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"That pretty much invalidates a lot of theoretical science being done right now."

experimental and observational science > theoretical science

i.e. real actual data > predicted models

3/14/2008 3:05:06 PM

I should probably point out that all science begins with theory.

3/14/2008 3:46:56 PM

You don't have a clue what a theory is in scientific terms do you

Science begins with a hypothesis which is NOT a theory...theories develop from building on multiple hypotheses

Every time you post you show how little you understand about science

3/14/2008 3:55:19 PM

No, actually I didn't state theory as in formulating a scientific theory. I used the word theory in the general sense.

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" hy·poth·e·sis /ha?'p???s?s, h?-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hahy-poth-uh-sis, hi-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun, plural -ses /-?siz/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[-seez] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation. 1. a proposition, or set of propositions, set forth as an explanation for the occurrence of some specified group of phenomena, either asserted merely as a provisional conjecture to guide investigation (working hypothesis) or accepted as highly probable in the light of established facts. 2. a proposition assumed as a premise in an argument. 3. the antecedent of a conditional proposition. 4. a mere assumption or guess. "

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" the·o·ry /'?i?ri, '???ri/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[thee-uh-ree, theer-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun, plural -ries. 1. a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity. 2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. 3. Mathematics. a body of principles, theorems, or the like, belonging to one subject: number theory. 4. the branch of a science or art that deals with its principles or methods, as distinguished from its practice: music theory. 5. a particular conception or view of something to be done or of the method of doing it; a system of rules or principles. 6. contemplation or speculation. 7. guess or conjecture. "

--Dictionary.com

There can be no science done of the scientist doesn't formulate a theory on any given observation which makes all science, really, theoretical outside the scope of scientific law. Of which, just so you know, there are very few.

This is taught in elementary school, by the way.

[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 4:09 PM. Reason : >yawn<]

3/14/2008 4:08:50 PM

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"No, actually I didn't state theory as in formulating a scientific theory. I used the word theory in the general sense."

excuses excuses...scientists don't say 'theory' when they really mean 'hypothesis'

oh and also, real scientists don't cite dictionaries...just more proof that you know jack shit about science

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"There can be no science done of the scientist doesn't formulate a theory on any given observation"

formulate a HYPOTHESIS...keep it up though, all the people who know science are laughing at you

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"You don't have a clue what a theory is in scientific terms do you"

3/14/2008 4:25:45 PM

You should stop wasting your breath man, these idiots will figure it out in a few years as the global climate continues to cool.

3/14/2008 5:27:39 PM

Yes

Scientists certainly don't cite sources.

and the hypothesis of evolution is a farce.

Tke-Teg, ok sure we'll continue the discussion in 50 years.

3/14/2008 9:11:23 PM

its funny to see people try and save face when they realize they fuck up

relativity must have started off as just a theory and evolved into a...

oh yeah, scientists do cite sources (maybe not theoretical scientists)...but they don't cite dictionaries to try and fake their way into knowing what a scientific term means

3/14/2008 9:15:29 PM

Nice.

You cited relativity.

A theory born of thought experiments.

Good job on proving my point.

3/14/2008 9:21:29 PM