wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
i would have preferred he stay true to the ending, but i can't fault him. people are gonna go WTF at a giant squid; it really does come out of nowhere.
from what i understand, the changed ending accomplishes the same things (mass murder to prevent a war, dr. manhattan's exile). 11/13/2008 7:05:19 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
i think i heard that
*SPOILER*
Dr. Manhattan actually helps Ozymandias construct this WMD?
end spoiler
[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 8:38 PM. Reason : .] 11/13/2008 8:38:29 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
i think he does, but unwittingly.
[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 8:51 PM. Reason : .] 11/13/2008 8:51:17 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
I see.
Either way, I'm still excited.
I'm not too upset about the squid absence.
Plz2not change anything else major. 11/13/2008 8:52:20 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
If Dr. Manhattan helps him I don't see how that changes things drastically. When they learn of the entire plan Manhattan (the only one with the power to actually do anything about it) agrees with him, which also leads to the death or Rorschach.
I can't find it at the moment but I remember reading that the part of the ending involving Rorschach has also been changed. I don't know if that means he isn't killed, the journal isn't sent or read, or anything else. Those possibilities have me more worried than the absence of the squid. 11/13/2008 9:43:21 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, his death is probably more shocking to me than the squid. they definitely can't change that or i'll be pissed.
[Edited on November 13, 2008 at 9:59 PM. Reason : .] 11/13/2008 9:44:44 PM |
federal All American 2638 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I0LfvSJchk
interview with zack snyder about the ending. no really big spoilers (other than what was confirmed here), but there is some sort of allusion to
spoiler warning
ozy doesn't get away with it - i think what will happen from what he said in the interview is rorshach brings ozymandias/dr. manhattan to justice instead of sending in his journal 11/13/2008 9:51:42 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
if rorschach doesn't die then they may have ruined it. 11/13/2008 10:00:28 PM |
mrlebowski All American 9310 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder how this will affect the comedian's plotline. I suppose he could still find out about Ozymandias' plot, thus leading to his murder 11/14/2008 10:37:22 AM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
New trailer:
http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/11/13/must-watch-second-full-trailer-for-zack-snyders-watchmen/
Things to note:
Blue explosion in city. Nite Owl and Rorschach using the term "Watchmen" 11/14/2008 10:45:33 AM |
Cariad Starting Lineup 96 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ozy doesn't get away with it - i think what will happen from what he said in the interview is rorshach brings ozymandias/dr. manhattan to justice instead of sending in his journal" |
Would ruin it. I agree with the removal of the squid from a cinematic point of view (and even bringing Ozymandias to justice) but I liked the BOOK SPOILER BELOW:
ending with Rorshach's journal discovery. The exposure of Ozy's deception to the public is a greater punishment for Ozy than death because his greatest character flaw was pride.
[Edited on November 14, 2008 at 11:26 AM. Reason : add]11/14/2008 11:15:52 AM |
federal All American 2638 Posts user info edit post |
trailer is alright. i'll be going in not expecting a direct adaptation for sure. 11/14/2008 11:24:06 AM |
RawWulf All American 9126 Posts user info edit post |
Loving Muse 11/14/2008 12:20:25 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
that trailer was pretty damn awesome.
the use of "watchmen" to refer to themselves is annoying. i'm just crossing my fingers that they don't deviate any further from the graphic novel. 11/14/2008 1:53:06 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that trailer was pretty damn awesome." |
so cant wait for this11/14/2008 5:20:47 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
best part of the bond film was seeing this trailer at the beginning. i. cannot. wait. 11/14/2008 11:06:22 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i didn't get a watchmen trailer at my bond showing.
wtf. 11/14/2008 11:26:05 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't get this or star trek 11/15/2008 1:48:39 AM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12521 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i didn't get a watchmen trailer at my bond showing.
wtf." |
just go to the link like 7 posts up, wtf.11/15/2008 3:05:27 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, I watched earlier today.
But it's still epic and awesome in the theater. Or the first trailer was anyway.
oops
[Edited on November 15, 2008 at 3:43 AM. Reason : jfsd]
11/15/2008 3:43:01 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yeah i had already watched it. i just wanted it at my bond showing. 11/15/2008 9:39:34 AM |
aaronian All American 3299 Posts user info edit post |
looks tight 11/15/2008 11:58:03 AM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo05w83DZXQ
[Old] trailer from comic con, but it this is the first time I've seen it, and I think it just recently hit the internet. Way more footage than is seen in the other trailers. 12/11/2008 11:33:34 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
12/11/2008 1:03:08 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I have a boner for this movie 12/11/2008 1:12:27 PM |
machinencsu All American 2200 Posts user info edit post |
i just read the graphic novel. I cant wait for this movie 12/11/2008 2:52:46 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
Finished the graphic novel. Will probably read again before the movie comes out.
The aforementioned changes are already turning me off. 12/15/2008 5:56:06 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
the dude playing The Comedian looks like RDJ
hell, i thought it was him for a bit 12/15/2008 5:58:24 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i did too when i first saw the trailer 12/15/2008 6:41:06 PM |
Bill Bixby All American 517 Posts user info edit post |
wow, that trailer from comic con really shows some great stuff...
Quote : | "Finished the graphic novel. Will probably read again before the movie comes out.
The aforementioned changes are already turning me off.
" |
I feel this way too...but after reading such a great story, I am still very excited about seeing this brought to live action and it looks like Snyder is really putting a quality film together. Visually it looks stunning, and the camera work (slowmotion parts, mid action zooms, etc) looks like its going to give it a very intense feeling. It should definitely end the way the book does in regards to Rorshach and his journal, but I would accept them nixing the squid for the viewers that didn't read the book first.12/16/2008 2:20:58 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
I just can't wrap my mind around an event of similar magnitude that wouldn't be just as unbelieveable for the uninitiated as the squid is. Ozy can't nuke the city, for instance; we'd think the Russians did it.
I guess that's why I'm typing on TWW instead of writing screenplays. 12/16/2008 2:25:31 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
I think the idea is to have Ozy "nuke" multiple cities around the world. You can see in one of the earlier trailers that the explosion is blue, which either mimics Manhattan, or actually is him. The idea is to make the world unite against him/it/God.
This can sort of work with the original ending because:
1. Manhattan is the only one who actually has any power to stop/rectify Ozy's plan when they all learn of it, but he agrees with him and doesn't do so.
2. The world has progressively gotten more and more frightened of Manhattan.
3. Manhattan is perfectly ok at this point with being exiled from Earth, so he's fine with playing the scapegoat. 12/16/2008 2:50:51 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
but if it's as simple as exiling manhattan and it's something he goes along with, does that keep all the nations of the world happy with one another for long enough for the plan to really matter? 12/16/2008 2:52:24 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
Rorschach's journal man, Rorschach's journal.
It all depends on what is done with the journal. The same question can be asked of the squid. Is one alien "attack" enough to keep the world united, or would it require a constant threat?
[Edited on December 16, 2008 at 3:07 PM. Reason : .] 12/16/2008 2:59:45 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
there's no guarantee that anyone would ever read it 12/16/2008 3:06:24 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, that's the point. Even if somebody reads it will they be able to decipher it. And more importantly, do we as the reader even want them to read it. 12/16/2008 3:09:11 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
i always thought the point of the squid being so bizarre was that everyone would be so confused and startled that they'd be on edge for years
first of all, giant killer squid
second of all, it fucking teleported into nyc
a bunch of blue explosions, get rid of manhattan, and we're back to business as usual 12/16/2008 3:11:23 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
but if manhattan was behind it, its not like anyone could stop him 12/16/2008 4:07:29 PM |
Woodfoot All American 60354 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.spike.com/video/watchmen-end-is-nigh/3077778
Quote : | "WATCHMEN
VIDEO
GAME" |
i'm not sure how i feel about it12/16/2008 8:56:15 PM |
ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
I know exactly how I feel about it. 12/16/2008 11:18:32 PM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
poor billy crudup. 12/17/2008 8:37:36 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/12/24/breaking-news-judge-rules-that-fox-owns-rights-to-watchmen/ 12/25/2008 11:12:16 AM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
12/25/2008 3:10:30 PM |
federal All American 2638 Posts user info edit post |
i've decided that this movie is the duke nukem forever of the film industry.
it is never coming out.
[Edited on December 25, 2008 at 8:10 PM. Reason : i'm aware dnf is supposed to be coming out, but i'll believe it when i see it] 12/25/2008 8:09:08 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
eh im sure it wont be delayed tooooo long. although i dont see this movie being very good anyway... i cant imagine its structure translating well to the screen.. 12/26/2008 2:51:10 AM |
mdalston All American 1028 Posts user info edit post |
all talk re: Rorschach's journal and Ozy being brought to justice-
It seems like everyone is assuming that in the comic, the messages of the journal get widely distributed or something ... I thought the point was that the comic's conclusion was completely open-ended, yeah?
I always liked the thought that, even should fat burger man choose and publish the journal, it'd be widely interpreted as the nonsensical ramblings of a washed-up ex-vigilante ...
[Edited on December 29, 2008 at 9:27 AM. Reason : a] 12/29/2008 9:27:31 AM |
Wadhead1 Duke is puke 20897 Posts user info edit post |
Trailer from Japan:
http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/?p=8175 1/6/2009 4:10:26 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
you bastard...i was just about to poast this.
has some new scenes that are not in the US trailer
1/7/2009 2:15:37 PM |
omicron101 All American 3662 Posts user info edit post |
cool trailer. i especially liked the JFK scene 1/7/2009 2:58:00 PM |
federal All American 2638 Posts user info edit post |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090108/media_nm/us_warner_watchmen
should be a ruling tomorrow 1/8/2009 4:44:24 PM |