I'd take kansas, mizzou, oklahoma, and oregon if dickson hadnt gotten hurt

11/23/2007 7:18:45 PM

I could name 20-30 teams that couldnt potentially beat LSU any given day, but that doesnt make them the better team... Arkansas just beat them, going by your logic that makes them "better"... which is just retarded



Kansas?? HAHHAHA, if you didnt know their record and watched Kansas play a game and then watched LSU play a game would never pick Kansas over them, you just picked them because of their record... hell, might as well say Hawaii is better

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 7:21 PM. Reason : d]

11/23/2007 7:18:59 PM

I didnt say Arkansas is a better team, I agree most days LSU wins this game, but overall this season LSU has not looked like a #1 team, although I guess that can be said about a lot of teams.

11/23/2007 7:21:02 PM

Actually I have seen Kansas play several times this year and they continue to look good and play smart. LSU has better talent, but they do stupid shit and a lot of times it looks like they arent playing with a lot of heart.

11/23/2007 7:22:54 PM

they were better today - and that's all that matters

it does matter - because their shot at a NC is out. so what best talent / bad day whatever - it's all about your resume


therefore - there are other "better" teams qualified at the moment to play for the championship

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 7:23 PM. Reason : wait, wat]

11/23/2007 7:22:57 PM

its crazy how people are putting kansas on the same level as these one loss teams.if kansas beats mizzou then loses to oklahoma they should go ahead of most 1 loss teams. its not fair at all.

11/23/2007 7:23:06 PM

I agree with better qualified, but that doesnt make them the better team... If someone goes undefeated in a BCS conference they deserve to go to the NC game, but that doesnt automatically make them "better" than the other teams that didnt go, just means that circumstances worked out better for them

11/23/2007 7:24:32 PM

for page 3.

Quote :

"1. LSU 10-1 SEC-CG 2. Kansas 11-0 Missouri, Big 12 CG ??? 3. West Virginia 9-1 UConn, Pitt 4. Missouri 10-1 Kansas, Big 12 CG ??? 5. Ohio State 11-1 DONE 6. Arizona State 9-1 Arizona 7. Georgia 9-2 @GT, SEC-CG ??? 8. Virginia Tech 9-2 @UVA, ACC-CG ??? 9. Oregon 8-2 @UCLA, Oregon State 10. Oklahoma 9-2 OK State, Big 12 CG "

I wonder how far LSU drops. Most likely the winner of Kansas and Missouri loses to Oklahoma in the Big 12 CG. And a Tennesee loss could put LSU against a top 5 Georgia team in the SEC championship game.

11/23/2007 7:24:46 PM

OMG HAWAI'I IS GETTING SCREWED

11/23/2007 7:24:52 PM

if the winner of Missouri and Kansas loses to Oklahoma, then its WV and Ohio State... but if WV loses then it will be Georgia and Ohio State, assuming Georgia beats GT

11/23/2007 7:25:54 PM

To me all of this is just another example of why we need a playoff system. No team has come out yet and put a stamp on being the best in the country honestly. Everytime it seems a team has stepped up and looks good they go out and lose to an unranked team. We will see how Kansas plays tomorrow night. As of now I'd say there are about 8 teams that can make a legit claim to being best in the country. I'd love to see em play it on the field, but as of now our system says sorry LSU we gave you a shot after you blew one game, but twice aint gonna cut it.

11/23/2007 7:26:18 PM

lsu defense is proclaimed best in the afc but imo its questionable, talent aside.

11/23/2007 7:26:22 PM

I don't think there is anyone out there that thinks that if Kansas can beat Mizzou AND OU that they don't deserve it... It's just that nobody thinks they WILL actually win those two games.

I'd put my $$$$ on tOSU-WVU at this exact moment...

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 7:27 PM. Reason : and my post on the last page got buried... but it's correct.]

11/23/2007 7:27:17 PM

^ me too



and poor Tennessee... have a feeling LSU might take out some anger on them next week IF Tennessee beats Kentucky, which I doubt

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 7:28 PM. Reason : d]

11/23/2007 7:27:40 PM

What has to really suck is VT all of a sudden realizing that BC meltdown may have cost them a lot more than they realized.

11/23/2007 7:27:45 PM

it seems like half the time - the BCS works

then there are years like this.....sigh

at least we're NC State - and have no chance of being screwed by the BCS, haha

11/23/2007 7:28:47 PM

The worst part of all of this is that there is a good chance OSU somehow climbs back into the game even though they didnt play the last 3 weeks of the season lol.

11/23/2007 7:30:06 PM

If Georgia ends up in the CG and they don't even play in their own conference championship then I'll quit watching college football forever.

Ok I probably won't but that isn't that unlikely of a scenario, how fucking rediculous what a shit system.

11/23/2007 7:30:16 PM

Oklahoma did it before, or was it Nebraska, cant remember

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 7:31 PM. Reason : d]

11/23/2007 7:30:38 PM

No Oklahoma played in the conference championship and lost, then made the championship game, I believe?

They went undefeated into the conference championship, got demolished by K State, then played in the National championship and got crushed by someone, LSU or USC...

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 7:32 PM. Reason : to lazy to search it.]

11/23/2007 7:31:29 PM

the year they got smacked around by USC right?


didnt Nebraska do it too against Miami? there was something wacky about that year, they all run together now

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 7:32 PM. Reason : d]

11/23/2007 7:32:36 PM

Could happen this year as well... Kansas beats mizzou, loses to oklahoma, WVU loses to UCONN or Pitt. That leaves KU and OSU as the only one loss teams even though KU didnt win their conference. Ok guess not exactly the same but still kinda shitty.

It was nebraksa, the lost to colorado and didnt even play in the conference title game but still ended up playing in the natl title game I think screwing oregon and colorado that year.

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 7:34 PM. Reason : .]

11/23/2007 7:33:08 PM

^^

Oklahoma made the Nat'l Championship game after losing in the Big XII title game.

Nebraska made the Nat'l Championship game after not even getting to the Big XII title game.

11/23/2007 7:34:21 PM

I think if Kansas beats Missouri, but then loses to Oklahoma (and WV loses), Georgia will jump them

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 7:35 PM. Reason : d]

11/23/2007 7:34:48 PM

If KU losses one they are done.

Noone has ever made the NC w/out making it to their conference championship. They have made it though after losing in their conference championship game.

But if WVU losses, and the Big 12 shakes up the way most think, it could leave Georgia and OSU.

^^ K thanks.

Still shitty. To me, if you don't win your conference you shouldn't get to play for a national title. Just how I feel.

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 7:37 PM. Reason : ,]

11/23/2007 7:34:50 PM

^ look at ^^^ I couldnt remember the details but sounds right

11/23/2007 7:35:47 PM

defenses suck this year.

11/23/2007 7:37:28 PM

Time to break out my

THIS IS MY UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS T-SHIRT


GO HOGS

11/23/2007 7:37:37 PM

Id love to see an 8 team playoff this year, those would be some pretty damn good games I am thinking

11/23/2007 7:37:42 PM

Quote :

"Noone has ever made the NC w/out making it to their conference championship. They have made it though after losing in their conference championship game."

Nebraska went to the Rose Bowl Nat'l Championship and lost to Miami:
http://tinyurl.com/3a36gv

Colorado, however, won the Big XII North and then the Big XII:
http://tinyurl.com/2mfwcz

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 7:51 PM. Reason : for the sake of clarity]

11/23/2007 7:38:39 PM

1 LSU .9904
2 Kansas .9488
3 West Virginia .8878
4 Missouri .8707
5 Ohio State .8602
6 Arizona State .8019
7 Georgia .7438
8 Virginia Tech .6796
9 Oregon .6267
10 Oklahoma .5816

hmm...that's a big gap. LSU could still be top 5. And it would be funny as hell if they put them ahead of the fuckeyes.

11/23/2007 7:51:37 PM

My prediction of West Virginia vs Ohio State will come true!

11/23/2007 8:21:31 PM

Anyone think that if either Kansas or Missouri win out and WVU win their final 2 games, there's any chance OSU somehow jumps them to play Kansas/Missou?

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 8:31 PM. Reason : As a WVU fan I sure hope not, just seeing if anyone thinks it's even possible]

11/23/2007 8:28:59 PM

no way a team idle that long jumps someone.

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 8:31 PM. Reason : ]

11/23/2007 8:31:07 PM

Nope... literally none at all. WVU's computer ranking can only go up if they win out.

V they play a more athletic style but I can't get a read on them yet. They are a bunch of Princeton guys trying to play up tempo. If they hit their shots they can win this game but I personally think UT will cover... I wouldn't put $$$ on it though.

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 8:37 PM. Reason : x]

11/23/2007 8:31:49 PM

speaking of WV..... how is their bball team this year? they play Tennessee in 20 minutes, want to know if I should put a bet on it, 8 seems mighty high

11/23/2007 8:35:18 PM

Quote :

"1. LSU 10-1 SEC-CG 2. Kansas 11-0 Missouri, Big 12 CG ??? 3. West Virginia 9-1 UConn, Pitt 4. Missouri 10-1 Kansas, Big 12 CG ??? 5. Ohio State 11-1 DONE 6. Arizona State 9-1 Arizona 7. Georgia 9-2 @GT, SEC-CG ??? 8. Virginia Tech 9-2 @UVA, ACC-CG ??? 9. Oregon 8-2 @UCLA, Oregon State 10. Oklahoma 9-2 OK State, Big 12 CG"

How far will LSU drop because of this loss? Ohio State better hope and pray that Mizzou and Kansas takes a loss if not they won't get to play. Yeah I think that Virginia Tech realizes now that the egg they laid to BC cost them a NC shot but as crazy as this season has been they might end up playing Ohio State if Kansas losses to Mizzou, West Virginia losses to UConn/Pitt, Mizzou losses the Big 12 CG, Georgia takes a loss, and they win out. I am predicting Missouri vs West Virginia.

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 9:18 PM. Reason : ]

11/23/2007 9:12:58 PM

The National Championship:

Georgia vs The Ohio State University

mark it down

how it happens:
WVU falls to UConn or Pitt, winner of Kansas/Missou falls in Big 12 championship vs Texas or Oklahoma, Tennessee loses to Kentucky, Georgia beats LSU in the SEC Championship

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 9:26 PM. Reason : .]

11/23/2007 9:25:07 PM

I'm guessing they end up just outside the top 5. At least 2 of the top 5 and Arizona State will have lost this week. Kansas-Mizzou loser could still end up ahead of them.

11/23/2007 9:27:48 PM

Quote :

"Jaybee1200 Volunteer BBall 28837 Posts user info edit post if the winner of Missouri and Kansas loses to Oklahoma, then its WV and Ohio State... but if WV loses then it will be Georgia and Ohio State, assuming Georgia beats GT"

11/23/2007 9:29:48 PM

damn. Georgia is only 3.5 pt favorites over GT. I mean hell, they almost let carolina beat them.

11/23/2007 9:37:29 PM

^^ dammit, I didn't see you post that

why do you have it my number lately, Jaybee?

11/23/2007 9:42:24 PM

^^ yeah, I took Georgia big, but that does seem fishy


^ doesnt matter, its not like only one of us can have a certain opinion

[Edited on November 23, 2007 at 9:43 PM. Reason : d]

11/23/2007 9:43:47 PM

dont you play nice with me

but srsly GO DAWGS

11/23/2007 9:50:59 PM

I gotta agree with NyM410...Miles isn't that great of a coach...he just has the talent to overcome his lack of coaching ability...the time out situation at the end of regulation pretty much sums it up

11/24/2007 3:48:02 AM

surprise, I was happy about the outcome of this game.

11/24/2007 8:04:04 AM

Quote :

"I feel for LSU, best team in the country wont be in the NC game now"

best team in the country wins the games needed to prove it...

they might be the "most talented" team in the coutnry, but it's fairly obvious at this point that they can't lay claim to being the best

11/24/2007 9:26:29 AM

Then you should feel bad for USC as well, injuries killed them ( I know it is part of the game ) and the way they took it to ASU the other night I think they are better then the teams that will end up in the NC game.

Kansas/Mizzou vs. WVU would be the strangest NC game in a long time, I don't know if I could get excited for that because I'd just feel like it wasn't the two best teams, just the two that survived this year. Good for them I guess.

11/24/2007 10:59:15 AM

It's almost NEVER the best two teams. Really, the SC-Texas game was one of the only years that it was. Last year the best two teams were SC and LSU...

tOSU-WVU would be GREAT to watch. They are only 2 hours apart, the fans and players HATE each other and it would be spread versus pro offense again.

Really, from 1-10, almost all of the SOS have been pretty close to each other (other than Kansas whose SOS is awful -- but if they win the next two will rise DRAMATICALLY) so I have a hard time saying those who make it don't deserve it.

[Edited on November 24, 2007 at 11:02 AM. Reason : x]

11/24/2007 11:00:43 AM

This year is not comparable to other years, where you have 3-4 deserving teams and someone gets screwed in some way and everyone is argueing over who should be in.

I would not look forward to an OSU WVU game. I wouldn't even put OSU in my top 5 this year, maybe not even in my top 8. To me the game is always better when there is the underdog dynamic to it, WVU or Kansas vs. LSU would have had that. W/out LSU that is lost.

11/24/2007 11:10:31 AM