Wanted to post this picture somewhere because I think it is funny...

6/6/2008 9:54:11 AM

^^lonnie chisenhall appartently had some off-field issues that scared a lot of teams away from him. Hopefully he works out for the indians


^and I wish Shields wouldve connected with that punch, Coco wouldve been sent flying

6/6/2008 9:58:33 AM

Griffey crushed #600

6/9/2008 7:28:41 PM

haha that dontrell willis guy is going to class a...always thought that dude was over rated

6/10/2008 5:39:00 PM

yeah he's never been consistent...i watched him pitch in Charlotte a few weeks ago when he was on a AAA rehab stint...he gave up back to back homers one inning, while retiring the side in another...inconsistent

and last night against the Indians he got rocked for 8 earned runs in 1 1/3 innings

[Edited on June 10, 2008 at 5:57 PM. Reason : 8 ER 1.1 IP]

6/10/2008 5:57:05 PM

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"rehab stint"

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"inconsistent"

6/10/2008 6:20:08 PM

has he had lots of rehab stints? i dont remember him having a bunch of injuries before he fucked his leg up a couple months ago, but i only kept up with that since he was pitching locally

6/10/2008 6:25:14 PM

I'm just saying it's silly to harp on the guy for pitching like shit when he's been injured all year.

6/10/2008 6:26:20 PM

fair enough, but he's never been consistent...i'm not just talking about this year

but i was wondering if he had many injury problems in the past

6/10/2008 6:27:08 PM

200+ IP, 150-170 SO, sub-league average ERA the past three years. He was bad last year but not awful. He's a pretty consistent pitcher.

6/10/2008 6:30:18 PM

his K:BB ratio has been about the only consistent thing about him...IP just means he's healthy and still in the league

career stats

14-6 3.30 ERA good season
10-11 4.02 ERA average at best season
22-10 2.63 ERA great season
12-12 3.87 ERA average at best season
10-15 5.17 ERA bad season

i wouldnt call that consistent

6/10/2008 6:34:16 PM

You're counting win-loss record as a measure of consistency? C'mon, man.

ERA+: 127, 102, 151, 112, 83
He was below the league average ERA every season before 2007.

You need to readjust your qualifications of "good" and "average" seasons for starting pitchers. Most GMs would kill for a pitcher that could put up those numbers over five seasons, let alone a pitcher who was doing it at ages 21-25. Good starting pitching is hard to come by; a guy that can be above average for 200+ innings for five straight seasons is a godsend.

6/10/2008 6:42:35 PM

Never understood the ERA+ statistic

I'm assuming 100 is the league average and anything above that is better than average

Probably a better indicator of success than just raw ERA alone

6/10/2008 6:54:31 PM

yep

6/10/2008 7:03:35 PM

ok his first season was a great season, not a good season

but the 10-11 and 12-12 seasons with ~4 eras are still average

6/10/2008 7:19:42 PM

Win-loss records are about as indicative of a good season as shoe size. Raw ERAs aren't much better.

6/10/2008 7:23:22 PM

raw ERA doesnt really have anything to do with run support so how is that not a good stat?

i know you have a man crush on dontrelle though, so i'll lay off him

6/10/2008 7:24:59 PM

Because ERA is highly dependent on the defense behind the pitcher. The Braves pitching staff in the early 90s was great, but was perceived to be other-worldly because they had the best defense in the NL behind them. The Braves pitching staff for the last 10 years has been undervalued because of the generally lousy defense behind them.

Probably the best way to evaluate a pitcher (both in the long and short terms) is by subtracting the defense. There are a lot of ways to that, read these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_independent_pitching_statistics and http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=878

And I don't have a man crush on Willis, I'm just defending his record against stupid comments.

[Edited on June 10, 2008 at 7:31 PM. Reason : ]

6/10/2008 7:31:10 PM

willis is a joke

6/10/2008 7:34:03 PM

Bronson Arroyo went yard tonight

6/12/2008 8:33:56 PM

I think this is the first time I've watched a full outing from Volquez. The Reds are going to be scary good in a few years if they can get rid of Dusty Baker.

6/14/2008 5:40:46 PM

you can't blame Baker for not putting in Cordero for the 9th

wait nevermind, thats his job

6/14/2008 9:24:47 PM

I love when stat tracker explodes.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=280615118

6/15/2008 5:19:36 PM

christ, I'm sick of the damn Red Sox getting every single primetime baseball game on tv

6/16/2008 12:50:55 PM

^^yeah i had A-Rod and I was pretty pumped about his 5 runs or whatever...I actually turned to one of my buddies and I was like "holy shit man, the Phillies have scored 20 runs a couple times this year, the Yankees have 26 runs through 7!"

6/16/2008 3:26:08 PM

I just wanted to use this time as an excuse to say if you turn it to ESPN right now, you can watch the Phillies get a taste of Red Sox' Colon

6/16/2008 7:21:06 PM

check out the first news headline on espn.com

"Yankees' Wang Shelved Until at least Sept."

6/16/2008 10:26:22 PM

TSN reported it as Yankees' Wang Out

Almost as good as Tiger Hit Yankees' Wang Hard

or Royals To Get A Taste of Angels' Colon

6/16/2008 10:35:47 PM

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"christ, I'm sick of the damn Red Sox getting every single primetime baseball game on tv"

you mean like last night when they were playing in the only game with a 7pm start time?

6/17/2008 1:27:50 AM

^They were at 7 pm because they were chosen for that game.

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"christ, I'm sick of the damn Red Sox getting every single primetime baseball game on tv"

Im sick of that and Red Saux Nation....that's what I call them. Nothing but bandwagon. Hell they have "fans" here in NC now.

6/17/2008 2:21:17 AM

Went to my first MLB game ever tonight at Camden...awesome game, beautiful park.

6/19/2008 10:36:37 PM

so hopefully more of these older pitchers go ahead and get out of the game...first smoltz and now schilling...

6/20/2008 1:39:31 PM

Smoltz will be back

6/20/2008 2:43:22 PM

Rays aren't going anywhere...

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"If Duaner Sanchez comes back as healthy as he seems to be I think this team will win 100+. But I've been wrong before."

and I'll be wrong again...

[Edited on July 2, 2008 at 10:16 PM. Reason : they are in it for the long haul this year...]

7/2/2008 10:13:25 PM

The Rays are ESPN's new team. It kinda sucks that the shoe is on the other foot now.

Can Orel Hersheiser be any more terrible of an analyst?

7/2/2008 10:14:48 PM

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"BJCaudill21 alcoholic 650 Posts user info edit post by 2012 the Rays will have 3 AL East pennants "

LOL... I thought it might take another season or two, but hell, I'll go ahead and be correct now (probably not). I'm waiting for David Price to be the best #3 in baseball in about a month or two. Move Sonnanstine or Jackson to the pen and this might just be your wild card or AL East champs.

7/3/2008 2:03:45 AM

As long as we're playing that game...

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"Ernie All American 24498 Posts user info edit post the devil rays are gonna have a really good team in two or three years if they can hang on to all their prospects its too bad they'll still be in the AL east 7/20/2006 12:58:38 PM "

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"NyM410 All American 26349 Posts user info edit post No they aren't. They are the worst run organization in baseball. They CAN compete but they won't even spend money on pitchers for ONE YEAR! They have no pitching outside of Kazmir to speak of. They won't sign but 1 or 2 players longterm (Baldelli being one) and rarely hold players through their arbitration years. If they didn't deal with a braindead GM in 2004 they'd have literally NO pitching. Until they actually trade for some pitching and sign a real pitcher they are going nowhere. They sure ain't showing any signs of being able to do that trading Hendrickson for Seo (who has SUCKED as a starter this year). 7/20/2006 6:12:24 PM "

7/5/2008 11:16:24 AM

Fatass to the Brewers for Escobar and LaPorta (??)

7/6/2008 7:01:24 PM

no escobar but yes to laporta...

laporta and 2 other minor leaguers

7/6/2008 7:24:59 PM

goodbye and good luck C.C.

looks like the tribe is packing it up and sending it in for the rest of the season. Its gonna be a long summer

I've been scoping out the Rangers and Brewers bandwagons for a few weeks now, might have to jump on for the second half

7/6/2008 8:07:54 PM

Jason Bay to the Rays for 22 year old SS Reid Brignac and former first round pick P Jeff Neimann...

This makes the Rays the team to beat in the AL East to me...

V lol... yeah, they are going to trade Manny to their biggest rivals.

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 3:24 PM. Reason : x]

7/31/2008 3:20:36 PM

until the Yankees get Manny Ramirez at 3:59 pm

7/31/2008 3:22:12 PM

Jason Bay Rays

7/31/2008 3:28:06 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/07/31/manny.sweepstakes/index.html?eref=T1

Man-Ram got his wish... I heard it on the radio here and that is the only link I can find...

No details yet.

7/31/2008 4:25:22 PM

wonder who its for

depending on who its for, the Dodgers would probably have to be the new favorites in the West, especially since the West sucks

hahah i wonder if LA somehow unloaded Andruw Jones in the deal

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 4:29 PM. Reason : .]

7/31/2008 4:29:11 PM

Heard rumors Bay went to LA first so my complete guess is

Red Sox get: Bay
Pirates get: LA prospects (Loney/Ethier/Kemp and LaRoche?)
Dodgers get: ManRam

7/31/2008 4:30:12 PM

Sweet, Nomar and Lowe are coming back!!!


jk


Boston's biggest following outside of Mass. is in L.A., haha

7/31/2008 4:31:16 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3513383

on ESPN too.

Well this sure as hell mixes the league up this year. Griffey to Chi-town, Manny to L.A., Bay to Boston, Pudge to NY, C.C. to the Brew Crew and a lot of little movements should really make this a wild finish.

I hope Kruk is in rare form tonight.

7/31/2008 4:44:32 PM

On a somewhat related note, the producer for the X-files is a huge Dodger fan. He named the Scully woman after Vin Scully.

BTW, it looks like LA is where former Red Sox heroes go to die, geez.

So Manny will play Left, Pierre will play Center, but I doubt Andruw Jones will play Right. Guessing Jones will just fill-in?

[Edited on July 31, 2008 at 5:01 PM. Reason : s]

7/31/2008 4:52:52 PM

I'm sure either Kemp or Ethier will play the other OF spot, depending on which one doesn't get traded

7/31/2008 5:04:58 PM