nah, i'm gonna hate the players too

11/19/2007 2:56:11 PM

I wouldnt hate the players if they didnt spike the ball like they just won a fucking super bowl after scoring a touchdown to put them up 42-10

11/19/2007 2:59:26 PM

^^ ok hate the players, but not for playing in the 4th quarter. like it was their choice

11/19/2007 4:04:31 PM

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"I wouldnt hate the players if they didnt spike the ball like they just won a fucking super bowl after scoring a touchdown to put them up 42-10 "

I hate the players who spike the ball after they score and they are still down by 30/40 points or more.


III

11/20/2007 2:41:32 PM

Fuck you haters

best quarterback in the last decade

12/4/2007 9:20:13 AM

yeah....he won last night thanks to "great" timeout calling skills and a bunch of flag happy refs.....he didn't win that game....Baltimore lost it

12/4/2007 9:53:19 AM

Suck on these, Brady

12/4/2007 9:54:49 AM

???? Brady will have that 4th one to match Joe this year... even the most ardent Montana fans out here on Sports Talk radio in the Bay Area are willing to admit that Brady needs to be in the conversation as one of the best ever right with Joe... if he wins his 4th ring this year.

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 11:23 AM. Reason : x]

12/4/2007 11:23:13 AM

Brady is a beast, I just don't like him, and he doesn't have his 4th ring yet

12/4/2007 11:35:49 AM

they aren't going to win the SB if they don't sure up that run D.....McGahee ran all over them yesterday.

I hope they go 18-0 and lose in the SB....or 16-0 and lose in the second round of the playoffs.

12/4/2007 11:41:40 AM

They will not win the SB if they keep playing like this. Playing real teams in the playoffs will be a brick wall.

12/4/2007 12:12:11 PM

i wouldnt count them out just yet

but their recent games versus the Eagles and Ravens certainly make them seem a lot more human than they have throughout the first 10 weeks

12/4/2007 12:13:43 PM

i know everybody likes to get on their knees and fellate QBs, but its the coaching.

this shit is chess not checkers.

the system and the team wins games. yes you need a decent QB to have win games, but the system trumps individual QBs.

that said, i still think Manning is better than Brady.

12/4/2007 12:19:46 PM

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"this shit is chess not checkers."

Not according to Larry Johnson:

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""Football is easy," he said. "It's not a chess game. It's checkers"

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/2007-09-24-598052465_x.htm

12/4/2007 12:27:48 PM

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"yes you need a decent QB to have win games, but the system trumps individual QBs."

so its mere coincidence that the best teams in the NFL also have the best QB play in the NFL? Is it Brady and Manning and Favre and Romo who are winning games, or is it their coaches? I don't see Belichek out there making tackles or drawing bullshit DPI penalties

12/4/2007 12:46:10 PM

^Eh by the same means Carson Palmer's team is terrible and he is still a top QB

12/4/2007 12:57:58 PM

yeah but he's about the only exception this season...cincy's horrible defense and injuries to their running game have hindered them as a team...and yeah teams like New England and Green Bay have good defenses...but still, the best teams in the NFL have the best QBs...Drew Brees is another exception but just look at Brady, Manning, Romo and Favre...great QBs, on the top 2 teams in each conference

12/4/2007 1:09:23 PM

This guy laughs at Brady's three rings.

12/4/2007 2:58:58 PM

rings don't make a qb, unless you mean to tell me that dan marino & jim kelly are worse than trent dilfer & doug williams

12/4/2007 3:02:11 PM

Yeah I realize that, he's just the example I use when people use brady's championships to say he's the greatest.

But now that brady is finally getting great stats, suddenly they do matter.

12/4/2007 3:12:09 PM

^ i wasn't replying to your pic in particular, just stating something that seems to rarely be brought up in the discussion of great qbs

12/4/2007 3:22:03 PM

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"so its mere coincidence that the best teams in the NFL also have the best QB play in the NFL? "

it is great teams that make a good/above average QB play like a great QB

12/4/2007 3:36:04 PM

^I would call Brady, Manning, Favre and Romo great QBs

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"rings don't make a qb"

certainly not because its a team sport...but when your team is really good (ie Pats, Colts) its a much fairer comparison...Marino to Dilfer isn't a fair comparison...Manning to Brady is a fair comparison

12/4/2007 4:00:36 PM

^ that i am willing to concede to you

12/4/2007 4:10:52 PM

if marino would've had a randy moss, t.o, marvin harrison, or reggie wayne, he'd have a fist full of SB rings.

12/4/2007 4:20:42 PM

i dunno...those WRs would've been pretty young back when Marino was playing

12/4/2007 4:27:25 PM

^^ or if he had ever had a halfway serviceable running back

[Edited on December 4, 2007 at 4:28 PM. Reason : added a ^]

12/4/2007 4:27:59 PM

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"if marino would've had a randy moss, t.o, marvin harrison, or reggie wayne, he'd have a fist full of SB rings."

LOL, you must've never heard of Mark Clayton and Mark "Super" Duper.

8 Pro-bowls between those 2 guys. Damn youngsters don't know your football history.

12/4/2007 4:32:35 PM

actually I have, but he made them what they were. Put them on virtually any other team, and they're average at best. They had the fortune of playing virtually every season with Marino.....not to mention he never had a consistent running game either.

12/4/2007 4:50:05 PM

The defense and running game held those Dolphins teams back. End of story.

12/4/2007 4:56:54 PM

Dead horse, consider thyself beaten:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=3147842&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

btw, this says it's an insider article, but it's in a free preview stage right now, so I don't know how long it will last.

12/12/2007 4:58:35 PM

ha, Carr at 2nd to last.

Interesting fact, at this point in Manning's record setting season, he had more TD's than Brady does right now.

[Edited on December 12, 2007 at 5:08 PM. Reason : ]

12/12/2007 5:02:23 PM

bwhah, rivers only a spot ahead of the crybaby

12/12/2007 6:46:04 PM

^^ true, but Dungy isnt a fucking bitch like Belicheat so Brady will definitely get it

12/12/2007 6:47:57 PM

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"sure up"

12/12/2007 6:52:13 PM