ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
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Quote : | "i dont think there would have been a scene if the cops wernt involved" |
He was making a scene before the cops got to him. It just got bigger when they started escorting him.
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 3:02 PM. Reason : l]9/18/2007 3:01:30 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Bullshit, asking questions is not a scene when you're at a debate 9/18/2007 3:04:41 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Don't Tase me, bro" |
LOLIDIOT
the cops not your bro you stupid hippie
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 3:06 PM. Reason : .]9/18/2007 3:05:53 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
who cares how stupid he is - you can't just go around tazing stupid people
if that is the case, most of you idiots reading this will soon get your human rights violated just as this kid did
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 3:09 PM. Reason : that's right, you're probably stupid] 9/18/2007 3:09:02 PM |
jataylor All American 6652 Posts user info edit post |
yea he was making a scene, but he was just trying to be funny and kerry was going along with it. no reason for a cop to taser him 9/18/2007 3:09:45 PM |
dhcpme All American 1429 Posts user info edit post |
a kick to the face perhaps 9/18/2007 3:12:16 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I just watched another video of his entire rant. The kid is a cunt.
Tasering may have been a bit much, but its clear that he was just asking stupid questions hoping to back Kerry into a corner. It wasn't political discourse by any means and they had every right to cut his mike and ask him to leave. 9/18/2007 3:13:22 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you can't just go around tazing stupid people" |
nobody just "went around tazing people"...dude got rowdy at an event with PROMINENT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS
its not like he was walking down the street and somebody came up and tazed him
just cause you have the right to bear arms doesnt mean you wont get the shit kicked out of you if you try to bring a gun in a courthouse or something9/18/2007 3:13:58 PM |
FykalJpn All American 17209 Posts user info edit post |
the travesty isn't that some jackass got tasered, or that the cops were on a power-trip, or that nobody did anything--the travesty is how easily the whole goddamn debacle could have not happened...is it not fucking possible to *handle* a situation without a gun a taser or a nightstick 9/18/2007 3:15:01 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
^^^, ^^^^^^
Quote : | ""He apparently asked several questions -- he went on for quite awhile -- then he was asked to stop," university spokesman Steve Orlando said. "He had used his allotted time. His microphone was cut off, then he became upset."" |
The use of the taser and the fact it was during a debate do not depend on each other. The taser came into play later, when it became a case of controlling the kid. You people make it sound like he was asking an honest question about Kerry's foreign policy when the big bad police brigade went all on his ass and tasered him on the spot.
anyway, this is arguing on the internets and therefore retarded, peacekbye
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 3:16 PM. Reason : ^]9/18/2007 3:15:39 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
that was the funniest video i have ever seen, and the cops were totally justified...in fact they used great restraint not to taze him 9/18/2007 3:22:09 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
I was confused over his fiasco... So their intention was to arrest him??? I don't think that was their initial intentions. They probably just wanted to get him out of there because his comments were not appreciated. If they were really going to arrest him for saying some words, then it would have been wrong. But, it's not against your rights if someone forces you to GTFO and you refuse to do so. If you end up being hurt then I say that's your fault for not getting out.
I think both parties deserve a slap on the hand. End of story.
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 3:27 PM. Reason : confused] 9/18/2007 3:24:35 PM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
Before I go outside to mow the grass I just want to say again... fuck that guy. 9/18/2007 3:26:32 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd love to eyefag - then i'll buy your family with the $$ the court awards me, and treat you all like shit.
" |
You'll buy my family? WTF are you talking about? Spoken like a true liberal, the only way to make money, sue for it. Forget hard work, bc you know you arent capable.
This kid was an idiot who didnt listen to the authorities and got what he deserved. I hope he wont get any money from this, but Im sure he will. We seem to reward dumbasses with poor behavior in this country.9/18/2007 3:29:19 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "who cares how stupid he is - you can't just go around tazing stupid people" |
when they are non compliant and resisting arrest you can, in fact he was aggressive with the police many times before he was tased.....they used a lot of restraint9/18/2007 3:29:30 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that was the funniest video i have ever seen, and the cops were totally justified...in fact they used great restraint not to taze him
" |
You're a douchebag cop - nobody expects anything more or better out of you9/18/2007 3:30:40 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
i honestly dont give a shit about this whole incident 9/18/2007 3:32:55 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
id have pepper sprayed his ass, i am a douchebag after all
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 3:34 PM. Reason : .] 9/18/2007 3:33:33 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Well, the audience did applaud when the cops grabbed him. I would hardly call this an issue of asshole cops. 9/18/2007 3:33:51 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
They also screamed when he got tasered b/c I guess they didn't already know cops are nothing but a national gang of douche-bag barbarians 9/18/2007 3:35:08 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
^^People applaud Bush's speeches, too.
I guess that means he's doing a good job.
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 3:35 PM. Reason : .] 9/18/2007 3:35:30 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
there's a lot of retarded going on in this thread 9/18/2007 3:37:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
who cares about this stupid idiot
maybe he'll learn something from this whole experience, like when a bunch of cops are escorting you out of a room you shouldnt fight them 9/18/2007 3:38:39 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "cops are nothing but a national gang of douche-bag barbarians" |
word, you best recognize fool!!9/18/2007 3:40:27 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
^^That will never be me - i'm not scared of cops. if they grab me without a valid reason, and there are cameras around, i'd do the same shit and get a team of lawyers to make me wealthy
^ haha, couldn't do any better with your life huh?
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 3:41 PM. Reason : ] 9/18/2007 3:41:20 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "People applaud Bush's speeches, too.
I guess that means he's doing a good job." |
Thats actually a pretty good strawman coming from a dumb cunt like you.9/18/2007 3:41:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
fighting cops is the best way to get wealthy
Quote : | "i'd do the same shit... to make me wealthy" |
who's putting words in your mouth?
backpeddlebackpeddle
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 3:45 PM. Reason : .]9/18/2007 3:42:12 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
that putting words in peoples' mouths bullshit doesn't work with me treetwista 9/18/2007 3:43:11 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
fighting?
I didn't see any punches thrown, kicks, spitting, pushing, pinching, etc....
well, not from the kid. the cops might have done that before they tased him 9/18/2007 3:43:53 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "haha, couldn't do any better with your life huh?" |
naw man, i got all C's in high school and didnt graduate from college....so i became a cop to make myself feel big.....same reason someone joins the bloods or crips9/18/2007 3:44:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I didn't see any punches thrown, kicks, spitting, pushing, pinching, etc...." |
you missed when he pushed the first 2 cops/security?
well he's got one of his pranks for his comedy website...but people are laughing at him, not with him
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 3:51 PM. Reason : .]9/18/2007 3:49:13 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
This thread has turned into 2 black guys defending the student and 2 white guys defending the cops.
har har 9/18/2007 3:51:22 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
... and then TWW happened 9/18/2007 3:53:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
you can just tell the entire rest of the lecture hall is like "dude just shut the fuck up already, you already asked like 10 questions" 9/18/2007 3:54:09 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Cops are like the big ass spiders in the basement of my house.
They take care of the other vermin that would creep into my daily life.
But that doesn't mean I'm gonna like them when I see them. 9/18/2007 3:54:33 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
no one wants to see the the cow get slaughtered, they just want the fillet mignon
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 3:57 PM. Reason : .] 9/18/2007 3:57:26 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
everybody wan heaven, dem no wan dead 9/18/2007 3:59:25 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
who are the 2 black guys and the 2 white guys? 9/18/2007 4:00:37 PM |
datman All American 4812 Posts user info edit post |
problem here is A: He asked y he was being arrested in the officers never told him his rights or said anything, just said he was resisting arrest.
THIS IS ILLEGAL
the police were totally out of line, he was not a threat, he was not disruptive.
the fact of it is the people in charge of the debate didnt want him around, decided to cut the mic after "allotted time" and then remove him. fine, ask him to leave but if its an open debate, u cannot force him to leave unless he is doing something illegal. he did nothing illegal, show me one instance in the film where he did something illegal before they tried to remove him
then before saying sir come with us or trying to get him to leave, they put their hands on him........his reaction is not resisting arrest.
as soon as the taser came out in the beginning, officers were planning to taser him without a threat being recognized.
the whole process could have been avoided if the police actually performed as trained and followed protocols and the law. i hope he gets a big settlement.
lastly, his responses of, ill go just let me walk out, tell me why your arresting me, dont taser me. this shows he was trying to be compliant and officers were wrong. with hands cuffed and weight from multiple officers on his BACK. the police were in no position to place a taser anywhere near him. 9/18/2007 4:00:50 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
terpball Steady Pimpin' 13913 Posts user info edit post that putting words in peoples' mouths bullshit doesn't work with me treetwista
9/18/2007 3:43:11 PM EMCE M mothafuckin C 42503 Posts user info edit post fighting?
I didn't see any punches thrown, kicks, spitting, pushing, pinching, etc....
well, not from the kid. the cops might have done that before they tased him
9/18/2007 3:43:53 PM Republican18 All American 12985 Posts user info edit post Quote : "haha, couldn't do any better with your life huh?"
naw man, i got all C's in high school and didnt graduate from college....so i became a cop to make myself feel big.....same reason someone joins the bloods or crips
9/18/2007 3:44:14 PM TreeTwista10 Nicholas Pileggi 55815 Posts user info edit post Quote : "I didn't see any punches thrown, kicks, spitting, pushing, pinching, etc...."
you missed when he pushed the first 2 cops/security?
well he's got one of his pranks for his comedy website...but people are laughing at him, not with him
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 3:51 PM. Reason : .]
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BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
AHAHA
Cops are too used to being complied with. They turn on a set of arbitrary lights, and we pull over. They ask us to step out of the car, and we obey. They have large amounts of unearned authority over us, and they get used to it.
So they think they can just walk up to someone and put their hands on them. Like, it's their right to go around touching people just cause they feel like it or believe a law is being broken when, for the most part, these douchebags don't know shit about the law. They prefer to arrest people, then scour their manuals to find a law that's been broken (and there's always some ridiculous, obscure law they can nail us with).
If I was a police officer in this situation, I would have allowed this dude to speak, raise his voice, and be as demonstrative as he wanted to be. So the people at the public forum are annoyed? They can leave if they want. If they let this dude yammer on and on, it's not like the practice would become epidemic...most people aren't that obnoxious. In fact, by reacting to him, they're encouraging the behavior.
That said, if I asked him to be quiet and he touched me in response, I'd taze his ass and drag him downtown by the throat. 9/18/2007 4:01:26 PM |
asdf1234 Veteran 386 Posts user info edit post |
bottom line the kid was asking a question and they stopped him for no reason. Like said above even Kerry was saying to let the kid continue. They just need to go ahead and amend the Bill of Rights because 'freedom of speech' is a bunch of crock 9/18/2007 4:02:03 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "problem here is A: He asked y he was being arrested" |
no because AT THE TIME HE WAS NOT BEING ARRESTED...he was being escorted out of the room
Quote : | "he was trying to be compliant" |
i must have missed him trying to be compliant...the whole flailing his arms around and pushing cops part got in the way of that
Quote : | "the kid was asking a question and they stopped him for no reason" |
they stopped him because he had already asked like 10 questions
maybe one of the presidential candidates should pitch a hissy fit at the next televised debate and bitch and whine to the moderator about how he should get as long as he wants to ask/answer questions
dude thought he was the shit and he got a dose of reality
[Edited on September 18, 2007 at 4:06 PM. Reason : .]9/18/2007 4:03:23 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They just need to go ahead and amend the Bill of Rights because 'freedom of speech' is a bunch of crock" |
It has nothing to do with free speech. The guy wasn't removed because his views were controversial, he was removed because he was being an antagonistic douchebag hoping to back Kerry into a corner. It wasn't political discourse by any means and they had every right to cut his mike and ask him to leave.9/18/2007 4:05:46 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
someone needs to throw in the "he was on his way to church" excuse too. That always carries some weight. 9/18/2007 4:06:57 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "never told him his rights" |
just because you are under arrest does not mean you have to be read your rights9/18/2007 4:09:57 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they had every right to cut his mike and ask him to leave" |
Absolutely. But they held him down and tasered his ass instead.9/18/2007 4:10:25 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
maybe now that kid wont think he is so much better than everyone else 9/18/2007 4:11:34 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
o you know he's glorifying the shit out of this 9/18/2007 4:11:54 PM |