I edited my punctuation to aid your sub-par reading comprehension skills. Sometimes I make mistakes because I have to type fast to keep up with your idiot uneducated responses.

9/26/2007 2:23:51 PM

Why is the 'Y' still capitalized? Also have you learned how to spell "retarded" yet?

Work on getting a fundamental grasp of the English language before you parrot some liberal blogs and try to sound smart to further separate yourself from your country ass parents

And apparently to you there is a HUGE differenc in calling someone "uneducated" and calling someone an "idiot"...I mean you (by crossing out that in your previous post) clearly don't want to name call by using crass and immature words like "idiot." But calling someone uneducated is apparently not name calling and much more polite.

9/26/2007 2:26:17 PM

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"he wants to rebel from his country ass parents so he becomes some eurotrash liberal faggot who likes ahmenijad more than bush"

ahh more use of insults and false conclusions to make up for your lack of reading comprehension skills and debate skills.

HUR:

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"I do not think anyone here is actually advocating or supporting AJ. "

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"differenc"

omg you misspelled difference. therefore your whole post is null and void.

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"And apparently to you there is a HUGE differenc in calling someone "uneducated" and calling someone an "idiot"...I mean you (by crossing out that in your previous post) clearly don't want to name call by using crass and immature words like "idiot." But calling someone uneducated is apparently not name calling and much more polite."

what can you say I am trying to be politically correct unlike when Chaney told the interviewer to "Go Fuck Yourself"



[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 2:30 PM. Reason : l]

9/26/2007 2:28:33 PM

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"Why is the 'Y' still capitalized? Also have you learned how to spell "retarded" yet?"

btw this is another typical "bush"/"republican" tactic. When the goal is trying to take focus off the real issues or problems often something inconsequential is blown out of proportion to distract people.

for example....

Bush and friends want to take focus off the fuck up in Iraq and economic issues. so they concentrate on unimportant shit like

"same sex marriage"
"stem cell research"
"a democrat candidate having an extramarital affair"

9/26/2007 2:35:15 PM

i've never voted and i could give a shit about bush or Cheney (repeatedly misspelling the same words over and over and over again doesn't do you any good for your argument that you're smart)

you pigeonhole all conservatives as being in your list and when I point out how fucking stupid your list is you start to get upset...tough shit, you're the dumbass who made the dumb ass list in the first place...don't stereotype half the country if you don't want to get called out for it, IDIOT

You're the same guy who compared Ahminejad to your coworker down the hall...your whole perception of the world is fucked

9/26/2007 2:38:27 PM

PS:

And I don't give a shit whether you believe this or not--it happens to be well-known to those who have knowledge of the subject. One has but to take Zinn's Philosophy of Adult Education Inventory, which I have taken and you have not, to see this confirmed. For example, if one scores in the "Radical" category, which many leftist academics likely would, the following is the description:

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"This philosophy views adult education as a primary force for achieving social change, or transforming society. A primary theme of RADICAL adult education philosophy is awareness and understanding of the influences of cultural, political, and economic factors on individuals within a society. RADICAL adult education may actually run against the current of American value patterns because it advocates political consciousness and social action, emphasizing knowledge as power and fostering a partnership between teachers and students. Other educational philosophies tend to accept the given societal values and attempt to advance these value structures through education. At its core, RADICAL adult education goes beyond the mainstream American belief in equality of opportunity to support equality of societal conditions and even compensatory measures to address prior injustice. Examples of RADICAL adult education philosophy include opposition to compulsory education, free school models such as the Highlander Folk School, the de-schooling movement associated with Ivan Illich, the critical consciousness or liberation pedagogy of Paulo Freire, feminist theories (especially liberation models), worker education based on the socialist movement, and social justice education. Some of the more extreme environmental awareness efforts (e.g. Greenpeace, Earth First!) may also be representative of RADICAL education philosophy, though most environmental education would be more characteristic of PROGRESSIVE philosophy (i.e. 'We're all living on this planet together; let's make it a better place to live.') In its extreme, RADICAL adult education philosophy may evidence a paradoxical twist. Although this philosophy strongly supports individual freedom and autonomy, some individuals or organizations may be strong advocates of a particular social action (e.g. extreme anti-abortion activists, radical environmentalists, or liberal feminists) as to become dogmatic in pressuring others to accept their point of view [!]--which would be more characteristic of BEHAVIORAL than RADICAL philosophy of adult education."

9/26/2007 2:45:10 PM

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"you pigeonhole all conservatives as being in your list and when I point out how fucking stupid your list is you start to get upset"

apparently you still did not re-read the original comment b.c your conclusion is still false and takes my response out of context.

HUR:

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"I was just wondering how would explain the large imbalance in the number of liberal Conservative"

Imbalance does NOT equal all or most. Imbalance can be as small as 51% and 49%. You are clueless and/or blind if you do not think that more ( >50%) of (insert a group from my list here) is red/conservative/bush-supporter. You would probably argue with me if a said....

I was wondering how to explain the large imbalance of hippies that
-ride their bikes to work
-drive a prius
- smoke drugs
- attend allman brothers shows

than people who consider themselves christians.

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 2:49 PM. Reason : l]

9/26/2007 2:45:58 PM

So its ok for you to stereotype conservatives as dumb rednecks or dumb military or dumb blue collar workers, but when I stereotype AJ as a terrorist leader, oh boy, you'll be having none of that! That is not acceptable!

9/26/2007 2:48:00 PM

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"when I stereotype AJ as a terrorist leader"

I do not ever think i argued this. To get critical though I would say you are wrong. If your comment was autocratic leader of a nation known for civil rights abuses and hostile toward the US; I would then agree.

I gotta get back to work; shouldn't you be going back to your job at Bojangles in Charlotte soon. I look forward to reading your future intelligent comments.

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 2:52 PM. Reason : l]

9/26/2007 2:51:15 PM

you're so opposed to good old boy connections and hooking up your friends with jobs, etc...can't stand those damn good old boys thinking they run everything

hey arent you a TKE? LOLZ, sorry frat brothers, i refuse to take this job, it wouldnt be right

yeah Bonjangles in Charlotte has wi-fi...Bojangles in Matthews has a dirt road for the drive through lane

9/26/2007 2:54:42 PM

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"you're so opposed to good old boy connections and hooking up your friends with jobs, etc...can't stand those damn good old boys thinking they run everything"

You make me laugh. I like how you make up assertions about me to fill the void in your deductive reasoning.

9/26/2007 3:20:32 PM

No made-up assertions whatsoever, I'm strictly going off what you said in the "Iran's President..." thread

Did you already forget your warped perspective in that thread?

9/26/2007 3:36:34 PM

sorry to bring up the matthews thing again.

but, tree, dude, you're 100% incorrect about it, and you know you are but you keep going on and on with it. it's what infuriates people about your posts in SB.

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 4:52 PM. Reason : .]

9/26/2007 4:51:46 PM

you mean

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"not to bring up the matthews thing again"

9/26/2007 4:52:28 PM

well yeah. that's why i edited

9/26/2007 4:53:35 PM

HUR: TreeTwista10 the sky is blue

TreeTwista10: no you retarted idiot according to Faux News it is cyan

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 4:54 PM. Reason : l]

9/26/2007 4:53:44 PM

hur: anybody who doesnt hate america watches fox news and is a slave to bush and chaney
treetwista: stfu you stupid idiot

and jwb, are you acting like matthews is some snobby stuck up place? both of yall are even more retarded than i couldve possibly imagined...i've seen matthews go from a small little hick town to a...larger hick town...jwb you sure you grew up in myers park? that shit is 100x less redneck than Matthews

ps I was in Matthews on Monday...how bout you two?

why dont yall try to convince some of your liberal friends from NYC or California that Matthews isnt a hick town lol good luck with that

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 5:00 PM. Reason : .]

9/26/2007 4:54:27 PM

i dont think i ever said matthews was stuck up....

but matthews isn't a hick town. like HUR said, i'd describe Mint Hill that way. matthews is entirely surrounded by the city of charlotte. matthews is a town in name only. it's fully incorporated into the city of charlotte in everyway. its not a town in the conventional sense of the word by any means. it's just another part of the city of charlotte.

it certainly wouldnt be described like this:

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"matthews is a small town with a bunch of rednecks and some families"

by anyone who isn't just blatantly trying to start an argument

9/26/2007 5:01:39 PM

Charlotte has its share of rednecks...less of them are around center city, more of them are around the outskirts...ie Pineville, Matthews, Mint Hill, Weddington, etc etc...is it some kind of dirt road town with tractors driving around? of course not...is it a redneck town? of course

9/26/2007 5:03:59 PM

lol, now i know you're full of shit. rednecks in weddington....not quite (unless you mean the ones who are there grading land for million dollar homes)

9/26/2007 5:09:57 PM

Boone:

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"Statered-- you're still asserting that the university system is some sort of monolithic liberalizing machine. This is laughable to anyone left of Limbaugh. I'm sorry if an education tends to liberalize people. Maybe you need to consider what liberalism and conservatism is all about, rather than construct make-believe liberal conspiracies. And the federal job thing is worse. You need to show that the average professor has more than a 1 in 10,000 chance of landing a position in the executive office. If I were gunning for a federal position, "professor" wouldn't even be in my to ten career paths. "

That's right I am standing by my assertion. And you certainly haven't even tried of coming up with another explaination as to why Summers was uninvited. The way that instance was handled compared to the Ahmadinejad forum was the whole reason for my post. Did I try to tie both cases into my own personal theory? Yes. Again, the actions contradict each other, and I was trying to come up with a reason why. You don't sound like you disagree with my theory all that much. You agree with me that an education tends to liberalize people. If you think it's because all of a sudden people are more educated and see the liberal light so to speak, I won't try to convince you otherwise. I will say it doesn't do justice to the countless conservatives out there who are as educated or more so than their liberal counterparts, but whatever. I'm just saying, I'm inclined to believe it has something to do with who is teaching the class in the first place. Do I think this is a conspiracy? No. But while professors are there earning paychecks and conducting research, why not recruit some followers along the way?

My primary answer to your question and the one I posted first is this.

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"By allowing Ahmadinejad to speak where conservatives would not, they maintain the appearance (and in many cases rightly so) that they are more open-minded and more apt to have a meaningful and productive discourse than their conservative counterparts. And by taking a hard-line with Ahmadinejad, they don't discredit themselves or their cause (nurturing more liberals) by cozying up to a man everyone knows to be a fanatical despot. "

Let's takeout "or their cause (nurturing more liberals)," since it seems to be something everyone has taken issue with and I don't feel like wasting my time trying to convince the unconvinceable. Is the rest of what I said there so far-fetched?

And you are right. There are countless other avenues through which you are more likely to gain federal employment. That's why I said establishing credibility was one of the more far-fetched reasons for joining academia. But what if a person in academia feels they have exhausted all avenues of research that interest them, and decide they want to serve their country in a policy-making position? Why not use an opportunity such as the Ahmadinejad forum to gain some 'street cred'?

Basically my belief as to why the two speakers were treated differently is: Columbia felt they could gain something from Ahmadinejad speaking, and U of C felt like they didn't stand to gain anything from Summers speaking. That's it. Pure and simple. The rest of my posts have been trying to explain what each stood to gain or not gain by having the respective speakers come and speak. I invite you to come up with your own reason as to why the two cases were treated differently. When you do, please share it with me. And please don't feed me the "there two different universities line." I've heard it, and it's thoroughly unconvincing. I'd be more inclined to believe Summers was sleeping with the wrong person's wife than that.

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 5:23 PM. Reason : wasn't finished]

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 5:29 PM. Reason : didn't address my post to anyone the first time]

9/26/2007 5:16:26 PM

Every post by treetwista10 further proves its stupidity and arrogance

I'll give statered credit for at least putting thought and reason into his arguments.

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 5:44 PM. Reason : l]

9/26/2007 5:38:06 PM

^ Constantly arguing with him over a bunch of nothing doesn't make you look much better.

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 5:45 PM. Reason : No offense, just saying]

9/26/2007 5:45:21 PM

Agreed

9/26/2007 6:54:29 PM

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 6:56 PM. Reason : nevermind]

9/26/2007 6:55:52 PM

What?! My PAEI gets nothing, you danged so-and-sos? (<---One of my new kinder, gentler put-downs.)

PS: And no more rolly eyes--only these:

9/26/2007 8:15:36 PM

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"<---One of my new kinder, gentler put-downs."

What is the point anyway? If this entire section is below your level of cognizance about whatever the topic is, then why do you keep coming back?

9/26/2007 8:24:50 PM

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"know you're full of shit. rednecks in weddington"

did you used to play baseball against the weddington teams and talk to all those rednecks? no of course you didnt

9/26/2007 9:48:16 PM

yeah

i only grew up in weddington. what do i know about the place

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 9:51 PM. Reason : ,]

9/26/2007 9:50:03 PM

you must have been pretty sheltered if you scoff at the idea that there are rednecks in weddington

next thing you'll tell me there are no rednecks in waxhaw

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 9:51 PM. Reason : .]

9/26/2007 9:51:16 PM

goddamn, you must be some kind of sage.

is there anything that you don't feel like you have faultless knowledge of, oh wise one?

9/26/2007 9:57:32 PM

i know even the rich people in UNION COUNTY are mostly rednecks, that seems to be some kind of crazy concept for you to grasp

9/26/2007 9:58:47 PM

oh course you do. you're fucking omniscient!

you're probably omnipotent too, though

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 10:09 PM. Reason : .]

9/26/2007 9:59:30 PM

no i just grew up in charlotte and saw all the little small redneck towns turn into suburbs of charlotte over the years...i have a good idea of where the natives live and where the relocated northerners live...and i dont know many relocated northerners or non rednecks in general who live anywhere in union county where i could say any town in union county isnt comprised of more rednecks than non-rednecks...and matthews is fairly close to union county

hey rock hill is damn near charlotte nowadays, i guess there are no rednecks in rock hill either since its basically charlotte

btw i think the word you were looking for is 'omniscient'

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 10:06 PM. Reason : .]

9/26/2007 10:05:06 PM

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT LEFTISTS IN ACADEMIA

STOP FUCKING ARGUING ABOUT REDNECKS IN AND AROUND THE CHARLOTTE AREA YOU DIPSHITS

9/26/2007 10:09:01 PM

^have you posted a single thing about leftists in academia? didnt think so

9/26/2007 10:11:30 PM

says the guy whose sole purpose on TWW is to derail threads by arguing with tree.

no, no you're just here to get the thread back on topic. how noble of you.


cool status name, btw.

9/26/2007 10:11:39 PM

i'd make a status name dissing chance, but i dont give that much of a shit about him...apparently he cares about me though

btw jwb i made a chit chat thread about "what parts of north carolina are redneck"

9/26/2007 10:12:31 PM

cool. i totally just posted in it

9/26/2007 10:13:29 PM

awesome, hopefully chance will post in it too since its a thread that i made

9/26/2007 10:13:50 PM

oh hell. which parts ain't?

9/26/2007 10:14:07 PM

a small part of charlotte, a small part of raleigh, RTP...not a whole lot else..chapel hill has a redneck section but most of the town is the homo section...oh yeah and durham has black rednecks and people from new jersey

to somehow tie this into the thread...how does academia succeed or not succeed in NC compared to other states due to the state having a higher redneck/conservative population? is Massachussetts more academic than Alabama?

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 10:16 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 10:16 PM. Reason : ,]

9/26/2007 10:15:29 PM

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"says the guy whose sole purpose on TWW is to derail threads by arguing with tree. no, no you're just here to get the thread back on topic. how noble of you. cool status name, btw."

Are you fucking kidding me you little bitch? I haven't posted shit in this section in weeks. Fuckbags like you, that can't get over arguing with the dumbest poster in the section about the dumbest, trite shit, have all but killed this place. Any semblance of scholarly intellect that could be found here is all but gone. If it weren't 3-5 posters that do a decent job of looking past the tripe, it would be dead.

Just think about that shit before you go trying to get snarky again and act like you know what the fuck you are talking about. Bitch.

9/26/2007 10:33:39 PM

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"Fuckbags like you, that can't get over arguing with the dumbest poster in the section about the dumbest, trite shit, have all but killed this place"

Says the fuckbag that can't get over arguing with me about the dumbest shit

Always showing off your hypocrisy like you're proud of it or something

9/26/2007 10:34:44 PM

Not in the past few weeks, most likely never again. You, however, we still be posting "bald, laughed out of europe, steroid rage" and a host of other shit that never did or ever will rile me, long after dementia has erased the last vestiges of the name my #1 bitchTreeTwista10 from my memory.

9/26/2007 10:39:29 PM

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"most likely never again"

willpower certainly hasn't been your strong suit in the past...i highly doubt you could keep yourself away from this place since you have a 100% failure rate at attempting to

but i am glad none of my bald roid jokes get to you...if they did get to you, you'd probably do something to indicate it...like pay me homage in your status name

9/26/2007 10:40:50 PM

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"Are you fucking kidding me you little bitch? I haven't posted shit in this section in weeks. Fuckbags like you, that can't get over arguing with the dumbest poster in the section about the dumbest, trite shit, have all but killed this place. Any semblance of scholarly intellect that could be found here is all but gone. If it weren't 3-5 posters that do a decent job of looking past the tripe, it would be dead. Just think about that shit before you go trying to get snarky again and act like you know what the fuck you are talking about. Bitch."

hypocrisy at its finest

9/26/2007 10:48:18 PM

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"What is the point anyway? If this entire section is below your level of cognizance about whatever the topic is, then why do you keep coming back?"

Chance

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"edit post oh course you do. you're fucking omniscient! you're probably omnipotent too, though"

jwb9984

No, TreeTwista10's not "omniscient" or "omnipotent."



But this guy is--evidently--he sure keeps owning the Democrats in Congress.

Democrats Lose Another Iraq Vote
Senate Blocks Bill To Cut Off Money For Iraq Combat By June

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/20/politics/main3282338.shtml





[Edited on September 26, 2007 at 11:08 PM. Reason : .]

9/26/2007 10:48:52 PM

I won this thread!

9/26/2007 10:54:31 PM

keep posting in it to show how much you don't care about it

9/26/2007 10:56:26 PM