, they're only 1-aa"...if you lose to them like michigan you can never live it down...and App CANT lose...if they beat Michigan, everybody (like you) is on their cock...if they had lost that game and Michigan had made the last FG, App wouldve said "we almost beat Michigan" and that wouldnt affect their chances at going undefeated in 1-aa...the fact is that michigan sucks ass...app is a great 1-aa team...emphasis on 1-aa...i bet you were one of those people who used to say that UNC's 05' bball team or one of the great Duke teams around ~2000 could beat the worst NBA teams too, werent you

in the 01-02 season, when UNC basketball was ranked in the preseason top 25 and then won a total of 8 games...were the EA All Stars worldbeaters? When Hampton beat UNC in basketball, was Hampton the best basketball team in the state?

Fact is...last time NC State played App State, we beat them...none of your dickriding of them will ever change that

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" its called being realistic"

LOL

9/10/2007 2:00:28 PM

Tree, let's be real

ASU & NCSU played today, the line would have NCSU as the underdog

and rightfully so

9/10/2007 2:10:32 PM

the line probably had michigan by 20 in week 1 (even though i dont think 1-a/1-aa games even have lines)

also michigan was like "this 1-aa team aint shit"...state knows they are the best 1-aa team in the nation...we wouldnt take them lightly...and we beat that ass last time we played them

lets be really realistic here...they are a 1-AA/FCS school

and Michigan really really sucks...preseason polls are a complete joke

[Edited on September 10, 2007 at 2:18 PM. Reason : .]

9/10/2007 2:13:31 PM

all i'm sayin is NCSU sucks

I wouldn't feel confident laying $5 on NCSU taking ASU if they played today

9/10/2007 2:18:17 PM

i wouldnt either but i still think we'd win

and yeah we suck...but we've still got some 4 and 5 star players (even though some are injured)...we've still got some good athletes...and mentally we wouldnt take them lightly like michigan

9/10/2007 2:19:50 PM

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"last time NC State played App State, we beat them"

not with their new QB is who is like 17-0 now

they had a pocket passer at the time who we beat up on.

this spread offense they have would easily beat us, their WR is WAYYYY too fast for nearly any secondary to recover on if they get beat.


We would lose

9/10/2007 2:24:45 PM

their old QB was like 20-2...its not like they lost any 1-aa games the last couple years...they just finally beat a shitty 1-a school this year...who oregon COMPLETELY raped

9/10/2007 2:26:15 PM

LSU 48
ASU 13

9/10/2007 2:28:09 PM

The Michigan Wolverines are merely victims of the observer effect.

9/10/2007 2:29:28 PM

^^and that was a moral victory for App because LSU was "only" up 14-0 at the half IIRC..and hey look, it didnt affect their 1-AA record so they can still beat the 10 cupcakes on their schedule and play for a title

Make a bowl game in 1-A if you want national respect

9/10/2007 2:29:36 PM

You say things like make a bowl if you want respect and beat 1-A teams and then you come back and say they can't play 1-A teams because their is nothing to gain. You contradict yourself. You are a terrible troll. If State fans had to honestly say who would win right now, most would say ASU. I mean was Michigan taking them lightly when they were losing at the half? Your arguments have no points to them. They routinely beat Wake Forest, I think 6 times total, before Wake quit playing them.

9/10/2007 3:15:57 PM

how high of a pedestal do you want to put this 1-aa team on? they lost last year to a team coached by CHUCK AMATO

please stop drinking all the app state koolaid

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"You say things like make a bowl if you want respect and beat 1-A teams and then you come back and say they can't play 1-A teams because their is nothing to gain"

yeah? pay the money and move up to 1-A if you want national respect...because currently in 1-AA why would teams want to play them? 1-A teams play 1-AA teams because they're easy wins...App isn't an easy win (although its still usually a win if they're not playing Weak Forest, who btw would run all over App this season)...maybe people don't want to play them because beating them cannot help your season at all since they're 1-AA

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"If State fans had to honestly say who would win right now, most would say ASU."

who gives a shit what fans would say? fans would say michigan would beat app by 50...they play the games to determine who would win them...and as recently as last season, we played a game versus app...and we beat them

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"I mean was Michigan taking them lightly when they were losing at the half?"

no and thats why they outscored App in the 2nd half...also Michigan SUCKS...they just lost by 4 TDs to a nonranked Oregon team...APP STATE DID NOT BEAT A TOP 5 CALIBER TEAM...preseason polls are even more of a joke than your horrible reasoning

9/10/2007 3:24:24 PM

So did Bobby Bowden, in fact he lost several times to Chuck, and is the best coach of all time. As did our Tom O'Brien. What does that prove?

ASU is a good team and what they have done over the last several years is spectacular. I just wish you could admit that and quit hating on them.

9/10/2007 3:27:57 PM

what have they done over the last several years before this season? lost to the only decent teams they've played, thats what they've done

lol @ bobby bowden being the best coach of all time

you're insane

[Edited on September 10, 2007 at 3:29 PM. Reason : .]

9/10/2007 3:28:54 PM

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"how high of a pedestal do you want to put this 1-aa team on? they lost last year to a team coached by CHUCK AMATO"

The key word there is LAST year. This is this year.

9/10/2007 3:29:39 PM

App hasnt beaten a top 50 team this year

you guys must be closet Michigan fans just trying to salvage some pride

App plays 10 1-AA cupcakes every single year...Duke could win 8 of those games a year...beating a severely overrated Michigan team instead of usually losing to your 1-A opponent doesnt change that

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"what they have done over the last several years is spectacular"

beating 1 good team over the last several years is "spectacular"?

9/10/2007 3:31:21 PM

^They have lost 1 game in 3 years. This is getting absurd on your part. You are the only one in here hating on ASU.

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"App plays 10 1-AA cupcakes every single year...Duke could win 8 of those games a year...beating a severely overrated Michigan team instead of usually losing to your 1-A opponent doesnt change that"

So much is wrong with that. First off ASU would beat Duke easily. Yes I said easily. Duke got shut out by fucking Richmond, a 1-AA team that isn't even ranked. How many times do I have to keep proving you wrong?

9/10/2007 3:47:14 PM

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"They have lost 1 game in 3 years."

September 2, 2006 - NC State 23, App State 10
November 5, 2005 - LSU 24, App State 0
October 8, 2005 - Furman 34, App State 31
September 10, 2005 - Kansas 36, App State 8

And thats assuming the first 2 games of the 2007 season are the 3rd year...cause if you're talking about the last 3 full seasons:

November 13, 2004 - Western Carolina 30, App State 27
October 30, 2004 - Chattanooga 59, App State 56
October 16, 2004 - Georgia Southern 54, App State 7
September 25, 2004 - Northwestern State 40, App State 35

I won't count their loss to Wyoming to open that season since it occured before today's calendar date (over 3 calendar years prior to today)

Either way, your "they have lost 1 game in 3 years" claim is about the most ignorant thing I've read all weekend

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"First off ASU would beat Duke easily. Yes I said easily. Duke got shut out by fucking Richmond, a 1-AA team that isn't even ranked."

I agree...hence why I said App beats 10 cupcakes a year, and Duke would beat 8 of them...the point was not to compare App and Duke, it was to show idiots like you how completely weak a 1-AA schedule is, and that therefore nothing that they've done over the last couple years is particularly "spectacular" from the perspective of a 1-A school

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"How many times do I have to keep proving you wrong?"

You've got to prove me wrong at least once to be able to "keep proving" me wrong

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"beating 1 good team over the last several years is "spectacular"?"

9/10/2007 4:09:58 PM

Realistically, way too much emphasis being put on "I-A" and "I-AA"...

The argument that IA teams get better recruits than a IAA team like ASU is wrong IMO. Honestly don't think there is too much difference between medicore IA teams recruiting classes compared to IAA, here the best IAA, recruiting class. Outside of the elite recruits, recruiting is done by what coaches feel like a player has potential to become. Hopefully in a developed (more money, better facilities, usually better coaches, aka IA) players are much more likely to flurish than in IAA programs.

9/10/2007 4:10:25 PM

If im correct I don't think Edwards started at QB for them until game 3? Not positive but don't have time to look it up right now...can someone look that up?

9/10/2007 4:11:36 PM

^^App definitely gets better or just as good of recruits as shitty 1-A schools

But there isn't a single 1-A program that plays as weak of a schedule as App or any other D1-AA schools...even teams like Army, Navy, etc play a lot harder schedules than App or any other D-1AA team

That is the difference...App can rack up wins all year against the teams that most D1-A schools only schedule during Week 1...there is absolutely no comparison as far as SOS

And for the record, I'm proud of what App did...I don't hate App but I do hate the Big Ten with a passion...however I do hate some App fans and I have for a couple years, not just after the Michigan win...they don't recognize their inferior schedules and they think that when they win a 1-AA championship, they are just as good as USC or Texas or somebody...that a 1-AA title automatically means they are the best team in the State...maybe you haven't heard as many annoying App fans bragging about their national championships and how they are the national champs and back to back champs...claiming they are the best team in the state...WHO HAVE THEY BEATEN

And if Michigan had bounced back and beat the hell out of Oregon, I might think a little differently...but for now I have no reason to think Michigan is even a bowl team this year

9/10/2007 4:18:27 PM

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"And if Michigan had bounced back and beat the hell out of Oregon, I might think a little differently...but for now I have no reason to think Michigan is even a bowl team this year "

That I can buy...

9/10/2007 6:54:34 PM

apparently a guy from NC voted App St. at #13, which is why they have so many points.

that man is a fucking idiot.

9/10/2007 7:23:55 PM

Obviously I meant 1 game within their division....like you said those other games don't matter against 1-A since neither team has anything to gain.

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"maybe you haven't heard as many annoying App fans bragging about their national championships and how they are the national champs and back to back champs"

Okay. This is where the problem lies. NCSU wins two back to back championships and you ARE NOT going to talk shit? I know I am. That means that for what they were, 1-AA, they are the best. And there is no taking that away from them. They will win it again this year. 3 years back to back to back. But I guess since those games are all against 1-AA it doesn't mean shit right Tree?

[Edited on September 10, 2007 at 7:57 PM. Reason : The 3 1-A teams that they did play weren't exactly chumps like Duke]

9/10/2007 7:56:36 PM

wow tree twista you have just a tad bit too much time on your hands for all this appalachian state stat finding and hating....geez

9/10/2007 8:39:39 PM

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"dont be mad b/c you were so wrong yeah, the people behind the AP and all those sports writers are reallly dumb i think i would put their sports knowledge a lot higher than, lets say, rwoody"

yea the guys who voted Michigan #5 are fucking geniuses

i didnt know a journalism degree automatically makes you a sports expert

9/10/2007 9:04:08 PM

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"apparently a guy from NC voted App St. at #13, which is why they have so many points. that man is a fucking idiot."

ha

it was dave goren the wxii sports dude

he was falling all over himself trying to defend his ballot tonight

9/10/2007 9:15:48 PM

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"Obviously I meant 1 game within their division"

And you'd still be wrong

- lost to Furman
- Western Carolina
- Chattanooga
- Georgia Southern
- Northwestern State

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"NCSU wins two back to back championships and you ARE NOT going to talk shit?"

NC State could only win back-to-back BCS national championships in which you're damn right I'd talk shit

But App won back-to-back 1-AA championships

That would be like State basketball winning back-to-back NIT titles...good luck talking shit about that when UNC and Duke would just tell you to shut the hell up

9/11/2007 11:33:35 AM

Those losses are from 2004....you should know since you took all that time to look it up.

I don't need to look up my facts, but then again I am not a troll.

They still are the best for what they are.

9/11/2007 12:16:03 PM

and what they are is a D1-AA

what you perceive as me trolling is you failing to admit you're wrong

9/11/2007 9:17:20 PM

They're not 1AA anymore. They're Div 1 FCS.

[Edited on September 11, 2007 at 10:10 PM. Reason : ]

9/11/2007 10:07:30 PM

OK I am wrong, if Duke and ASU switched places ASU would lose every game and Duke would win them all. Thanks for pointing that out even though Duke lost 13-0 to a Richmond team that isn't even a good 1-AA. You are trolling and you do it in lots of threads. Stop hating on ASU.

Duke would finish MAYBE 4th in the Southern behind ASU, Furman, GA Southern and maybe even Wofford on a routine basis.

[Edited on September 11, 2007 at 10:23 PM. Reason : My last post in this thread....pointless]

9/11/2007 10:11:36 PM

why dont you show me where i have ever said that duke is better than app instead of putting words in my mouth over and over and over again

Ctrl + F on this page and get back to me

here i'll do the work

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"YOU: First off ASU would beat Duke easily. Yes I said easily. Duke got shut out by fucking Richmond, a 1-AA team that isn't even ranked." "

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"ME: I agree...hence why I said App beats 10 cupcakes a year, and Duke would beat 8 of them...the point was not to compare App and Duke, it was to show idiots like you how completely weak a 1-AA schedule is, and that therefore nothing that they've done over the last couple years is particularly "spectacular" from the perspective of a 1-A school"

i hope notre dame wears out michigan btw

[Edited on September 11, 2007 at 10:29 PM. Reason : .]

9/11/2007 10:23:22 PM

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" Okay. This is where the problem lies. NCSU wins two back to back championships and you ARE NOT going to talk shit? I know I am. That means that for what they were, 1-AA, they are the best. And there is no taking that away from them. They will win it again this year. 3 years back to back to back. But I guess since those games are all against 1-AA it doesn't mean shit right Tree? "

It doesn't really mean shit. Good for them winning their 1-AA thing, but that accomplishment can't even be compared to winning a conference championship in 1-A. Do you honestly think that if App had to play 10-11 games against 1-A opponents that they would even come out with more than 2 or 3 wins? The Durham Bulls might win their league this year, lets put them up against the Mets and see how they fare. Or better yet, mark your calendar for Nov. 1st when DEFENDING NATIONAL CHAMPION Barton College comes to the RBC center to get their shit handed to them.

App beat Michigan, thats really the only thing you have to back up your feelings that they are more than a great 1-aa team. You can't really call them a good team in the sense of 1-a, because upsets happen all the time(and Michigan has proven to be a shitty team so far). Who cares if they run the table? Don't you think NCSU would run that schedule?

9/11/2007 10:34:52 PM

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"Don't you think NCSU would run that schedule?"

Not opening against Michigan, no.

9/11/2007 10:40:50 PM

the name of the school and their history and prestige isnt gonna win michigan any football games this year...actually playing good football wins games...michigan sucks this year...beck would probably throw for 350 yards on them with only like 2-3 picks

9/11/2007 10:43:23 PM

the game is on espn classic now!!!

9/12/2007 8:17:27 PM

holla

9/22/2007 11:59:53 PM

can this MORONIC thread be locked now

9/23/2007 12:01:52 AM

I figured it would have just died.

It was clearly made on 9/5/2007.

Whether they still deserve to be ranked or not doesn't matter at all.

9/23/2007 12:03:16 AM

lol, HELL to the yes.. according to mathematical logistics, we should be a top 4 team with us beating Wofford, Wofford beating Appy, and Appy beating the way overrated #5 Michigan. Hell yes one more time.

9/23/2007 12:03:46 AM

don't forget that Mich beat #10 Penn St.

so really, ncsu beat TWO top ten teams!!

9/23/2007 8:00:10 AM

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"Quote : "apparently a guy from NC voted App St. at #13, which is why they have so many points. that man is a fucking idiot." ha it was dave goren the wxii sports dude he was falling all over himself trying to defend his ballot tonight"

That's bad, but the fact that Goren also gave NC State a vote in the top 25 AP poll is worse. Further proof that WGHP > WXII ... at least when it comes to sports.

9/23/2007 11:03:22 AM