all i know is

if i was randomly robbin' some dude and he came down the stairs and was sean taylors size with a monster machete

you're goddamned right im shooing

im not gonna get hacked up

11/27/2007 10:47:19 AM

Obviously the killer wasn't trying to kill him...IMO he was trying to shoot him in the nuts/cock, which would almost be worse than killing him.

11/27/2007 10:47:26 AM

i dont think any of us are saying we know what happened

i for one dont even care

that doesnt change who he was on the field

but its absurd for wlbnumbers and terball to completely deny the possibility that he was "into some thug shit" given his past transgressions off the field (and on)

either way, he'll be missed and its a shame.

11/27/2007 10:49:27 AM

^^^ he was shot in his bedroom

[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 10:49 AM. Reason : ]

11/27/2007 10:49:29 AM

^^ I doubt it, i'm not completely denying it

11/27/2007 10:50:30 AM

your vehement disallowing of any other possibility says otherwise

11/27/2007 10:51:33 AM

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"but its absurd for wlbnumbers and terball to completely deny the possibility that he was "into some thug shit" given his past transgressions off the field (and on"

read much?

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" wlb420 All American 5413 Posts user info edit post what's naive is to rule out any possibility of this being random, or at least no fault of taylor. sure there is a possibility he was into something he should've been, but on the flip side there is the possibility he wasn't."

11/27/2007 10:52:18 AM

now time for all the

3/4 of Heaven is covered by god

the rest? sean taylor

11/27/2007 10:52:52 AM

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"^^^ he was shot in his bedroom "

ok rephrase

im randomly robbin' some dude, most people keep their highest value jewlery and the like in or near the master bedroom/bath

monster dude like taylor stands up with a machete, im shooting

terp, perhaps you don't see that im saying that it's plausible that it could be 100% random (or agreeing with you)

11/27/2007 10:53:49 AM

^^Darrent Williams had dibs

[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 10:54 AM. Reason : x]

11/27/2007 10:54:04 AM

true

11/27/2007 10:55:15 AM

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"terp, perhaps you don't see that im saying that it's plausible that it could be 100% random (or agreeing with you)"

no i wasn't trying to argue, just clearing up the fact that he was shot in his bedroom

I mean, it could have been random, more likely that people were after him. I just dont' think it's fair to assume it's because of some "thug shit"

I'm just reacting to people like treetwista and slave that make unfair assumptions (but actually really don't know shit)

11/27/2007 10:58:30 AM

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"I just dont' think it's fair to assume it's because of some "thug shit""

why not? why the fuck not? dude has been charged with MULTIPLE FELONIES RELATING TO FIREARMS in the past, but YOU dont think its FAIR to assume he's into some thug shit? and just why the fuck not?

"unfair assumptions" get that shit the fuck out of there...when he pulls guns on people and gets charged with felonies, and the only reason he was playing in the league and not doing a federal prison sentence is because of all his scholarships he set up, its pretty god damn fair to assume he's STILL into some thug shit...maybe if he hadn't pulled weapons on people before he wouldn't get this reaction

11/27/2007 11:00:01 AM

No one on the wolf web knows what really happened

We're all just speculating

Some of us like to connect the dots, while others refuse to

11/27/2007 11:01:42 AM

If this happened to another black player with no history of thuggery---say Ladanian Tomlinso---than none of us would assume he was up to no good

But since Taylor does have a history, its like watching Rasheed argue with a ref---its a lot harder to give him the benefit of the doubt

11/27/2007 11:04:26 AM

i like that the race card got introduced now

terball is sure to go crazy

11/27/2007 11:04:59 AM

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"charged with MULTIPLE FELONIES RELATING TO FIREARMS "

I see you used to word CHARGED and not CONVICTED

It was never proven he brandished any firearm - though he may have (who really knows?)

You're referring to 1 incident, where he was trying to retrieve stolen ATVs- even though you said MULTIPLE FELONIES RELATING TO FIREARMS - this only happened once

So, when else was he charged with a felony relating to firearms treetwista?

[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 11:07 AM. Reason : ^ race card? what race card?]

11/27/2007 11:06:46 AM

^a few

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"ok rephrase im randomly robbin' some dude, most people keep their highest value jewlery and the like in or near the master bedroom/bath monster dude like taylor stands up with a machete, im shooting terp, perhaps you don't see that im saying that it's plausible that it could be 100% random (or agreeing with you) "

I would find that more plausible if it didn't happen twice a week a part, with nothing stolen, on weekends it was known he was likely to be home.

[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 11:10 AM. Reason : ^s]

11/27/2007 11:08:54 AM

he was charged with 3 felonies for the ATV incident

i guess most NFL players get bogus gun felonies though so its unfair to assume they are anything less than churchgoers who work at homeless shelters during their free time and donate all their salaries to foster homes

11/27/2007 11:08:56 AM

black people and 'thug shit' go hand in hand


There a maybe 10 white athletes in all of America that would stir up any rumblings of 'thug shit' if they got in any kind of trouble

Coincidentally, one of them lives in Miami.

11/27/2007 11:09:13 AM

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"I see you used to word CHARGED and not CONVICTED"

11/27/2007 11:09:22 AM

^^^OH, YOU'RE TRYING TO BE FUNNY!

[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 11:10 AM. Reason : ]

11/27/2007 11:10:03 AM

DC radio is brainwashing terpball apparently

he's bending over backwards to defend somebody he doesnt even know, simply because its "unfair" for any of us to even consider that he might still be into some shady shit

[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 11:11 AM. Reason : .]

11/27/2007 11:10:25 AM

Brainwashing me into what?

11/27/2007 11:11:43 AM

I'd just like to say I enjoy these arguments that span 2 forums, makes it feel more important than it really is.

11/27/2007 11:12:05 AM

apparently brainwashing you into being 100% certain that Sean Taylor had completely turned his life around

11/27/2007 11:12:37 AM

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"apparently into being 100% certain that Sean Taylor had completely turned his life around"

you're a fucking idiot

11/27/2007 11:13:35 AM

RIP ST

11/27/2007 11:14:48 AM

you dont have to quote something thats directly above your post


and name calling is a signal that the rest of your arguments are falling short

11/27/2007 11:14:51 AM

its pretty clear to everyone in here who the biggest, most naive and gullible idiot is on this particular topic

11/27/2007 11:14:57 AM

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"Bottom line is that this guy is dead and its sad. Take your accusations and your shitty attitude to the chit chat thread. This is a tragedy and I for one would rather mourn this awesome players death than have a pissing contest over who knows what happened. Grow the fuck up."

11/27/2007 11:17:14 AM

Fine, you guys are right. Everything the team has said all year about him... complete lies. No way this could have been a jealous person from his past, or an angry person from his past.

And an armed robbery gone wrong? NO WAY! NOT WITH THIS THUG WHO MAY HAVE BRANDISHED A GUN 2 YEARS AGO!

IT WAS SOME THUG SHIT NIGGA!!!!!!!

11/27/2007 11:18:39 AM

blah

[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 11:21 AM. Reason : .]

11/27/2007 11:19:48 AM

We're saying 80 percent thug shit, 20 percent random

You're saying 20 percent thug shit, 80 percent random

You THINK we're saying 100 percent thug shit

but we're not

11/27/2007 11:20:22 AM

i think he was shot by a wookie

which is just as plausible as anyone else's assumption

because no one knows shit right now

we're all wrong

11/27/2007 11:22:01 AM

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"i wish sean taylor had been white so terpball would just shut the fuck up with his naivete "

Once again, you're a fucking idiot. I was even defending the DON'T TASE ME BRO (which i regret now) guy on this site, but you think this is about race?

SHUT THE FUCK UP

11/27/2007 11:23:01 AM

^^not only do we not know, but its unfair to speculate unless your speculation is that it was random, because speculating that he was in with the wrong crowd is unfair

^i edited that out so your simple ass wouldnt pitch a fit...too late i see

[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 11:24 AM. Reason : .]

11/27/2007 11:23:10 AM

sean taylor was runnin' with wookies

11/27/2007 11:23:35 AM

^^^Even you have to admit his race played a role in our feelings that this was more than a random robbery

[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 11:24 AM. Reason : x]

11/27/2007 11:24:18 AM

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"^i edited that out so your simple ass wouldnt pitch a fit...too late i see "

or maybe you realized how stupid that post was. I'm thinking you probably just realized how stupid you were being

^ I don't care what race he is - I was trouble, now I'm not. It can happen, and I hate when people act like it's not possible.

[Edited on November 27, 2007 at 11:27 AM. Reason : ]

11/27/2007 11:25:26 AM

this got blown out or proportion quickly.

no one is saying for certain thats what happened. but for terpball to say its "unfair" to assume that is off base. his past actions make it "fair" to assume so. I don't know how you can get so worked up over people suggesting something based off his past actions. their argument is just as good as your's is. yet you're calling them stupid because they disagree with you.


wowsers. go get some fresh air man.

11/27/2007 11:26:10 AM

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"not only do we not know, but its unfair to speculate unless your speculation is that it was random, because speculating that he was in with the wrong crowd is unfair"

no, its unfair to speculate in any situation when you pretty much say there's a 100% possibility of A and a 0% chance of B.

11/27/2007 11:26:10 AM

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"but for terpball to say its "unfair" to assume that is off base"

I disagree

11/27/2007 11:29:11 AM

^^exactly.

11/27/2007 11:33:52 AM

glossing over all the debate over whether he was in some "Thug" stuff or not doesn't change the fact that today the NFL lost an awesome player. No matter what team you supported, if you were an football fan you knew about Sean Taylor and how hard hitting a safety he was and how much fun it was to watch him tackle someone on another team ( not that much fun against your team). Our prayers and thoughts go out to his family, friends and the whole Redskins organizations and hope the police eventually catch the person/people involve and resolve this issue.

However my 2cent since I like to talk, he could have been, could not have been in some "Thug" stuff, but I've seen many people change dramatically after realizing there is another life that depends on them, ie him getting a daughter, so I'm givin him the benefit of the doubt, would i be surprised if he was no, but for now based on what other said and seeing how having children have changed people lives, for the moment he gets the benefit of the doubt from me.

11/27/2007 11:35:13 AM

I would be surprised if it WASN'T someone from his "past life." Motive could be revenge, jealousy, or money.

11/27/2007 11:38:26 AM

i wouldve given him the benefit of the doubt, until he had his phone lines cut and had intruders break in and shoot him less than 12 hours after he arrived at that house...did they even steal anything from his house? was there even any type of robbery? and even if he had completely cleaned up his act and it was somebody from his past...well it was somebody from his past from when he was in some thug shit

11/27/2007 11:41:31 AM

so... what exactly is "thug shit" treetwista?

11/27/2007 11:45:50 AM

illegal activity

that's pretty easy to define

but you want everyone to associate it with the fact that he was black to continue deviating the discussion further

11/27/2007 11:47:28 AM

the departed, sopranos, godfather, goodfellas, etc. was all about thug shit and not too many black people in those flicks

11/27/2007 11:53:44 AM