Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
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tripleD4u All American 6247 Posts user info edit post |
Danny yea i got most of my shit in there kinda still all over the place tho should have it all in the next few weeks I will have to swing over this weekend and we can start on the yz motor if you want?!? 1/9/2008 6:16:51 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
For those who like this car or want to know more about it:
(AMAZING engine and chassis pics and info)
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/15/detroit-2008-chevrolet-ls9-cutaway-display/ http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/14/detroit-2008-2009-lsa-6-2l-superchar/ http://www.autoblog.com/photos/detroit-2008-corvette-zr1-chassis-display/ 1/16/2008 6:43:50 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
First one sold for $1,000,000 at a charity auction.
http://jalopnik.com/346943/barrett+jackson...ion-for-1000000 1/21/2008 1:10:26 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
Shiny.
That article says Jay Leno bought it I think?
Figures!
My only question about this car is whether or not mid-life-crisis-guy (who lives down the street from my parents' house) is going to trade in his vette for one of these. 1/21/2008 1:13:35 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
bttt 4/28/2008 12:25:56 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
good save. 4/28/2008 9:29:54 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
The LS9 has officially been rated at:
638 hp 604 lb-ft
!!!
Quote : | "The high word is finally out, the Corvette ZR1, powered by GM's new and most powerful engine ever, produces 638 hp. The hand-built 6.2 liter LS9 supercharged V8 engine was initially estimated at 620 hp, 100 hp per liter, but has exceeded expectations with 638 hp (476 kW) and 819 Nm of torque (604 lb.-ft.)" |
And a video showing it reach 205 mph:
Quote : | "[UPDATE - 2:45pm EST] GM has sent us this excellent video which shows a top speed run at their banked oval test track in Papenburg Germany. While the ZR1 takes the high road, other vehicles testing simulataneously such as a semi trailer truck are taking the low road and seem to be stationary objects as the ZR1 rockets past. Although a little difficult to see in the video, look carefully at the digital speedometer mounted just below the air vents in the center console. Cruising at a steady 100 mph, the ZR1 shows you how quickly it can reach 205mph" |
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080425.002/video-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-rated-at-638-hp
2 nice pics as well:
4/29/2008 7:18:24 AM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
slower or not (i really dont care)
it looks better than the GTR 4/29/2008 12:56:09 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
Sweet Jesus, thats some power! 4/29/2008 2:46:53 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
^^this thing is going to murder gtr's. looks like the 08 vipers will be history also.
if the ls9 is anything like all the other lsx engines, i bet they'll crank out somewhere around the 600 mark to the wheels if not more. gm has consistently underated their performance cars for the last decade. a pulley swap, tune, and exhaust and i'll bet some will be hitting a conservative 675-700. that's nuts for a $100k factory car. 4/29/2008 5:03:45 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
yeah... i think it'll be the first "super car" that if i see one on the road.. i'll want to run away from it... for fear of what the driver might do...] 4/29/2008 5:06:12 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^this thing is going to murder gtr's" |
that's not a fair comparison.
Z06 vs. GT-R ZR1 vs. GT-R Spec V
Quote : | "The Nissan GT-R's 7:29 lap record won't stand for long if Chevrolet has anything to say about it. Speaking with InsideLine, Corvette Chief Engineer, Tadge Jeuchter, says that the ZR1, "will be able to take the production-car track record at any racetrack," and that although Chevy doesn't have a production version of the uber-Vette at the Nurburgring yet, they're expecting a lap time of "seven minutes, twenty-something seconds." That sounds like smack-talk to us. But while the ZR1 might have the potential to best the GT-R's 'Ring time, the 550-600 hp elephant in the room is the forthcoming GT-R V-Spec, which is already putting down (roughly-timed) laps around the North Loop in the 7:25 realm. Let the battle begin. We're making popcorn now." |
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/02/corvette-zr1-engineer-says-gt-r-wont-be-king-of-the-ring-for-l/
The part I bolded is very bold of Chevrolet. Are they saying they can beat the F430 Scuderia, which is beating the Enzo's times at racetracks? Or [ALL] other similar cars?5/2/2008 6:14:19 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
......
might haves a lil somethin to say about that.....
well i guess its not production... huh ?
Please define production 5/2/2008 7:12:19 PM |
1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
straight line maybe and even that after past 120mph or so. gt-r will still run circles around it on the track.
[Edited on May 2, 2008 at 8:58 PM. Reason : f] 5/2/2008 8:58:06 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that's not a fair comparison." |
i didn't say it was. i was responding the above statement of "slower or not".
Quote : | "The part I bolded is very bold of Chevrolet." |
it's bold, but you can bet that the chief engineer isn't making public statements like that without some pretty damn solid knowledge that it's the truth. like i mentioned above, if there's one thing gm meets or exceeds it's their advertised power and performance numbers.5/2/2008 9:43:08 PM |
FredNCSU Veteran 219 Posts user info edit post |
5/2/2008 9:59:07 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "where's your rock n roll attitude?" |
5/2/2008 10:09:19 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
The Ascari A10 is sick. I saw it on Top Gear the other week, just plain nasty. 0-60 in 2.8 and it got the top time by the Stig on their track. 5/3/2008 3:02:08 AM |
slaptit All American 2991 Posts user info edit post |
^but it didn't have a radio 5/3/2008 11:45:33 PM |
slowblack96 All American 4999 Posts user info edit post |
oh sweet. a super car that got beat in everything buy a fucking nissan. 5/4/2008 3:34:28 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
1. this isn't a super car
2. it's not getting beat by any nissan
next? 5/4/2008 4:16:38 AM |
slowblack96 All American 4999 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Nissan GT-R,7:29 lap record at Nürburgring" |
there is #15/4/2008 5:00:08 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^
1) The ZR1 hasn't lapped the Nurburgring yet, so no one can say for sure which will be faster. 2) The GT-R's time is not #1, but very close to it. Here are the top few:
#1 7:27.82 - Pagani Zonda F Clubsport #2 7:28 - Porsche Carerra GT #3 7:29 - Nissan GT-R #4 7:32 - Porsche 911 GT2 #5 7:34 - Koenigsegg CCR #6 7:38 - Mercedes-Benz SLR 722 GT #7 7:40 - Porsche 911 Turbo #7 7:40 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren #7 7:40 - Bugatti Veyron 16/4 #10 7:42 - Porsche 911 GT3 #10 7:42 - Ford GT #12 7:42.9 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 #12 7:43 - Lamborghini Murcielago
Considering that the Nissan's price is anywhere from 5% to 50% of the others (save for the GT3), it is quite remarkable in motoring history that it is near the top. And I bet that someone will pilot it in under the Zonda's/CGT's time in the near future. And yeah, the V-Spec will of course shatter the Zonda/CGT to pieces, again, at a fraction of the price.
Note: I am not including various superlights in that list. Otherwise, before the Zonda, you have:
6:55 - Radical SR8 7:12 - Radical SR3 Turbo 7:14 - Donkervoort D8 RS 7:18 - Donkervoort D8 RS
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times
So does Ferrari not like to take their cars to the Nurburgring? 5/4/2008 8:24:48 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
^^if there's one thing you're always right about, it's being wrong.
going back the the gm engineer's bold statment, i would just like to also mention the fact that the previous zr1 was targeted at eliminating as many records as possible, and was largely successfull. this c6 zr1 might finally be the car to break the numerous speed/endurance records currently held by the c4 zr1. quite fitting i'd say, and also quite a testament to the level of heritage and history coming behind the c6 model. to have held off these records for 15, yes FIFTEEN years and now possibly break and reclaim them with a different model of the same car is baller.
[Edited on May 4, 2008 at 11:56 PM. Reason : .] 5/4/2008 11:41:19 PM |
datman All American 4812 Posts user info edit post |
bobby murray chevy has one in their show room 5/5/2008 3:43:48 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
nice. i might ride by there and snap a couple of pics if i have a chance, that's close to my office. i'm sure it's probably sold and they've just made an agreement to let it sit in the showroom a while. or, it's going to an owner/employee. 5/5/2008 9:27:10 AM |
datman All American 4812 Posts user info edit post |
i don't know, its fucking sweet though
i couldn't stop looking at it. it may be the 08, i don't know if its the 09 actually.
but either way, it has a 78k price tag on it 5/5/2008 9:49:23 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, that's just a zo6. if it's a zr1 for 78k, i'll be heading to the dealership this afternoon. expect it on ebay by tonight.
[Edited on May 5, 2008 at 9:56 AM. Reason : zr1 msrp is 99k plus who knows how much dealers will add on...] 5/5/2008 9:54:32 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
GM's official stats just released:
0-60 mph in 3.4 sec 1/4 mile in 11.3 sec @ 131 mph top out at 205 mph
But I know once people get a hold of it, they will break the first two numbers. The Z06 has been clocked at 3.4, so I am sure this will do like flat 3. And the Z06 does the 1/4 mile in 11.7, so perhaps this can do it in 11 flat.
Also released:
MSRP: 103,000 Gas guler tax: 1,700 Chrome wheels: 2,000 Only option package: 10,000
Mileage 14/20 city/hwy (3rd most fuel-efficient supercar on earth - 1st is Porsche GT3 @ 15/22, 2nd is Dodge Viper @ 12/22)
Also, a video:
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/17/video-corvette-zr1-being-built-from-start-to-finish/
[Edited on June 17, 2008 at 5:04 PM. Reason : ] 6/17/2008 4:58:33 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
^freaking sweet! However:
Quote : | "But I know once people get a hold of it, they will break the first two numbers. The Z06 has been clocked at 3.4, so I am sure this will do like flat 3. And the Z06 does the 1/4 mile in 11.7 10.9, so perhaps this can do it in 11 flat 10.5." |
Fixed it for ya
[Edited on June 17, 2008 at 5:42 PM. Reason : k]6/17/2008 5:41:51 PM |
Norrin Radd All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The hand-built 6.2 liter LS9 supercharged V8 engine was initially estimated at 620 hp, 100 hp per liter, but has exceeded expectations with 638 hp (476 kW) and 819 Nm of torque (604 lb.-ft.)"" |
103hp per liter from something force fed.......break out the efficiency record books 6/17/2008 5:59:24 PM |
buttseks Suspended 1227 Posts user info edit post |
louis nutzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
strikes again 6/17/2008 6:00:50 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ WAI?
R&T recorded 11.7. What about MT and C&D? Source please! Enzo/McLaren are 11.0-11.1 ! 6/17/2008 6:38:45 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
^^^so what? You can take this engine and pound on it at the race track till the cows come home. Everybody (including you) would trade a flat powerband for some peaky high efficiency engine.
^Check out the Corvette forums. There are documented time slips for Z06s, stock, on stock (crappy) run flat tires, that will run high 10s. Its all driver. BigBlueRam will back me up on that. 6/17/2008 7:23:36 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
^Yep, and if you want to see the limits of the force fed options on the Vette, go over to the Lingenfelter TT kits. I believe they have just opened the doors on the 1200hp TT. And the 1000hp TT option has been there for a while.
It ain't cheap, but it's doable. I'm just impressed GM can offer what it is offering with the reliability and warranty, two thumbs up! 6/17/2008 8:01:05 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
VR4 was a 3.0L and made over 300HP 17 years ago
Nobody is claiming it's some kind of record HP/liter. The point is there's no production car at this power level stock that even comes close in terms of price and longevity. Although I'm assuming on longevity.. I think the LSx motors have proven that they're up for the challenge thus far and it's obviously covered under warranty.. Badass car no doubt 6/17/2008 8:13:12 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^get your nose out of magazines and worldcarfans.com and into the real world. there has been a fully documented/verified run of 10.9x in a showroom stock c6 zo6, right down to the crappy runflat tires. privately owned vehicle, not a manufacturer "ringer" or anything. it happened at mir, which is one of if not the best track in the country in terms of prep and weather. there have been numerous documented sub 10.99 runs from other cars around the country with the only modification being drag radials.
needless to say, the new zr-1 will be deep into the 10's. more importantly, it should be a legitimate every day 10 second car. that means at almost any track, in varying weather conditions, etc. it's capable of a 10.99 or better.
it's not even close to being a straight line only performer. it's the total package. in case anyone has missed it, a gm engineer has emphatically stated that it will beat ANY production vehicle on ANY road course in the world. that's a hell of a statement to back up, but i don't think it would be made if they weren't pretty confident of it being true.
^certainly, i see no reason this next incarnation will be any different. the other past and current members of the ls family of engines will take some serious beatings and have only gotten better with each new model. the rest of the car might fall apart around it though. 6/17/2008 10:44:25 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
I feel like chevy is doing a porsche here...
Taking a silly setup and engineering the ever living fuck out of it until it works. DUDE we can make pushrods wind higher than anything man... dude... fiberglass leaf springs man... (toke toke) 6/17/2008 10:57:52 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
what do you mean "until" it works? it's always worked. the corvette has been among the top performing sports cars since its introduction 55 years ago. especially the c4/c5/c6 have brought exceptional performance at a relative bargain. who else has done so much with a single model?
the only silliness is that gm has pwnt everyone else with simple "ancient" technology. 6/17/2008 11:09:44 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
hey one decent piece of engineering amongst a sea of failures.
they will sell 3000 of these and wait 2 more years to bring out the Volt.
A+
TKE-Teg "chevy has their shit together " below the following line
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TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
6/17/2008 11:53:23 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "103hp per liter from something force fed.......break out the efficiency record books " |
Yeah, specific output is mediocre.
In related news, who gives a shit? It has pretty much nothing to do with anything.6/18/2008 12:12:59 AM |
pfcvo Veteran 168 Posts user info edit post |
It's a shame only 1700 units will be made this year for the US. The other 300 will be exported. The production limiting factor is the supplier's ability to mass produce the carbon fiber roof and other cf components. Hopefully the prices will come down to MSRP levels by the end of the 2010 production run. The 2005 Ford GT had up to a $100,000 mark up and by the end of 2006/ beginning of 2007, prices were at MSRP. 6/18/2008 9:23:50 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Corvette Chief Engineer, Tadge Jeuchter, says that the ZR1, "will be able to take the production-car track record at any racetrack,"" |
AND IT'S DONE!
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080627.013/corvette-zr1-laps-nurburgring-in-7-min-26
Corvette ZR1 Laps Nurburgring in 7 min 26.4 sec
Quote : | "According to Corvette chief engineer Tadge Juechter, the ZR1 has, just yesterday morning, lapped the Ring in a time of 7 minutes 26.4 seconds. The car was stock standard except for the communications and safety equipment. No elaboration on what exactly this safety equipment is, but standard issue would include a fire extinguisher, in case the fast ZR1 pulled an R8 V10. Tires were stock too, and so was fuel, which was normal pump juice and not racing liquid.
Development engineer Jim Mero drove the car’s rims off from a rolling start, but felt he could have gone even quicker around a few places. A strong headwind was felt rushing through the main straight as well." |
Now imagine the numbers it can pull in the hands of a professional racer! 7 min 25 sec does not seem unlikely.
For comparison, here are the top 5 times again:
#1 7:27.82 - Pagani Zonda F Clubsport #2 7:28 - Porsche Carerra GT #3 7:29 - Nissan GT-R #4 7:32 - Porsche 911 GT2 #5 7:34 - Koenigsegg CCR
And the superlights, which are not included under "production cars":
6:55 - Radical SR8 7:12 - Radical SR3 Turbo 7:15 - Donkervoort D8 270 RS
So now, the world record for production sedans (CTS-V in 7' 59", beating the latest M3 and M5/M6!) and production coupes on the Nurburgring are both held by American cars! That's a great achievement, I must say!6/27/2008 7:10:47 PM |
RSXTypeS Suspended 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't understand the hate for the Corvette, you people need to get your heads out of your asses." |
its not a classy car.6/27/2008 7:15:42 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
few sports cars are "classy"
they are not made to sell real estate, they are performance machines!!!111 6/27/2008 7:31:26 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, "classy" is at odds with what makes a good sports car.
Quote : | "So now, the world record for production sedans (CTS-V in 7' 59", beating the latest M3 and M5/M6!) and production coupes on the Nurburgring are both held by American cars! That's a great achievement, I must say! " |
yeah, never thought i'd see that happen!6/27/2008 7:37:55 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
sports cars are kind of "hey look at me" and therefore , in my opinion, not classy.
A 5 series sedan however... 6/27/2008 7:42:17 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
Sweet! With a time like that it looks like the chassis really knows how to throw all that power down!!! 6/27/2008 7:45:34 PM |