why didn't the refs help us!?!

ahahahahaha

12/20/2007 11:26:43 PM

yes. that is exactly what i wrote. how did you get so smart?

12/20/2007 11:31:04 PM

Duke shot 40 something percent free throws so the refs couldn't have helped them anymore. Coach K was out-coached tonight as well.

12/20/2007 11:39:27 PM

in the 2nd half and OT

12/20/2007 11:49:49 PM

girls talking about sports = does not compute.

12/21/2007 12:00:43 AM

yes, girls cannot talk about sports. you are SO right. must have slipped my mind.

12/21/2007 12:06:30 AM

it's alright.

just don't let it happen again.

12/21/2007 12:13:10 AM

Atlantic Coast
Clemson (9-0)
Duke (10-1)
Miami (11-0)
North Carolina (10-0)

Big East
Georgetown (8-0)
Pittsburgh (11-0)

Big 12
Kansas (11-0)
Texas (11-0)

Conference USA
Memphis (9-0)

Pacific-10
Washington State (10-0)

Southeastern
Mississippi (9-0)
Vanderbilt (10-0)

Southland
Sam Houston State (10-0)

***12 teams remaining***

CONFERENCE NUMBERS - ranked by percentage of teams unbeaten:

1. ACC: 3/12 remaining - 25%
2. Big 12: 2/12 remaining - 16.7%
2. SEC - 2/12 remaining- 16.7%
4. Big East 2/16 remaining - 12.5%
5. Pac-10 1/10 remaining - 10%
6. Southland - 1/12 remaining- 8.3%
6. Conference USA - 1/12 remaining - 8.3%


Upcoming Games thru 1/1:
(Games to watch)

12/21: Clemson vs. DePaul
12/21: Mississippi @ La Salle
12/22: Clemson @ Mississippi
12/22: Georgetown @ Memphis
12/22: Texas @ Michigan State
12/22: UNC vs. UC Santa Barbara
12/22: Kansas vs. Miami (OH)
12/22: Vanderbilt vs. Tennessee State
12/23: Washington State @ Idaho State
12/23: Miami vs. NC A&T
12/27: UNC vs. Nevada
12/28: Washington St vs. NC A&T
12/28: Mississippi vs. Southern Miss
12/28: Sam Houston St. @ San Diego St.
12/29: Memphis vs. Arizona
12/29: Miami vs. Winthrop
12/29: Clemson vs. Samford
12/29: Kansas vs. Yale
12/29: Texas vs. Wisconsin
12/29: Pittsburgh vs. Dayton
12/29: Georgetown vs. American Univ.
12/29: Vanderbilt vs. Tennessee-Martin
12/30: UNC vs. Valparaiso
12/30: Sam Houston St. @ Loyola-Marymount
12/31: Georgetown vs. Fordham
12/31: Vanderbilt vs. Iona
1/1: Clemson vs. Alabama

12/21/2007 11:19:03 AM

Quote :

"yes, girls cannot talk about sports. you are SO right. must have slipped my mind."

Chicks can talk sports... If I'm an ass to you it's not because you're a girl, it's because I hate Duke more than anything else in this world... Though 2 of my favorite sports moments of all time came at their expense.

Let me recap:





**** By the way, looking for these pictures reminded me how funny sports can be... Who would have ever thought in million years that Jake Voskuhl would carve out a better NBA career than William Avery or Jason Williams... crazy.

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 11:31 AM. Reason : x]

12/21/2007 11:28:18 AM

Quote :

"not saying the refs were calling against duke. but they weren't exactly helping them out either."

So basically, you're saying they called it evenly.

And you're complaining about this.

12/21/2007 11:36:27 AM

no i wasn't complaining! i was making the point that they WEREN'T helping duke as people were saying. but if you watched the game or have a brain you'd know. people can hate duke and talk about the calling. but point out a play to me. just don't say the most stereotypical thing ever and not back it up. did you not like the singler charge? i mean there are only one or two plays in the game i can think of that people would sit there and whine about being unfair. i don't care what you say as long as you say something besides "oh duke had it all called their way." anyone can say that and everyone does say that. give me something else.

that quote wasn't meant to seem complaining about the refs not helping them or whatever. the point was to say it was called tight on both sides. everyone that posted before me was saying that the refs gave them the game and that they still lost. that is all i was disagreeing with. i wasn't complaining that they should have been given the game or something and it wasn't meant to come across like that. that seems apparent to me but, i guess it wasn't so whooopsy. but like i said. don't just whine that the refs gave duke the game.

and in reference to uconn above: gross. uconn is (for obvious reasons) one of my top three hated teams. also, i don't care if people are an ass to me. plenty of people like duke. trust me. men old enough to be my father have wanted to murder me; however, see above. if you are going to say something, say something. don't say the one thing everyone says. prove you actually watched the game and know what you're talking about

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 1:29 PM. Reason : d]

12/21/2007 1:23:26 PM

Quote :

"uconn is (for obvious reasons) one of my top three hated teams."

They would be to me too if I was a Duke fan. I mean what other team consistently owns Duke in head to head matchups in HUGE games?

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 1:39 PM. Reason : i can't type or think]

12/21/2007 1:39:18 PM

wanna know the other ones i thought of? unc. maryland. uconn. ew ew and barf

and not that anyone cares about women's bball, but the duke women did have this one amazing victory over the female (questionable) huskies

although i'm sure no one even knows what game i am talking about

12/21/2007 1:48:10 PM

I've always wondered how it works being a fan of one of your alma mater's biggest rivals... that is just odd...

^ Didn't Duke hit a 3 at the buzzer to win? I don't really care about womens bball (it bores me-- though oddly enough a girl was guarding me at the gym the other day and she was the first person in forever that was quick enough to stop me...) but I think I remember that...

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 2:02 PM. Reason : x]

12/21/2007 2:01:39 PM

you guys see clemson falling flat on their face again this year?

12/21/2007 2:21:19 PM

^ oh yeh, i have no doubt

12/21/2007 2:24:22 PM

^^if they can manage to not drop any bad games until they get Mays back I think they'll be alright

12/21/2007 2:28:08 PM

If they get past Mississippi without Mays, then I will be impressed.

And in other undefeated news....Miami is really setting itself up for a very Clemson-like fall. They have played several close games against marginal opponents, and don't play a ranked team until January 23rd .

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 2:41 PM. Reason : .]

12/21/2007 2:37:10 PM

Quote :

"If they get past Mississippi without Mays, then I will be impressed."

I said the same thing about them getting past UGA last year (not regarding injuries, but still), they won that one easily, and then still tanked later.

I just don't trust Clemson.

12/21/2007 3:20:19 PM

we wont go 17-0 again, but thats fine with me. i think we'll start to lose a few here and there, but ultimately land a #6/#7 seed in the tourney

but who knows...

12/21/2007 3:24:52 PM

crushed Depaul today 90-74...Clemson now 10-0

12/21/2007 6:14:20 PM

I still don't understand the concept of cheering for one of your school's biggest rival. I also don't understand of the concept of being a fan of school that you don't go to. Maybe that's just me.

12/22/2007 12:20:29 AM

oh, and the chanting when the opposing player laying on the floor screaming in pain. Stay classy dook fans.

12/22/2007 12:33:12 AM

^^yep...just u

12/22/2007 12:37:07 AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/grant_wahl/12/19/golden.souffle/index.html


oh and there's a great matchup at noon of #4 Georgetown and #2 Memphis

[Edited on December 22, 2007 at 9:49 AM. Reason : .]

12/22/2007 9:48:23 AM

strike Tejas from the list

12/22/2007 8:46:18 PM

and clemson

12/22/2007 8:51:11 PM

Atlantic Coast
Clemson (9-0)
Miami (11-0)
North Carolina (11-0)

Big East
Georgetown (8-0)
Pittsburgh (11-0)

Big 12
Kansas (12-0)
Texas (11-0)

Conference USA
Memphis (10-0)

Pacific-10
Washington State (10-0)

Southeastern
Mississippi (11-0)
Vanderbilt (11-0)

Southland
Sam Houston State (10-0)

***9 teams remaining***

CONFERENCE NUMBERS - ranked by percentage of teams unbeaten:

1. ACC: 2/12 remaining - 16.7%
1. SEC - 2/12 remaining- 16.7%
3. Big East 1/16 remaining - 12.5%
4. Pac-10 1/10 remaining - 10%
5. Big 12: 1/12 remaining - 8.3%
5. Southland - 1/12 remaining- 8.3%
5. Conference USA - 1/12 remaining - 8.3%


Upcoming Games thru 1/1:
(Games to watch)

12/23: Washington State @ Idaho State
12/23: Miami vs. NC A&T
12/27: UNC vs. Nevada
12/28: Washington St vs. NC A&T
12/28: Mississippi vs. Southern Miss
12/28: Sam Houston St. @ San Diego St.
12/29: Memphis vs. Arizona
12/29: Miami vs. Winthrop
12/29: Kansas vs. Yale
12/29: Pittsburgh vs. Dayton
12/29: Vanderbilt vs. Tennessee-Martin
12/30: UNC vs. Valparaiso
12/30: Sam Houston St. @ Loyola-Marymount
12/31: Vanderbilt vs. Iona

[Edited on December 23, 2007 at 2:24 AM. Reason : 9]

12/23/2007 2:24:09 AM

Quote :

"3. Big East 1/16 remaining - 12.5% 6.25%"

12/23/2007 10:17:49 AM

oh yeah my bad.

Atlantic Coast
Miami (11-0)
North Carolina (11-0)

Big East
Pittsburgh (11-0)

Big 12
Kansas (12-0)

Conference USA
Memphis (10-0)

Pacific-10
Washington State (10-0)

Southeastern
Mississippi (11-0)
Vanderbilt (11-0)

Southland
Sam Houston State (10-0)

***9 teams remaining***

CONFERENCE NUMBERS - ranked by percentage of teams unbeaten:

1. ACC: 2/12 remaining - 16.7%
1. SEC - 2/12 remaining- 16.7%
3. Pac-10 1/10 remaining - 10%
4. Big 12: 1/12 remaining - 8.3%
4. Southland - 1/12 remaining- 8.3%
4. Conference USA - 1/12 remaining - 8.3%
7. Big East 1/16 remaining - 6.25%

Upcoming Games thru 1/1:
(Games to watch)

12/23: Washington State @ Idaho State
12/23: Miami vs. NC A&T
12/27: UNC vs. Nevada
12/28: Washington St vs. NC A&T
12/28: Mississippi vs. Southern Miss
12/28: Sam Houston St. @ San Diego St.
12/29: Memphis vs. Arizona
12/29: Miami vs. Winthrop
12/29: Kansas vs. Yale
12/29: Pittsburgh vs. Dayton
12/29: Vanderbilt vs. Tennessee-Martin
12/30: UNC vs. Valparaiso
12/30: Sam Houston St. @ Loyola-Marymount
12/31: Vanderbilt vs. Iona


[Edited on December 23, 2007 at 2:22 PM. Reason : .]

12/23/2007 2:20:33 PM

Sam Houston State


Miami is down against Winthrop

12/29/2007 5:30:11 PM

Take UNC off this list on Jan 12

12/29/2007 5:31:50 PM

^ lolololol

12/29/2007 5:36:50 PM

Miami

12/29/2007 6:11:37 PM

Sam Houston State
Miami
Pittsburgh


and Memphis is losing really early

12/29/2007 10:23:18 PM

Atlantic Coast
Miami (12-1)
North Carolina (12-0)

Big East
Pittsburgh (11-1)

Big 12
Kansas (13-0)

Conference USA
Memphis (11-0)

Pacific-10
Washington State (12-0)

Southeastern
Mississippi (12-0)
Vanderbilt (12-0)

Southland
Sam Houston State (10-1)

***6 teams remaining***

CONFERENCE NUMBERS - ranked by percentage of teams unbeaten:

1. SEC - 2/12 remaining- 16.7%
2. Pac-10 1/10 remaining - 10%
3. ACC: 1/12 remaining - 8.3%
3. Big 12: 1/12 remaining - 8.3%
3. Conference USA - 1/12 remaining - 8.3%

Upcoming Games thru 1/10:
(Games to watch)

12/30: UNC vs. Valparaiso
12/31: Vanderbilt vs. Iona
1/2: UNC vs. Kent St. (they might not look like much, but Kent St. is 10-2 and beat George Mason by 18)
1/2: Mississippi vs. Alabama A&M
1/3: Memphis vs. Siena
1/3: Vanderbilt vs. Rice
1/5: Memphis vs. Pepperdine
1/5: Kansas @ Boston College
1/5: Washington St. @ Washington
1/5: Vanderbilt vs. Massachusetts
1/6: UNC @ Clemson
1/8: Kansas vs. Loyola (Md.)
1/9: Memphis vs. ECU
1/9: UNC vs. UNC-Asheville
1/9: Vanderbilt vs. South Carolina
1/9: Mississippi @ Tennessee
1/10: Washington St. @ USC

12/30/2007 2:54:32 PM

***5 teams remaining***

Atlantic Coast
#1 North Carolina (16-0)

Big 12
#3 Kansas (15-0)

Conference USA
#2 Memphis (14-0)

Pacific-10
#4 Washington State (13-0)

Southeastern
Mississippi (13-1)
#13 Vanderbilt (16-0)

***5 teams remaining***

Conference percentages are now a moot point.


Upcoming Games thru 1/31:
(Games to watch)

1/10 Washington State @ USC
1/12: NC State @ UNC
1/12 Washington State @ UCLA
1/12 Kansas @ Nebraska
1/12 Memphis @ Marshall
1/12 Vanderbilt @ Kentucky
1/14 Oklahoma @ Kansas
1/16: UNC @ Georgia Tech
1/16 Memphis@ Rice
1/17 Oregon State @ Washington State
1/17 Vanderbilt @ Tennessee
1/19: Maryland @ UNC
1/19 Kansas at Missouri
1/19 Southern Miss @ Memphis
1/19 LSU @ Vanderbilt
1/20 Oregon @ Washington State
1/23: UNC @ Miami
1/23 Iowa State @ Kansas
1/23 Memphis @ Tulsa
1/24 Washington State @ Arizona
1/26 Nebraska @ Kansas
1/26 Gonzaga @ Memphis
1/26 Washington State @ Arizona State
1/27 Vanderbilt @ Florida
1/30 Kansas @ Kansas State
1/30 Memphis @ Houston
1/30 Vanderbilt @ Mississippi
1/31: Boston College @ UNC
1/31 California @ Washington State

1/10/2008 2:55:36 AM

if lowe doesn't work out, we can get kennedy

1/10/2008 3:24:18 AM

down goes Vandy, and possibly WSU too.

1/12/2008 4:18:33 PM

#13 Vanderbilt
#4 Washington State

[Edited on January 12, 2008 at 5:00 PM. Reason : kansas and memphis play tonight, then an update.]

1/12/2008 4:59:19 PM

***3 teams remaining***

Atlantic Coast
#1 North Carolina (16-0)

Big 12
#3 Kansas (15-0)

Conference USA
#2 Memphis (14-0)

Pacific-10
#4 Washington State (13-0)

Southeastern
Mississippi (13-1)
#13 Vanderbilt (16-0)

***3 teams remaining***

Conference percentages are now a moot point.


Upcoming Games thru 1/31:
(Games to watch)

1/14 Oklahoma @ Kansas
1/16: UNC @ Georgia Tech
1/16 Memphis @ Rice
1/19: Maryland @ UNC
1/19 Kansas at Missouri
1/19 Southern Miss @ Memphis
1/23: UNC @ Miami
1/23 Iowa State @ Kansas
1/23 Memphis @ Tulsa
1/26 Nebraska @ Kansas
1/26 Gonzaga @ Memphis
1/30 Kansas @ Kansas State
1/30 Memphis @ Houston
1/31: Boston College @ UNC

1/13/2008 12:57:17 AM

Does anybody else have a problem with Carolina's #1 ranking? This was brought to my attention with comments from other places on people saying, "well that's what a #1 team will do to you, expose your weaknesses."

It's not that I'm bitter about losing today, we suck no matter who we play. I just think Kansas, for one, would easily beat UNC on a neutral court. Plus, look at all the near-misses they've had so far...

1/13/2008 1:20:18 AM

stop yer bitchin

1/13/2008 1:24:20 AM

ok.

1/13/2008 1:24:56 AM

that's why we have the tournament.

1/13/2008 5:02:59 PM

the most unfortunate thing about UNC being #1 (or a #1 seed really) is that in the tourny they'd get the first two games at the RBC center (basically a home game that close in ncaa tourny), followed by 2 games at greensboro (essentially a home game). that puts them in the final 4 without going beyond a ~1 hr bus ride either location. thats just plain unfair.

1/13/2008 5:29:31 PM

exactly, its ridiculous

1/13/2008 6:09:16 PM

Quote :

"Plus, look at all the near-misses they've had so far..."

1. Clemson
2. ?

1/13/2008 10:47:08 PM

Davidson, BYU (one of the sole reasons BYU is ranked?), Ohio State had them for most of that game, etc etc.

1/13/2008 10:48:37 PM

Quote :

"the most unfortunate thing about UNC being #1 (or a #1 seed really) is that in the tourny they'd get the first two games at the RBC center (basically a home game that close in ncaa tourny), followed by 2 games at greensboro (essentially a home game). that puts them in the final 4 without going beyond a ~1 hr bus ride either location. thats just plain unfair. "

Like LSU football this year. LOTS OF ROAD GAMES

1/13/2008 10:49:28 PM